Great: Another Socialist on the board...SouthernBelle82

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No it doesn't. If it's that than that's not socialism. I guess I'm going to have to start using pictionary on you all.
Except you ignore the reality to paint your fantasy. Seriously, I gave examples and have simply stated what is. So far all you have offered is insults. Then are shocked when others return them to the point that you complain of poor treatment.

Tolerance is a two-way track.
 
What? It's been in their Constitution for a long time. Before Chavez the last time I checked. Even if it came under Chavez it's still in their Constitution. We've had our Constitution changed a good few times such as with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and women's right to vote and all that. Now we're even debating about having same-sex marriage legalized in the Constitution. It is in their Constitution. Before anything gets added to their Constitution the people have to vote on it on the national referendum. Did you follow their last election at all? Apparently not.

Except the fact that they wrote the law because it wasn't in there I would agree with that.
 
What? It's been in their Constitution for a long time. Before Chavez the last time I checked. Even if it came under Chavez it's still in their Constitution. We've had our Constitution changed a good few times such as with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and women's right to vote and all that. Now we're even debating about having same-sex marriage legalized in the Constitution. It is in their Constitution. Before anything gets added to their Constitution the people have to vote on it on the national referendum. Did you follow their last election at all? Apparently not.
A referendum is offered by the government for them to vote on. Hence the need to offer it to a vote. Thankfully, that last one failed, hopefully it will on the second attempt as well.
 
I knew it was something "ruba" at the end. I didn't follow the story at all since there were other issues to follow and I had other things to do and I thought it was a personal matter that was none of my business. None the less just because it's twenty minutes away from Venezuela means shit. You're trying to put something there that isn't. Aruba or whatever does not equal Venezuela. Does Cuba now equal the United States? Apparently in your world. Hmm I guess Castro would like to know that....

For your lack of knowledge on Geography...she was not in 'Bermuda'...hint the Island name started with a "A" like in Aruba...just a twenty minute boat ride from Venezuela...the capital of the white sex slave trade...among other notorious trades!
 
If you'd bother to read their Constitution you'd know the answer. According to their Constitution before the president can use the power he has to get the okay from their National Assembly. So once they approve of it than it begins. Everything is either decided by the National Assembly or the people or the Supreme Court. The National Assembly has to give the go. I believe he's ruled by decree twice and each time got the authority from the National Assembly. They have to approve of everything first and just like with any election the majority vote rules. The last time he ruled by decree I believe he only had a 70% approval from the NA but it was still enough on his side to give him the authority.

Again, if it was in their constitution then I would kindly ask why they had to pass a bill that gave him that new power?

"Venezuela's National Assembly has given initial approval to a bill granting the president the power to bypass congress and rule by decree for 18 months."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6277379.stm
 
What a fucking stupid thread.

I can only assume it gets dumber as it goes on, since I won't be wasting the time to read it.
 
No I understand libertrianism quite well thank you. And it's just not my opinions. I'm going by other socialists too that you are apparently forgetting about. If you want I can get a shit load of other socialists to tell you the same thing. Would that work for you?

Clearly you believe wholeheartedly in your opinion as "fact", but it doesn't change that you know little of my opinion on things. You appear to be equally ignorant of libertarianism as you claim I am to socialism.
 
Well apparently not since you felt the need to come in and post your opinion. And don't bitch at me. I didn't start it. Some moron started it trying to smear me because I'm a *gasps* socialist. OH THE HORROR!!!

What a fucking stupid thread.

I can only assume it gets dumber as it goes on, since I won't be wasting the time to read it.
 
Gee so point out to me where I started a thread on other people smearing them for their political beliefs. Anywhere? Or where have I called someone a troll the first time opening my mouth here? Anywhere? Have I done that? Hmm. I don't think so. And if someone calls me an idiot I'm not afraid to shout back. Apparently this place has no such thing as moderators so I have to do my own defending and I'm not afraid of it. And hun if someone is treating me like shit and I defend myself preach your tolerance shit to them as well. So far? Gee go back to my intro thread. Go back to this thread a lone in the very beginning. Talk about painting fantasies. What do you think this whole fucking thread has been about? Me defending myself on my own.

Except you ignore the reality to paint your fantasy. Seriously, I gave examples and have simply stated what is. So far all you have offered is insults. Then are shocked when others return them to the point that you complain of poor treatment.

