Hegseth hosts first meeting of what he says will be a monthly Christian prayer service at Pentagon

Damocles said:
I am following, I just apply the whole of the meaning.

You are not required to have this "mark" to buy or sell. As I said in my previous post, that would more fit the COVID 19 vaccination cards than the hat. Folks who wear this hat are often treated poorly, and cannot buy or sell.
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No, you are obviously ignorant about the meaning of the word "or". It's alright as you are American and right wing. It is expected from you at this point.
 
More of that particular description of The Beast... He would be injured in the head by a "sword" and killed but survive. That seems to describe someone that had some brain surgery.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
There's a surprising number of things real teachers know but Toxic s omehow doesn't. Wonder why that is? lol

Let's pretend for a moment that somehow America overcomes its prejudices against women and Muslims, and elects President Ilhan Omar. She decides to hold a daily Muslim prayer session every morning in the Oval Office, inviting interested staffers to attend. Constitutional or not? I'd say probably okay. Let's pretend further that she has the call to prayer broadcast over the WH speaker system, and has her press secretary notify Daily Kos, Al Jazeera, and Huffpo to cover it. Constitutional or not? I would say it is unconstitutional as she is now making the prayer session public. As POTUS, she is endorsing Islam by her actions, right?
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A Muslim Secretary of Defense would be run out of town for organizing and publicly prompting Muslim prayer groups in a Pentagon conference room.
 
Magats_Love_NHB said:
No, you are obviously ignorant about the meaning of the word "or". It's alright as you are American and right wing. It is expected from you at this point.
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Again, "or"... means that there are both of these options... They will have the mark on either of those places. So, include a bracelet. It's simple. I bet there are even MAGA bracelets for you to include. It's crap logic, but easy to do.
 

Yes, Donald Trump Is the Antichrist​

Of course the next question is: what kind of antichrist is he?​



A listener called into my program yesterday and asked, "Is Donald Trump the Antichrist?"

I passed on drawing a conclusion, but then the lines lit up with a steady stream of people over the next few hours offering their "proofs" that Trump was, in fact, the Evil One come to ravage the Earth. That first caller clearly hit a nerve.

It's a fascinating question, however, whether put literally or metaphorically.

Asking the question literally requires a belief in the actual reality of a Son-of-God Christ figure and of an Antichrist opponent of nearly equal but opposite power. This sort of thing fills the Bible, and I'll get to that in a moment.

But first consider the question from the secular perspective, which argues these two terms represent, at their core, metaphors for the embodiment of good and evil.

In this context, then, a more accurate question is: "Is Donald Trump an Antichrist?"

In The Sermon on the Mount, Jesus spoke in the plural when he predicted "false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves."

After warning that grifters and con artists (in secular terms) would try to exploit His followers, He said, "by their fruits ye shall know them."

Trump's "fruits" are pretty obvious:

  • More than twenty women have accused him of rape and sexual assault.
  • Hundreds of contractors, customers and employees have accused him of stealing from them or refusing to pay them (or both), as have members of his own family
  • Throughout his presidency, he lied over 30,000 times
  • He pit Americans against each other by race, religion and region in an effort to tear our country apart and thus weaken opposition to his authoritarian rule
  • He openly encouraged violence against unarmed people at multiple rallies and encourage state violence at a speech to chiefs of police
  • He tried to overthrow and end our democracy
  • He embraced murderers, kleptocrats and "strongman" rulers while ridiculing western democracies and their elected leaders
  • He tried to damage or dismantle political and military systems designed to keep peace in the world, including the UN, NATO and the Iran JCPOA
  • He reaches out to Jesus's followers and then directs them toward bigotry, violence and hatred
  • As an object of admiration and a role model, he's replaced Jesus in many white evangelical congregations
  • He delighted in tearing children from their parents and putting them in cages
  • He tried to end Americans' access to lifesaving medical care by killing Obamacare and privatizing Medicare
  • He watched on TV, like a delighted child, as his followers killed a police officer, sent 140 others to the hospital, and tried to murder the Vice President and Speaker of the House
  • He lied about Covid (after disclosing the truth to Bob Woodward in February, 2020), causing more disease and deaths in America than any other nation in the world
The main reason many Christians freak out about an antichrist is that following him will get you banned from heaven or even cast into hell.

But what did Jesus--the guy Trump's white evangelical followers claim as their savior--say was necessary to get into heaven?

Back in 1998 I had a private audience with Pope John Paul II at his invitation; a person close to him had read one of my books. Louise and I sat through an open-air concert with him and about 30 VIPs, including the leader of Germany's Bundestag, for more than an hour, surrounded by the splendor of Castel Gandolfo, the Pope's summer palace on the rim of an extinct volcano overlooking lake Albano.

When we spoke privately after the concert, His Holiness's forceful comments reminded me of Jesus' words in Matthew 25. It's an amazing 2,000 year-old story that tells us everything we need to know about today's "Christian" politics:

Jesus' disciples had gathered around him in a private and intimate setting.

