Hear Chris Hedges!
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Evidently Melania had a seven hour layover in Cairo on her return trip from Africa that cost $14,000.00. Maybe that's why she fired Mira Ricardel.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello evince,
The Democrats can be wrong.
You know, when we align with a political party, we give up some of our freedom. It is making a deal. We give up something, we get something. If our views are not completely aligned with the PARTY we compromise on some things and accept what THE PARTY wants. We give up some of our individuality.
If THE PARTY has most of what we want, that's enticing. We might think it is worth it. THE PARTY has power because there are so many people in it. We add to that power when we join. But we sacrifice anything THE PARTY doesn't want. Even if we think it is a good idea, we have to give up on that. We give up creativity and innovation.
We also have to accept some things we might not want.
If THE PARTY backs something we don't really agree with, we lend our power to that by going with THE PARTY.
POLITICAL PARTIES are not the end-all be-all.
What they are is people giving up on things together.
The Democrats can be wrong.
You know, when we align with a political party, we give up some of our freedom. It is making a deal. We give up something, we get something. If our views are not completely aligned with the PARTY we compromise on some things and accept what THE PARTY wants. We give up some of our individuality.
If THE PARTY has most of what we want, that's enticing. We might think it is worth it. THE PARTY has power because there are so many people in it. We add to that power when we join. But we sacrifice anything THE PARTY doesn't want. Even if we think it is a good idea, we have to give up on that. We give up creativity and innovation.
We also have to accept some things we might not want.
If THE PARTY backs something we don't really agree with, we lend our power to that by going with THE PARTY.
POLITICAL PARTIES are not the end-all be-all.
What they are is people giving up on things together.
evince
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you know what Putin wants ?
Americans to feel their system is hopeless.
why were you using WE?
you were NOT talking about me
I am no dupe
people who buy the idea that the Democratic party is as corrupt as the republican party buy lies.
they are NOT the same
Pretending they are both equally evil is utterly a LIE
I don't need to pretend the Democratic party and its leaders are evil to make my self feel fair
I am aware enough of what is going on to DECLARE with Facts what they actually are.
and Im sure not going to listen to some evil man who takes Putin money.
take Putin money and you are dead to me
he is a right wing man who takes Putins money
My party is full of decent men and women who could roll this guys head with facts that prove he has a failed philosophy and should nit be taking Putin payments
The SECOND the Democratic party abandons its Ideas I will bail on them
please don't insult me by pretending Im backing merely a label
that man is nit the end all be all is he ?
so why does he get respect from YOU as if he is better than all the humans in the Democratic party leadership who have saved this nation from LIE filled marches to war, economic disasters and decades of election cheating ?
an unreal sense of fairness?
this man takes Putin money
remember my first words to yu 9n this site
It was a warning that if you began to look like a FAKE left poster I would recognize it in a very short time
this man is a FAKE left guy working for Putin to try and malign the ONLY party this nation has the represents the people who voted for it
he is working for putin
He takes Putins Money
he is evil
lets remember Mussolini pretended to be working for the people with his words
and then delivered his own nation to the already wealthy by appointing them too all the seats of power
HES LYING AND WORKING FOR PUTIN
evince
Truthmatters
why should I trust this man just because sometimes he SAYS liberal like things?
why should I trust a man who works for putin and his lively hood depends on how Putin feels about what he says ?
left leaning people who immediately begin trashing the Democratic party platform and its leaders the SECOND we get a little power back are not helping the march to freedom from evil
but for some reason you wont answer my posts
why should I trust a man who works for putin and his lively hood depends on how Putin feels about what he says ?
left leaning people who immediately begin trashing the Democratic party platform and its leaders the SECOND we get a little power back are not helping the march to freedom from evil
but for some reason you wont answer my posts
evince
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http://www.seattleglobalist.com/2015/05/06/russia-today-rt-putin-holocaust-ultra-right/35844
RT is the Russian times
others know what Im saying
If you take RT money you have your hands in Putins pockets and he has your mind in his hands
Its you not me being played
RT is the Russian times
others know what Im saying
If you take RT money you have your hands in Putins pockets and he has your mind in his hands
Its you not me being played
montgomery
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Hello Poli, I see that Hedges is fairly popular with the left but on another forum that is rabid frothing at the mouth right, they hate him. They're pretty convinced that Trump is going to fix everything up for them. I started a thread there the same as this one and the admin deleted the whole thread, she got so mad. Needless to say, I'm outta that one.