Tolerance is a two-way track.
 
Time for a song dedication.......

I knew it was something "ruba" at the end. I didn't follow the story at all since there were other issues to follow and I had other things to do and I thought it was a personal matter that was none of my business. None the less just because it's twenty minutes away from Venezuela means shit. You're trying to put something there that isn't. Aruba or whatever does not equal Venezuela. Does Cuba now equal the United States? Apparently in your world. Hmm I guess Castro would like to know that....

:rolleyes: sing the song SouthernBelle: www.stupidity.org/sound/89
 
No I understand libertrianism quite well thank you. And it's just not my opinions. I'm going by other socialists too that you are apparently forgetting about. If you want I can get a shit load of other socialists to tell you the same thing. Would that work for you?
So, you are giving me my opinion (incorrectly) based on what other soclialists have told you? You are making no sense here.
 
You aren't a citizen of Venezuela are you? So you get no fucking say in what they do. If it passes than it passes and the people spoke. If it doesn't than the people spoke as well. Get over it.

A referendum is offered by the government for them to vote on. Hence the need to offer it to a vote. Thankfully, that last one failed, hopefully it will on the second attempt as well.
 
You aren't a citizen of Venezuela are you? So you get no fucking say in what they do. If it passes than it passes and the people spoke. If it doesn't than the people spoke as well. Get over it.
I am "over it". I am thankful that those who voted against it will not be forced into something that they do not wish for.

I don't live there and do not try to tell them how to vote. You really need to relax, I am not insulting you personally by pointing out what happened elsewhere. I hope for their own personal freedoms, I watch, I don't interfere.

As I said before I work towards my own form of utopia as you do towards yours. I do see how often it ends up corrupted.

One thing that is cool... I get to watch the Lakota nation to see how my form works out in today's world.
 
Apparently this place has no such thing as moderators so I have to do my own defending and I'm not afraid of it. .


It's lite moderation. You can't cry "i'm a victim" or call every criticism "an attack" and expect some deus ex machina to come solve all your problems.
 
LOL.............

I am "over it". I am thankful that those who voted against it will not be forced into something that they do not wish for.

I don't live there and do not try to tell them how to vote. You really need to relax, I am not insulting you personally by pointing out what happened elsewhere. I hope for their own personal freedoms, I watch, I don't interfere.

As I said before I work towards my own form of utopia as you do towards yours. I do see how often it ends up corrupted.

One thing that is cool... I get to watch the Lakota nation to see how my form works out in today's world.



You also got your yearly request for donations...I get them every year about Christmas time...send em'a few bucks for Turkey and trimmings!
 
No. I'm correcting your false opinion on socialism. You're wrong and I'm telling you are. Apparently one socialists word isn't enough for you. Here's other socialists who say the same things I do.

http://www.worldsocialism.org/articles/what_is_socialism.php

http://www.cpusa.org/article/static/13/

http://www.slp.org/what_is.htm

http://www.peacefaq.com/socialism.html

http://www.internationalsocialist.org/caseforsocialism.html

That should get you started.

So, you are giving me my opinion (incorrectly) based on what other soclialists have told you? You are making no sense here.
 
Why? Because you don't agree with it? Oh well. It's not your say. Personally the only thing I agreed with is taking away term limits because they are undemocratic. And I get to watch Venezuela. Funny how people are happily forget them. And there's nothing for you to be thankful for since you didn't get to vote. If they passed it than oh well. That's the whole point of socialism is the people deciding.

I am "over it". I am thankful that those who voted against it will not be forced into something that they do not wish for.

I don't live there and do not try to tell them how to vote. You really need to relax, I am not insulting you personally by pointing out what happened elsewhere. I hope for their own personal freedoms, I watch, I don't interfere.

As I said before I work towards my own form of utopia as you do towards yours. I do see how often it ends up corrupted.

One thing that is cool... I get to watch the Lakota nation to see how my form works out in today's world.
 
So I guess it's normal that you all start threads on new people and smear them for their political beliefs then right? Or am I just special because I'm a socialist? That is an attack and it's pathetic.

It's lite moderation. You can't cry "i'm a victim" or call every criticism "an attack" and expect some deus ex machina to come solve all your problems.
 
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