Have We Entered The Next Dark Ages?

Hello Phantasmal,

That’s so Trump, he is only worried about COVID because it’s ruining his beautiful presidency.

Well, I wasn't thinking of him but now that you mention it, it sounds exactly like him.

And there you have it.

That confirms it.

We are living with a joke of a president.
 
As the ad says "Ball Is Life". Sports is an analogy for everything so I'll offer one here.

In the late '90's USC football enter the dark ages. It was called the Paul Hackett era. Yet from that came the G.O.A.T. Pete Carroll and a new Trojan dynasty was built. We are currently in another dark age known as the Clay Helton era. We had a chance to exit it by hiring Urban Meyer however we chose not too. However Helton too shall pass.

I offer that because it's always great talking about 'SC. So while relevant on a certain level on a global level its not.

As far as life goes it's an amazing time to be alive and while there are always challenges in the world there are poor people living better today than rich people did a century ago. Hundreds of millions of people around the globe have been brought out of abject poverty. The advancements made across the planet are amazing. And yes, we can thank the opening of markets and capitalism for that.

I'm sorry, this idea that socialism is going to sweep the globe and human nature is going to somehow instantly change and we will be rid of desires, ambition and greed and we'll just all be happy is a load of crap.
 
Good morning cawacko,

As the ad says "Ball Is Life". Sports is an analogy for everything so I'll offer one here.

In the late '90's USC football enter the dark ages. It was called the Paul Hackett era. Yet from that came the G.O.A.T. Pete Carroll and a new Trojan dynasty was built. We are currently in another dark age known as the Clay Helton era. We had a chance to exit it by hiring Urban Meyer however we chose not too. However Helton too shall pass.

I offer that because it's always great talking about 'SC. So while relevant on a certain level on a global level its not.

As far as life goes it's an amazing time to be alive and while there are always challenges in the world there are poor people living better today than rich people did a century ago. Hundreds of millions of people around the globe have been brought out of abject poverty. The advancements made across the planet are amazing. And yes, we can thank the opening of markets and capitalism for that.

I'm sorry, this idea that socialism is going to sweep the globe and human nature is going to somehow instantly change and we will be rid of desires, ambition and greed and we'll just all be happy is a load of crap.

Capitalism doesn't help poor people. It oppresses them. The strides made to bring people out of poverty have not been done for profit. Most of that effort has been from non-profits.
 
Good morning cawacko,



Capitalism doesn't help poor people. It oppresses them. The strides made to bring people out of poverty have not been done for profit. Most of that effort has been from non-profits.

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For starters take China where hundreds of millions have been brought out of our poverty. You think they went from communism to a bunch of non-profits running the country and that's how they achieved what they have?
 
It should be noted that, while this can be a very depressing thread, there is also cause for happiness, and warm feelings of content.

These larger problems will not affect us personally today.

We have plenty of time to work out solutions.

For most of us with the ability to spend time contemplating these very big issues on the internet, that means we have our basics covered, we are safe, have everything we need for today, and we are in generally comfortable settings. We have loved ones in our lives, we have art, music, books, entertainment, nature and sharing to rejuvenate our psyche. Some of us feel comfort in the belief that a deity is looking over us, and will care for us in an afterlife. Others of us simply have faith in humanity to generally do the right thing, and the knowledge that if that were not true, the world would have melted down a long long time ago. But that has not happened. throughout history, no matter what challenge has been thrown at humans, we have not only faced up to it and endured, but we have learned lessons from these experiences and improved our condition.

There is more good in humanity than bad.

So we can rejoice in that, and feel confident that no matter what happens, we will find our way forward to a brighter future. We may face setbacks along the way, but as the old saying goes, whatever does not kill us makes us stronger.

The best advice for individuals is to stay positive and aware of your surroundings, and keep your wits about you. It is the nature of the world we live in and our human collective that we go through good periods and bad. And if we are smart, we learn from the bad and that just makes the good that much better!

you pro censorship "liberals" are the heart of darkness. plus, you're a moron . you're not deep or thoughtful.
 
Technological advances and innovation of the present were fantasy dreams 4 , 5 decades ago.No major wars since Vietnam which had less casualtes than the Korean War, nothing compared to even battles in WW I.

Iraq and , Afghanistan did not happen? Waging war has changed. We kill from a distance.
 
Hello cawacko,

For starters take China where hundreds of millions have been brought out of our poverty. You think they went from communism to a bunch of non-profits running the country and that's how they achieved what they have?

