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Hear Chris Hedges!
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Distinction without a difference. Own what you say.
montgomery
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Great quote by Hedges!
But unfortunately you're very angry at something and that makes you more a hindrance on this thread than an asset. Can you back off a bit on that? You certainly do get the message Hedges is promoting!
It's just that it's going to be hard for people of like mind to be able to accept you as an ally. Think about it if you have now decided to stick around on this thread.
Adolf_Twitler
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Not!
The White House is way over their travel budget! Look for that to be at the top of the list of House Ethics and Budget Investigations coming up
montgomery
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To say that Trump is Hitler would be overstating it. It's the very obvious similarities that are of interest and how Trump has obviously captured your heart and mind. Your posting history makes it clear right away that you're a hater, a bigot, and a racist.
Stick around! We need your type to illustrate how just how many Americans have bought into Trump's methods! I think that there could be enough like you to keep Trump in business with less than a majority by far. In fact, the danger is in the fact that keeping even 20% of Americans believing in fascist methods of Trump could win an election in 2020. Perhaps 15% will oppose his evil and the other 65% will sit on their hands and watch the US become the pariah state against the rest of the world.
Or goodbye! Whatever?
montgomery
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That doesn't really matter to Americans and Trump knows it. You need to know your enemy better. Trump is catering to low inteligence people who are hurting and need some minority group to blame. This becomes much more interesting when Trump promotes violence against those minorities. It could happen tomorrow but I suspect that it won't be any longer than a few months.
Anyway, glad to have you on board this thread. Your heart's obviously in the right place.
DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen destined to leave, but timing unclear, sources say
CBS News· 2 hours ago
Nielsen has fallen in and out of favor with Mr. Trump, and she may fall victim to a sense of White ..
Any move involving Nielsen could set off something of a White House chain reaction, and that may influence what does or does not happen, and the timing therein.
Nielsen has fallen in and out of favor with Mr. Trump, and she may fall victim to a sense of White House frustration with its stalled immigration agenda, even though Nielsen has been a vocal advocate for Trump policies. If Mr. Trump were to ditch Nielsen, he will have removed his two fiercest Cabinet immigration policy advocates — former Attorney General Jeff Sessions and his DHS secretary.
Mr. Trump's frustrations do not always result in firings or resignations. Nielsen's status is influenced by another factor: the president's satisfaction, or lack thereof, with Chief of Staff John Kelly. Nielsen was Kelly's chief of staff at DHS and followed him to the White House. Kelly has made it clear he would oppose the firing of Nielsen or her forced resignation.
If the president were to dump Nielsen, many sources familiar with the White House see an inevitable clash between Mr. Trump and Kelly — one that could result in Kelly's departure. Interpretations of the quality of Mr. Trump's relationship with Kelly vary.
Mr. Trump has been advised to bring on a chief of staff better suited to and familiar with the rough and tumble of a re-election campaign. He is weighing that advice, sources said, more seriously than before the midterms.
According to four sources, Nick Ayers, currently chief of staff to Vice President Mike Pence, is the leading contender to replace Kelly — if Kelly departs.
Ayers is considered one of the best political strategists in Trump world, and advocates say he could provide crucial help to the White House, as previous chiefs of staff have, in meshing with and reinforcing the re-election campaign messaging, strategy, presidential travel and fundraising. Ayers was important to Pence's arrival on the Trump ticket, worked at a high level on the transition and is considered deeply loyal to the Trump agenda.
Others mentioned as possible successors to Kelly include Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and current House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy.
Mulvaney's name has surfaced before as chief of staff and in the past he has expressed interest. Those close to Mulvaney said he has cooled to the idea. But he remains a contender and may have adopted the strategy of seeming less interested to improve his chances.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dhs-se...ined-to-leave-but-timing-unclear-sources-say/
CBS News· 2 hours ago
Nielsen has fallen in and out of favor with Mr. Trump, and she may fall victim to a sense of White ..
