GREEN KILLERS: CONGO’S MINERS DYING TO FEED WORLD’S HUNGER FOR ELECTRIC CARS

Cobalt is not used in ICEs.

Only the ones with Steel belted radial tires or airbags. That covers a lot of ICEs. This is where you fail badly. I provided you with information from the people making the tires and airbags, and you simply say they do not use cobalt. They have factories making that crap. You should inform them so they do not make that mistake again. Sellers of cobalt. https://invezz.com/commodities/metals/cobalt/ Can you read its uses?
 
Only the ones with Steel belted radial tires or airbags. That covers a lot of ICEs. This is where you fail badly. I provided you with information from the people making the tires and airbags, and you simply say they do not use cobalt. They have factories making that crap. You should inform them so they do not make that mistake again. Sellers of cobalt. https://invezz.com/commodities/metals/cobalt/ Can you read its uses?

Steel belted tires have no cobalt in them. Airbags have no cobalt in them. False authority fallacy.
 
I provided several sources in this debate. I win. You are a drive-by loser. If you really wanted to know the truth, you could have looked it up. The facts are on the net for all to see.

Cliche fallacy. Assumption of victory fallacy. You have presented no facts. Learn what 'fact' means.
 
Cliche fallacy. Assumption of victory fallacy. You have presented no facts. Learn what 'fact' means.

You are a redundant stubborn pedantic fool. You learn what facts are. I gave you several sources showing tires and airbags use cobalt. They do. That is a fact. So is it, that airbags use cobalt in their coatings and tires use it in their gripping to the wheel. That is many millions of products in autos around the world using cobalt.
 
Once we do what we must to clean up the world, will it then be worth living in it?

I think it's absurd to say that the progress of humanity has not severely damaged the planet.
It very clearly has.
But once humanity achieved dominance in the Animal Kingdom, wasn't this inevitable?

It's probably part of the Earth's destined cycle.
Humans begin at some point to dominate until they dirty the planet sufficiently to exterminate themselves.
Then slowly, the planet begins to recover.

Meanwhile, is it even possible for humans evolved to the state where we are now
to have any kind of tolerable life living in a more environmentally preserving way
than the way we live now? Maximizing one's comfort and convenience is genetically programmed into modern humans
and we're going to live in a way that reflects that regardless of what end result that will bring.

The liberals are definitely right that we're destroying the inhabitability of the planet,
but isn't it presumptuous to believe that we have a choice?

Could you live like a devout preservationist, and even if you could, would you want to?
 
You are a redundant stubborn pedantic fool. You learn what facts are.
Inversion fallacy.
I gave you several sources showing tires and airbags use cobalt. They do.
False authority fallacies. Tires and airbags do not contain cobalt.
That is a fact.
Not a fact. A false authority. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).
So is it, that airbags use cobalt in their coatings
Airbags do not contain cobalt. The bags are coated with talcum to lubricate them when they deploy. The explosive charge is an azide compound, and the case is aluminum and plastic. The sensing system is a contact closure and a weight on a spring (a bit like one of the old 'tilt' sensors on a pinball machine!). Usually they are wired so that the bumper contact closure AND the accelerometer contact closure must occur to fire the front airbag.
and tires use it in their gripping to the wheel.
No cobalt in tires. Tires are made of rubber and steel. The bead is straight vulcanized rubber. It is the bead and air pressure that grips the wheel.
That is many millions of products in autos around the world using cobalt.
Internal combustion engines contain no cobalt and neither do their induction or exhaust systems.
 
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Once we do what we must to clean up the world, will it then be worth living in it?

I think it's absurd to say that the progress of humanity has not severely damaged the planet.
It very clearly has.
But once humanity achieved dominance in the Animal Kingdom, wasn't this inevitable?

It's probably part of the Earth's destined cycle.
Humans begin at some point to dominate until they dirty the planet sufficiently to exterminate themselves.
Then slowly, the planet begins to recover.

Meanwhile, is it even possible for humans evolved to the state where we are now
to have any kind of tolerable life living in a more environmentally preserving way
than the way we live now? Maximizing one's comfort and convenience is genetically programmed into modern humans
and we're going to live in a way that reflects that regardless of what end result that will bring.

The liberals are definitely right that we're destroying the inhabitability of the planet,
but isn't it presumptuous to believe that we have a choice?

Could you live like a devout preservationist, and even if you could, would you want to?

Define The Damage. Describe why you consider it The Damage.
 
Define The Damage. Describe why you consider it The Damage.

I refer to all the things cited by credible environmental scientists, some of the main ones being the melting of the polar ice caps, the rising overall temperature of the planet, the demonstrable climate change, the damaged ozone layer,
etc. I believe the scientists, not the pro-business conservatives and politicians in their pockets with whom I tend to disagree on so many other, unrelated issues as well.

By the same token, with most of my life in the rear view mirror, I'm not happy about jarring life-style changes either.
Like everybody else, I didn't ask to be put here, so I should be able to live as comfortably as I can.

I don't think two or three billion people could damage the world that much. but we overpopulated to the point where we obviously can and have.
It's entirely possible that nature preordained that we'd fuck ourselves into oblivion, Again, we obviously have.
 
I refer to all the things cited by credible environmental scientists,
...so...your priests.

Science is not priests.
some of the main ones being the melting of the polar ice caps,
They aren't melting.
the rising overall temperature of the planet,
It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
the demonstrable climate change,
Climate has no value that can change. Climate cannot change.
the damaged ozone layer,
It isn't damaged and never was.
etc. I believe the scientists,
...the priests...
not the pro-business conservatives and politicians in their pockets with whom I tend to disagree on so many other, unrelated issues as well.
...anyone that disagrees with your religion...
By the same token, with most of my life in the rear view mirror, I'm not happy about jarring life-style changes either.
Like everybody else, I didn't ask to be put here, so I should be able to live as comfortably as I can.
You're a selfish bastard, ain't ya?
I don't think two or three billion people could damage the world that much. but we overpopulated to the point where we obviously can and have.
It's entirely possible that nature preordained that we'd fuck ourselves into oblivion, Again, we obviously have.
Then do the world a favor. Kill yourself. You can be the first to actually reduce the population.
 
...so...your priests.

Science is not priests.

They aren't melting.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

Climate has no value that can change. Climate cannot change.

It isn't damaged and never was.

...the priests...

...anyone that disagrees with your religion...

You're a selfish bastard, ain't ya?

Then do the world a favor. Kill yourself. You can be the first to actually reduce the population.

Here's a picture of Into_the_Night right before he posts about science!
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...so...your priests.

Science is not priests.

They aren't melting.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

Climate has no value that can change. Climate cannot change.

It isn't damaged and never was.

...the priests...

...anyone that disagrees with your religion...

You're a selfish bastard, ain't ya?

Then do the world a favor. Kill yourself. You can be the first to actually reduce the population.

Stick to autorerotic asphyxiation, Milquetoast, and leave the grownup subsects to grown ups.
The actual fucking bird avatar has a bigger brain than that tiny knob on top of your spaghetti-flop spinal cord.
 
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