I see you are still under the assumption that there is only one other choice besides pure capitalism.

If only the world were so simple.

I agree that capitalism has lifted many many people up to a higher lifestyle. No doubt of it. But it is far more complex than either/or.

Some manage to start with nothing and work their way up. That used to be more common in the USA, but in recent decades upward mobility has been diminished.

Ruthless capitalists have no morals. Much of capitalism prevents people from rising above poverty. There are as many ways that happens as there are miles of highway in the USA.

Here is one way: Say an individual finishes school, gets a job and an apartment. And they need a car to get to work, but they cannot afford a new one, so they go to a 'Buy Here Pay Here' car lot. That nefarious dealer 'sells' them a car with a small down payment and regular monthly or even weekly payments. The car is older, has high mileage, but runs OK and the buyer likes it so a deal is struck. The car is also equipped by the dealer with a GPS location device in case the buyer defaults on the payments. The car payments with interest on the car loan are steep. The worker, who is unable to save much after rent and car payments keeps making the payments until they get sick and have to miss work for a week. That puts this person short a paycheck, and he is unable to make the car payment that week.

The dealer sends the repo guy to repo the car. The worker recovers from the illness but is unable to get back to work on time and loses their job.

Now the worker goes to try to get another job and has to take a more undesirable job because they have no good reference and no car. He gets the new job but needs another car to get to the job. So he goes to another 'Buy Here Pay Here' car lot. The cycle begins all over again. The worker is unable to save enough to buy a car for cash, never gets a car paid for, and is stuck for life making car payments.

'Buy Here Pay Here' car lot dealer takes that first car, cleans it up and puts it back on the lot to get another buyer on the hook for more payments. The new buyer also defaults after several months. Th car is repossessed again and again. The ['Buy Here Pay Here' car lot dealer actually sells the same care multiple times thus generating far more profit than the car is even worth. The buyers are stuck in an endless loop and can never save enough to own a car outright, much less save for a down payment on a house. And by the way, after a few defaults on car loans, their credit rating is bad, so no bank would ever loan to them even if they could save enough for a home down payment.

Individuals like this are never able to get beyond car payments and rent, unable to own a home, which is the primary financial instrument for building wealth for most upper class Americans.

Thus, ruthless capitalism has ensured that impoverished people remain impoverished.

And that is just ONE way capitalism oppresses the vulnerable. And that is here in the USA. It is worse in other more impoverished nations. As I said, there are many many ways. Don't make me tell the story of how it is for migrant farm workers.
 
you're protesting too much, proving it's true.

What "lies" are there about overpopulation? We are overpopulated. And the worst part is, India and China are going to have BILLIONS consuming the way Americans do. Then we're fucked. That's not a theory, that's fact.
 
What "lies" are there about overpopulation? We are overpopulated. And the worst part is, India and China are going to have BILLIONS consuming the way Americans do. Then we're fucked. That's not a theory, that's fact.

no. we're just over crowded in certain areas, and there is resource distribution issue, because of tyranny, greed and hate.

overpopulation is a fictitious mentality to justify human horribleness to other humans.

overpopulation is a nazi idea.
 
the government should defy their corporate overlords and return to important values, and stop pushing the "get rich or die trying" rap video mentality.
 
no. we're just over crowded in certain areas, and there is resource distribution issue, because of tyranny, greed and hate.

overpopulation is a fictitious mentality to justify human horribleness to other humans.

overpopulation is a nazi idea.

No, murdering people based on their ethnic identity is Nazi idea -- it's also a new conservative platform, with their indifference to third-world suffering in Latin America that we've caused, creating refugee camps and detainment of immigrants that is something akin in America to the Jewish Ghettos of the 1930s In Europe.

Resource depletion from overepopulation is a straight-up fact. The manner in which you immediately harken back to Nazis merely because someone mentions it says a lot more about you than it does about the science.

I believe we should have wholesale, free birth control worldwide, distributed in 3rd-world countries particularly. Safe access to abortion should also be available and affordable worldwide. The problem is we've exported catholicism and shitty christianity all over the globe that preaches against birth control and women's empowerment.
 
It must be really depressing to be you.

Ignorance is the bliss of always believing anything else is possible than life just timing reproductions apart now as going on here in plain sight, if one were honest about themself as actively proportioned as one of a kind.