Any move involving Nielsen could set off something of a White House chain reaction, and that may influence what does or does not happen, and the timing therein.
Nielsen has fallen in and out of favor with Mr. Trump, and she may fall victim to a sense of White House frustration with its stalled immigration agenda, even though Nielsen has been a vocal advocate for Trump policies. If Mr. Trump were to ditch Nielsen, he will have removed his two fiercest Cabinet immigration policy advocates — former Attorney General Jeff Sessions and his DHS secretary.
Mr. Trump's frustrations do not always result in firings or resignations. Nielsen's status is influenced by another factor: the president's satisfaction, or lack thereof, with Chief of Staff John Kelly. Nielsen was Kelly's chief of staff at DHS and followed him to the White House. Kelly has made it clear he would oppose the firing of Nielsen or her forced resignation.
If the president were to dump Nielsen, many sources familiar with the White House see an inevitable clash between Mr. Trump and Kelly — one that could result in Kelly's departure. Interpretations of the quality of Mr. Trump's relationship with Kelly vary.
Mr. Trump has been advised to bring on a chief of staff better suited to and familiar with the rough and tumble of a re-election campaign. He is weighing that advice, sources said, more seriously than before the midterms.
According to four sources, Nick Ayers, currently chief of staff to Vice President Mike Pence, is the leading contender to replace Kelly — if Kelly departs.
Ayers is considered one of the best political strategists in Trump world, and advocates say he could provide crucial help to the White House, as previous chiefs of staff have, in meshing with and reinforcing the re-election campaign messaging, strategy, presidential travel and fundraising. Ayers was important to Pence's arrival on the Trump ticket, worked at a high level on the transition and is considered deeply loyal to the Trump agenda.
Others mentioned as possible successors to Kelly include Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and current House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy.
Mulvaney's name has surfaced before as chief of staff and in the past he has expressed interest. Those close to Mulvaney said he has cooled to the idea. But he remains a contender and may have adopted the strategy of seeming less interested to improve his chances.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dhs-se...ined-to-leave-but-timing-unclear-sources-say/
montgomery
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It's definitely a shaky proposition for Trump in so many ways. The Republican congress is a danger of jumping off Trump's ship and only need to be able to do it safely. They can now with two years to insulate them from harm. And they have to be considering that it's a wise gamble to do it now rather than later.
Plus, there are many indications that the Mueller investigation is going to uncover one hell of a lot of illegal activity by Trump and his cohorts. Mueller will likely have enough to bring charges against Donald junior and Trump senior won't be able to tolerate that. He could move to put Matthews in as attorney general out of sheer anger and a suspicion he could get away with it.
That would surely set things off!
Another possibility is that the true feelings of the Repubs on being the war party, will come to the surface concerning the need of them to be on the side of hating Russia and Putin. It's not the exclusive property of the Democrats of course. The only R support of Trump on his cozying up to Russia is out of necessity to protect Trump from the collusion charges that are coming. The R's feel no loyalty or need for peaceful relations with Russia in the least and they're biting the bullet to hold up the facade for Trump's benefit.
Lot's of good reasons to think that Trump is on very shaky grounds now. And especially the 2020 election that could turn into a blue wave rout of the R's as never seen before.
In any case, I'm thinking the Kennedy solution to the problem is the most likely of all.
Althea
Althea told me...........
Hogwash. Hatred is a learned behavior
Money manages the American mind especially on the right and libertarian right, but the liberal side needs money too and as long as that is the case the biggest money wins. Hedges is right but a video aint gonna change anyone who is ideologically glued to their fantasies. But listen and pay attention. Readers check these books out.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2751831-invisible-hands
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27833494-dark-money
The Robert's court greatest achievement so far, making money a person, adding Kavanaugh may make money the judiciary.