Finally, they thought, they could ask him, straight up, the question that had been haunting them, particularly now that the Roman authorities were starting to talk about punishing or even executing them: How they could be sure to hang out with him in the afterlife?

Jesus told them that at the end of days he'd be sitting on his throne separating the sheep from the goats "as a shepherd divideth."

The nations of "sheep" would go with him to heaven, the "goats" to hell.

"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me food," he told his disciples he would say to the sheep. "I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me."

At this point, his disciples--who had never, ever seen Jesus hungry, thirsty, homeless, sick or naked--freaked out. Whoa! they shouted. We're screwed!

"When saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee?" they asked, panicked. "Or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? Or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?"

"Verily I say unto you," Jesus replied, reassuring them, "Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

This is the only place in the Bible where Jesus explicitly tells his disciples what acts they must perform, in their entirety, to get into heaven.

Feed the hungry, care for refugees, house and clothe the homeless, heal the sick, have compassion on those in prison.

That's it.

And it's a list that is quite literally the opposite of everything that Donald Trump advocates, stands for, and has done in his career.

While biblical scholars are split about who the actual "Beast" was that John referenced in his Revelation, many consider it to have been a politically-necessary cloaking of the identity of Roman Emperor Nero.

It was clearly a political figure, who represented the antithesis of the values and works Jesus laid out in the Sermon on the Mount and in Matthew 25.

A leader whose actions unleashed "a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."

Caller after caller yesterday offered their own proofs of Trump being the Beast or the Antichrist:

  • "MAGA" means "magic" or "sorcerer" in Latin and multiple other languages
  • His grandfather's name when he emigrated to America to start a whorehouse in the Pacific Northwest was "Drumpf," which he changed to Trump. John in German is "Johann." Therefore, his "actual" name is Donald Johann Drumpf--each name having six letters. (Weirdly, the same is true of Ronald Wilson Reagan.)
  • He armed the Saudis for their merciless bombing war against Yemen which has five million people facing famine as the Saudi military blocks food arrivals.
  • His family owns 666 Fifth Avenue.
  • He fooled millions of evangelical followers of Jesus, just as the Beast was supposed to do.
  • He put his own red-hat MAGA mark on their foreheads.
  • He consorts with "whores" and criminals.
It was an interesting exercise and conversation, and I was surprised by how many people are actually religiously freaked out about Trump.

But for me, all the proof I need that Trump, if not the biblical Antichrist, is at least a political one, is what he says and does.

His "fruits" tell us all we need to know about who he really is.
 
Libhater said:
I love everyone including you the endangered owl, but I certainly do 'HATE' the dem policies and ideologies that are 100%
anti Christian, anti American and anti life as can be seen by their fixation on having GOD's children murdered in the form of
abortion.
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No, you hate everyone not a MAGAT. Your very screen name says so.

When you and your fellow faux Xtians start demonstrating Jesus's teachings by providing for children in poverty without bitching about it, THEN and only then may you virtue-signal about the unborn. Until then, you're nothing more than a lip-service Xtian wanting to control women and force them to give birth.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
No, you hate everyone not a MAGAT. Your very screen name says so.

When you and your fellow faux Xtians start demonstrating Jesus's teachings by providing for children in poverty without bitching about it, THEN and only then may you virtue-signal about the unborn. Until then, you're nothing more than a lip-service Xtian wanting to control women and force them to give birth.
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It doesn't say that, there are conservatives that do not like Trump.
 
Damocles said:
hence, "or the hand"... You should include a bracelet or something if you want it to fit. This isn't symbolism... when you present the hat to replace "symbolism" then pay attention to the hand too.

You should also include the full prediction.

Without the mark you can neither buy nor sell. The one the Christians that believe in the rapture saw was the COVID 19 cards.

I think the hat would make it more difficult to buy or sell, considering how many people refuse service, spit on, or otherwise hate on folks that wear that hat.
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OMG :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Poor little persecuted and abused Trumpanzees. This is hilarious!
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Where is your proof that anyone who wrote about it saw His execution, or are they just repeating what they heard?

There does seem to be some evidence that the historical figure of Jesus once existed, but none that He is divine or the "only begotten" son of a god.
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The reporting in the New testament is that female followers of Jesus witnessed the crucifixion, while his male disciples abandoned him and ran away, lol.

That has the ring of historical authenticity it, because in a highly patriarchal society like Roman Judea and the ancient Middle East, women did not have credibility as witnesses. That, combined with the fact the male disciples are painted in such a bad light, as cowards essentially, this is not something a propagandist would think to write. It actually sounds authentic and legitimate because it breaks the standards a propagandist would be expected to use.
 
Damocles said:
I am following, I just apply the whole of the meaning.

You are not required to have this "mark" to buy or sell. As I said in my previous post, that would more fit the COVID 19 vaccination cards than the hat. Folks who wear this hat are often treated poorly, and cannot buy or sell.
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How did you arrive at this conclusion, Damo? They freely bought their hats, worship the Orange Jesus and defend him even though he breaks both the Ten Commandments and Christ's two commandments on a daily basis.
 
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