Exactly when was it humanity came out of the first one? 101 in 2020 and humanity's 20/20 hindsight still hasn't solved why life doesn't actually exceed being spaced apart now, even wth clocks and calendar facts, life just doesn't live by statistical average studies like societies govern people cradle to grave promising better days tomorrow for total loyalty from now on..
 
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Hello cawacko,



I see you are still under the assumption that there is only one other choice besides pure capitalism.

If only the world were so simple.

I agree that capitalism has lifted many many people up to a higher lifestyle. No doubt of it. But it is far more complex than either/or.

Some manage to start with nothing and work their way up. That used to be more common in the USA, but in recent decades upward mobility has been diminished.

Ruthless capitalists have no morals. Much of capitalism prevents people from rising above poverty. There are as many ways that happens as there are miles of highway in the USA.

Here is one way: Say an individual finishes school, gets a job and an apartment. And they need a car to get to work, but they cannot afford a new one, so they go to a 'Buy Here Pay Here' car lot. That nefarious dealer 'sells' them a car with a small down payment and regular monthly or even weekly payments. The car is older, has high mileage, but runs OK and the buyer likes it so a deal is struck. The car is also equipped by the dealer with a GPS location device in case the buyer defaults on the payments. The car payments with interest on the car loan are steep. The worker, who is unable to save much after rent and car payments keeps making the payments until they get sick and have to miss work for a week. That puts this person short a paycheck, and he is unable to make the car payment that week.

The dealer sends the repo guy to repo the car. The worker recovers from the illness but is unable to get back to work on time and loses their job.

Now the worker goes to try to get another job and has to take a more undesirable job because they have no good reference and no car. He gets the new job but needs another car to get to the job. So he goes to another 'Buy Here Pay Here' car lot. The cycle begins all over again. The worker is unable to save enough to buy a car for cash, never gets a car paid for, and is stuck for life making car payments.

'Buy Here Pay Here' car lot dealer takes that first car, cleans it up and puts it back on the lot to get another buyer on the hook for more payments. The new buyer also defaults after several months. Th car is repossessed again and again. The ['Buy Here Pay Here' car lot dealer actually sells the same care multiple times thus generating far more profit than the car is even worth. The buyers are stuck in an endless loop and can never save enough to own a car outright, much less save for a down payment on a house. And by the way, after a few defaults on car loans, their credit rating is bad, so no bank would ever loan to them even if they could save enough for a home down payment.

Individuals like this are never able to get beyond car payments and rent, unable to own a home, which is the primary financial instrument for building wealth for most upper class Americans.

Thus, ruthless capitalism has ensured that impoverished people remain impoverished.

And that is just ONE way capitalism oppresses the vulnerable. And that is here in the USA. It is worse in other more impoverished nations. As I said, there are many many ways. Don't make me tell the story of how it is for migrant farm workers.

You want to talk oppression? China murdered tens of millions of its citizens, starved to death millions more under some supposed egalitarian form of communism. China was a third world country. They still have a fvcked up form of government today, and I'm not suggesting people should follow their form of state capitalism, but what they did do was open up their markets, embraced property rights etc. This wasn't some non-profit movement.
 
Ignorance is the bliss of always believing anything else is possible than life just timing reproductions apart now as going on here in plain sight, if one were honest about themself as actively proportioned as one of a kind.

I hope you understand your posts. Nobody else does.
 
No, murdering people based on their ethnic identity is Nazi idea -- it's also a new conservative platform, with their indifference to third-world suffering in Latin America that we've caused, creating refugee camps and detainment of immigrants that is something akin in America to the Jewish Ghettos of the 1930s In Europe.

Resource depletion from overepopulation is a straight-up fact. The manner in which you immediately harken back to Nazis merely because someone mentions it says a lot more about you than it does about the science.

I believe we should have wholesale, free birth control worldwide, distributed in 3rd-world countries particularly. Safe access to abortion should also be available and affordable worldwide. The problem is we've exported catholicism and shitty christianity all over the globe that preaches against birth control and women's empowerment.

nazis believed in eugenics, population reduction, within all races too, even their own.

you're literally a nazi brainwash victim.
 
You want to talk oppression? China murdered tens of millions of its citizens, starved to death millions more under some supposed egalitarian form of communism. China was a third world country. They still have a fvcked up form of government today, and I'm not suggesting people should follow their form of state capitalism, but what they did do was open up their markets, embraced property rights etc. This wasn't some non-profit movement.

theyve just become more corporate. they're not more free. they're still organ harvesting uigars, falun gong, dissidents, whoever...
 
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