"Few American institutions have inflicted greater suffering on ordinary people than the Supreme Court of the United States. Since its inception, the justices of the Supreme Court have shaped a nation where children toiled in coal mines, where Americans could be forced into camps because of their race, and where a woman could be sterilized against her will by state law." https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22715946-injustices
"Historian Phillips-Fein traces the hidden history of the Reagan revolution to a coterie of business executives, including General Electric official and Reagan mentor Lemuel Boulware, who saw labor unions, government regulation, high taxes and welfare spending as dire threats to their profits and power. From the 1930s onward, the author argues, they provided the money, organization and fervor for a decades-long war against New Deal liberalism—funding campaigns, think tanks, magazines and lobbying groups, and indoctrinating employees in the virtues of unfettered capitalism." see link above
"A surefire politics of change would necessarily involve getting people in the middle — from the 30th to the 70th percentile — to see their own economic self-interest. If they vote in their own self-interest, they’ll elect people who are likely to be more aligned with people with lower incomes as well as with them. As long as people in the middle identify more with people on the top than with those on the bottom, we are doomed. The obscene amount of money flowing into the electoral process makes things harder yet." Peter Edelman http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/opinion/sunday/why-cant-we-end-poverty-in-america.html
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2751831-invisible-hands
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27833494-dark-money
The Robert's court greatest achievement so far, making money a person, adding Kavanaugh may make money the judiciary.
"Few American institutions have inflicted greater suffering on ordinary people than the Supreme Court of the United States. Since its inception, the justices of the Supreme Court have shaped a nation where children toiled in coal mines, where Americans could be forced into camps because of their race, and where a woman could be sterilized against her will by state law." https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22715946-injustices
"Historian Phillips-Fein traces the hidden history of the Reagan revolution to a coterie of business executives, including General Electric official and Reagan mentor Lemuel Boulware, who saw labor unions, government regulation, high taxes and welfare spending as dire threats to their profits and power. From the 1930s onward, the author argues, they provided the money, organization and fervor for a decades-long war against New Deal liberalism—funding campaigns, think tanks, magazines and lobbying groups, and indoctrinating employees in the virtues of unfettered capitalism." see link above
"A surefire politics of change would necessarily involve getting people in the middle — from the 30th to the 70th percentile — to see their own economic self-interest. If they vote in their own self-interest, they’ll elect people who are likely to be more aligned with people with lower incomes as well as with them. As long as people in the middle identify more with people on the top than with those on the bottom, we are doomed. The obscene amount of money flowing into the electoral process makes things harder yet." Peter Edelman http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/opinion/sunday/why-cant-we-end-poverty-in-america.html
Adolf_Twitler
Verified User
I was only saying that because some of the Democrat House members have been talking about opening up the investigations on the White House spending.
White House spending budgets are established in Congress and signed by the president.
The White house has quadrupled their spending over the allotted annual budget in 2018! And someone will be having to pay the government back for every penny of it.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello montgomery,
I didn't take the time to watch. I'm familiar with Hedges. He is a voice of logic in this illogical nation.
There is a good entry on his political views on wiki.
A good thing to know about Hedges is that everything he says is fact-based, verifiable. He deals with real news. Hedges is credible.
I didn't take the time to watch. I'm familiar with Hedges. He is a voice of logic in this illogical nation.
There is a good entry on his political views on wiki.
A good thing to know about Hedges is that everything he says is fact-based, verifiable. He deals with real news. Hedges is credible.
evince
Truthmatters
he is wrong
this country would be dead already if it were not for the people in the Democratic party
condemning both is what the republicans do every time they tear things up
they cant protect their horrible actions so they try and make the Democratic party share their blame
evince
Truthmatters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hedges
Christopher Lynn Hedges (born September 18, 1956) is an American journalist, Presbyterian minister, and visiting Princeton University lecturer. His books include War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning (2002), a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award for Nonfiction; Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle (2009); Death of the Liberal Class (2010); Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt (2012), written with cartoonist Joe Sacco, which was a New York Times best-seller; Wages of Rebellion: The Moral Imperative of Revolt (2015); and his most recent America: The Farewell Tour (2018).