I think that Hedges' ideas are the future for America and I think it better start happening soon, judging by his predictions. Thanks for the video link!
montgomery
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You really are quite the serial poster aren't you! I actually didn't know that Hedges contributes to RT. But I certainly do know all about RT! It's a great non-US source of news that has stories the US media buries.
You don't seem to have much of an understanding of what Hedges is all about and that appears to be because you haven't been able to come to understand that the Dem party isn't your friend.
I don't think I'm going to be able to convince you of that but at least we might be able to talk about it. Americans are going to have to start to be able to associate the pain they're feeling with the two major parties and that's going to take time.
One thing I will say to help you along is: The people in other Western countries are much better off than you Americans. But the elite, as Hedges would say, are holding up the facade of the American way and most of you haven't got the resources or the energy or the time off your part time jobs, to get out to some other country to see. You're going to have to learn the hard way by feeling a lot more pain.
Would you like to start with a discussion on RT and why they support Trump?
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello evince,
Correct. The greater the polarization in the US political system, the more paralyzed it is. This makes Putin's corruption look not so bad.
We, as in we, Americans.
OK, so why are you making this about you? That's a trick the president uses. Is that what you want to emulate?
No, they each have their own way of serving the rich, shafting the poor, and furthering the Class War.
Well, I really don't recognize the term 'evil,' so we are thinking of things in different ways. Mine is more logical. Logic: If there is wrongdoing, it should be called out. Nobody gets a 'Free Pass' just because they are in the Democratic Party. They need to stick to good principles.
You're very well informed, yes. Although some of the things you call facts are leaning into opinion territory.
I usually align with what the Democrats want to do as well, but I reserve my own judgement. I don't just go along with whatever the party wants. Look, evince. If you are so dedicated to the Democratic Party, then you should be very nice to me. I am closer to the middle. I am one of the deciders. People who always vote the straight party ticket are predictable. It is the ones in the middle who are the deciders. We can tip things either way. You straight party ticket people never decide anything. The rights cancel out the lefts. The whole battle is really for the middle. It is not wise for partisans to drive the middle away. They need every vote they can get.
They already did when they ran Hillary instead of Bernie.
I never said that. I am just realistic that there is indeed corruption in the Democratic Party.
I think you're talking about President Trump. You're mad because I give him the respect of not calling him names. When I do that I am showing respect for our Constitution. He is a Constitutional officer of our nation. The office deserves respect if you respect our Constitution. If we, as a nation, didn't want to be in a position of having to give this man the respect he was elected into, then we should have done more to prevent his election.
I've been here for the better part of a year now. I am what I am. Most people consider my positions to be on the left. But I always want to hear any reasonable arguments for why I might be wrong. I could change my position on an issue if I heard a logical argument why. That has happened before. You've convinced me of nothing. And I am still wondering if you really help the left or not. I know you hurt the United States of America when you spread hatred and polarization. Our nation can't function if we hate one another. We need to have respect for different people and different ideas. That's what the left should be about. Partisanship is just group power. Views and feelings on pressing issues are grass root.
OK, you've rambled so much I am lost again. Are you talking about President Trump or me? What do you mean by 'FAKE left guy?' I would suggest that you slow down, use capitals and punctuation, proofread what you're posting. I am just going to keep on posting sincerely and honestly the way I see the world. I am genuinely on the left on most issues. I do not see the President as being on the left. He is on the right because that is the party which is easiest for him to manipulate with xenophobia. President Trump is a demagogue.
Correct. The greater the polarization in the US political system, the more paralyzed it is. This makes Putin's corruption look not so bad.