Hedges is a columnist for the progressive news and commentary website Truthdig.[1][2] He is also a host for the television program On Contact on RT.[3] Hedges spent nearly two decades as a foreign correspondent in Central America, West Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and the Balkans. He has reported from more than fifty countries, and has worked for The Christian Science Monitor, NPR, Dallas Morning News, and The New York Times,[4] where he was a foreign correspondent for fifteen years (1990–2005).
why does he take money from Putin?
Christopher Lynn Hedges (born September 18, 1956) is an American journalist, Presbyterian minister, and visiting Princeton University lecturer. His books include War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning (2002), a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award for Nonfiction; Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle (2009); Death of the Liberal Class (2010); Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt (2012), written with cartoonist Joe Sacco, which was a New York Times best-seller; Wages of Rebellion: The Moral Imperative of Revolt (2015); and his most recent America: The Farewell Tour (2018).
Hedges is a columnist for the progressive news and commentary website Truthdig.[1][2] He is also a host for the television program On Contact on RT.[3] Hedges spent nearly two decades as a foreign correspondent in Central America, West Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and the Balkans. He has reported from more than fifty countries, and has worked for The Christian Science Monitor, NPR, Dallas Morning News, and The New York Times,[4] where he was a foreign correspondent for fifteen years (1990–2005).
why does he take money from Putin?
evince
Truthmatters
Three of Hedges' articles were based upon the stories of Iraqi defectors, who had been furnished to Hedges by the Information Collection Program of the U.S.-funded Iraqi National Congress.[20] The program promoted stories to major media outlets in order to orchestrate U.S. intervention in Iraq in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks. Most significant of his reports in this period was a November 8, 2001, front-page story about two former Iraqi military commanders who claimed to have trained foreign mujahedeen how to hijack planes without using guns.[21] Hedges quoted a man whom he believed to be an Iraqi general: "These Islamic radicals ... came from a variety of countries, including Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Algeria, Egypt, and Morocco. We were training these people to attack installations important to the United States". The two defectors also asserted there was a secret compound in Salman Pak facility where a German scientist was producing biological weapons.[22]
According to Mother Jones: "The impact of the article ... was immediate: Op-eds ran in major papers, and the story was taken to a wider audience through cable-TV talk shows. When Condoleezza Rice, then George W. Bush's national security adviser, was asked about the report at a press briefing, she said, 'I think it surprises no one that Saddam Hussein is engaged in all kinds of activities that are destabilizing.'" As late as 2006, conservative magazines including The Weekly Standard and National Review continued to use this article to justify the invasion of Iraq.[23]
It later was revealed that the story which Hedges reported was "an elaborate scam". The defector whom Hedges quoted, who had identified himself as Lt. General Jamal al-Ghurairy, was a former sergeant. The real Ghurairy had never left Iraq. Hedges said that he had taken on reporting this account at the request of Lowell Bergman of Frontline, who wanted the defectors for his show but could not go to Beirut for the interview. The trip had been organized by Ahmed Chalabi, whom Hedges considered to be unreliable. Hedges said he had done the piece as a favor to Bergman, explaining, "There has to be a level of trust between reporters. We cover each other's sources when it's a good story because otherwise everyone would get hold of it." Hedges had relied on the U.S. embassy in Turkey for further confirmation of the man's identity.[23]
Hedges wrote two more articles that year that were informed by Chalabi-coached defectors. The second one, claiming that Iraq still held 80 Kuwaitis captured in the 1991 Gulf War in a secret underground prison, was also found to be baseless.[24]
evince
Truthmatters
because he works for Putin
Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
better to listen to this guy
evince
Truthmatters
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evince
Truthmatters
In October 2012, Hedges publicly supported Jill Stein, the candidate of the Green Party of the United States, in the 2012 United States presidential election.[45] On April 7, 2013, Hedges delivered the keynote address at the Green Party of New Jersey state convention.[46][47]
Jill Stein was at that same table with Putin as Flynn