We, as in we, Americans.
OK, so why are you making this about you? That's a trick the president uses. Is that what you want to emulate?
No, they each have their own way of serving the rich, shafting the poor, and furthering the Class War.
Well, I really don't recognize the term 'evil,' so we are thinking of things in different ways. Mine is more logical. Logic: If there is wrongdoing, it should be called out. Nobody gets a 'Free Pass' just because they are in the Democratic Party. They need to stick to good principles.
You're very well informed, yes. Although some of the things you call facts are leaning into opinion territory.
I usually align with what the Democrats want to do as well, but I reserve my own judgement. I don't just go along with whatever the party wants. Look, evince. If you are so dedicated to the Democratic Party, then you should be very nice to me. I am closer to the middle. I am one of the deciders. People who always vote the straight party ticket are predictable. It is the ones in the middle who are the deciders. We can tip things either way. You straight party ticket people never decide anything. The rights cancel out the lefts. The whole battle is really for the middle. It is not wise for partisans to drive the middle away. They need every vote they can get.
They already did when they ran Hillary instead of Bernie.
I never said that. I am just realistic that there is indeed corruption in the Democratic Party.
Trying to figure out who you're talking about here. You're rambling.
I think you're talking about President Trump. You're mad because I give him the respect of not calling him names. When I do that I am showing respect for our Constitution. He is a Constitutional officer of our nation. The office deserves respect if you respect our Constitution. If we, as a nation, didn't want to be in a position of having to give this man the respect he was elected into, then we should have done more to prevent his election.
No. Respect for the USA. He represents the USA. Besides. I respect everybody. If I don't appreciate someone, I usually just keep my distance, move away. It's a big wide world. Plenty of people do not get along. Distance is a marvelous thing. The President is in your face. You can't ignore him. He's the most annoying president we've ever had. I do not like that. I must comment on him. So I call him by the title which is appropriate. He is the president. And I criticize him regularly as appropriate. Actually, he is so bad it is almost impossible to comment on every instance of lack of ethics he shows. That bad. But he is still the president.
It's amazing Republicans are so OK with that. I am not.
I've been here for the better part of a year now. I am what I am. Most people consider my positions to be on the left. But I always want to hear any reasonable arguments for why I might be wrong. I could change my position on an issue if I heard a logical argument why. That has happened before. You've convinced me of nothing. And I am still wondering if you really help the left or not. I know you hurt the United States of America when you spread hatred and polarization. Our nation can't function if we hate one another. We need to have respect for different people and different ideas. That's what the left should be about. Partisanship is just group power. Views and feelings on pressing issues are grass root.
OK, you've rambled so much I am lost again. Are you talking about President Trump or me? What do you mean by 'FAKE left guy?' I would suggest that you slow down, use capitals and punctuation, proofread what you're posting. I am just going to keep on posting sincerely and honestly the way I see the world. I am genuinely on the left on most issues. I do not see the President as being on the left. He is on the right because that is the party which is easiest for him to manipulate with xenophobia. President Trump is a demagogue.
evince
Truthmatters
evince
Truthmatters
Russian Trolls Fooled Sanders Voters With Anti-Clinton ...
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-fake-news...
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-fake-news...
Mar 11, 2017 · Saul Loeb/AFP/Getty Images Facebook groups backing Sen. Bernie Sanders were slammed with fake news links last year.
Fentoine Lum
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Hedges was actually booted off the NYT for opposing the Iraq War. Ed Shultz was forbidden to cover Sanders by MSNBC. RT has done nothing like that. The US calls Hedges a "foreign agent". That's how free speechy american corporate state "journalism" is.
Fentoine Lum
Verified User
The DNC trashed itself via its own behavior, denial will not work for you either. When the "left" devolves into red baiting, it ain't "left" anymore. Hillary can keep chasing the Reich to the right if she thinks that'll work.
evince
Truthmatters
Links to all those claims
Fentoine Lum
Verified User
They already sat on their collective ass and watched it slip away hon, get real.