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Considering that previous resolutions give bush the authority to "fight terrorism" this is a back-door declaration of war against Iran.

Most disturbing, Hillary voted for it, and that f'ing Obama ducked another controversial vote. Hillary is a warmonger and Obama is too chicken shit to be President.

I think Hagel might have been the sole republican to vote against it , but only a 22 total did that anyway.

Bush will use this. Anyone who thinks he won't, has either been asleep for 7 years, or is a fool.

Kyl-Lieberman Iran Amendment Passes By Huge Margin
By Greg Sargent - September 26, 2007, 1:15PM
The Kyl-Lieberman Iran amendment -- which ratchets up the confrontation with Iran by calling for the designation of its Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization responsible for killing U.S. troops -- just passed overwhelmingly, 76-22.

Of the Dem Presidential candidates, Hillary voted for the measure, Joe Biden and Chris Dodd opposed it, and Barack Obama missed the vote. On the GOP side, John McCain missed the vote.

The bill's backers had tried to mollify its critics by taking out some of its most incendiary language, particularly the idea that "it should be the policy of the United States to combat, contain, and roll back the violent activities and destabilizing influence inside Iraq of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, its foreign facilitators such as Lebanese Hezbollah, and its indigenous Iraqi proxies."

Also removed from the measure was a provision "to support the prudent and calibrated use of all instruments of United States national power in Iraq, including diplomatic, economic, intelligence, and military instruments" in support of the above.

One leading critic, Jim Webb, however, still opposed the bill because it designates the Iran guard a terrorist organization. Nonetheless, it was able to pass overwhelmingly.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/09/kyllieberman_iran_amendment_passes_by_huge_margin.php
 
Considering that previous resolutions give bush the authority to "fight terrorism" this is a back-door declaration of war against Iran.

Most disturbing, Hillary voted for it, and that f'ing Obama ducked another controversial vote. Hillary is a warmonger and Obama is too chicken shit to be President.

I think Hagel might have been the sole republican to vote against it , but only a 22 total did that anyway.

Bush will use this. Anyone who thinks he won't, has either been asleep for 7 years, or is a fool.

Kyl-Lieberman Iran Amendment Passes By Huge Margin
By Greg Sargent - September 26, 2007, 1:15PM
The Kyl-Lieberman Iran amendment -- which ratchets up the confrontation with Iran by calling for the designation of its Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization responsible for killing U.S. troops -- just passed overwhelmingly, 76-22.

Of the Dem Presidential candidates, Hillary voted for the measure, Joe Biden and Chris Dodd opposed it, and Barack Obama missed the vote. On the GOP side, John McCain missed the vote.

The bill's backers had tried to mollify its critics by taking out some of its most incendiary language, particularly the idea that "it should be the policy of the United States to combat, contain, and roll back the violent activities and destabilizing influence inside Iraq of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, its foreign facilitators such as Lebanese Hezbollah, and its indigenous Iraqi proxies."

Also removed from the measure was a provision "to support the prudent and calibrated use of all instruments of United States national power in Iraq, including diplomatic, economic, intelligence, and military instruments" in support of the above.

One leading critic, Jim Webb, however, still opposed the bill because it designates the Iran guard a terrorist organization. Nonetheless, it was able to pass overwhelmingly.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/09/kyllieberman_iran_amendment_passes_by_huge_margin.php

I am so mad I am pretty sure I could spit fire balls right now!

You are right, Obama is a coward and Hillary is a liar, she said this wouldn't happen again on her watch, that she was fooled last time, but won't get fooled again, guess what bitch, you lied!
 
I am so mad I am pretty sure I could spit fire balls right now!

You are right, Obama is a coward and Hillary is a liar, she said this wouldn't happen again on her watch, that she was fooled last time, but won't get fooled again, guess what bitch, you lied!

This is really chilling, even though we anticipated such a move. There has to be a way to stop it.
 
I am so mad I am pretty sure I could spit fire balls right now!

You are right, Obama is a coward and Hillary is a liar, she said this wouldn't happen again on her watch, that she was fooled last time, but won't get fooled again, guess what bitch, you lied!

It's devastating all around. I never believed Hillary...I've already noted this dismaying trait about Obama....but I'm still feeling devastated. There isn't anywhere to go. They're going to burn to death Iranian children, and enough of this country will cheer. You have seen the demonization of Ahmadinejad. He is Hitler AND Satan now.

Thorn, I wish I believed there was a way to stop it, I often have to pretend that I believe that, as an activst. But I never really did believe it.
 
This is really chilling, even though we anticipated such a move. There has to be a way to stop it.

I know what you mean, you know it is coming, but even when it finally does, I am still in shock...

Complain, and complain, I am going to fire off some letters to the top Presidential candidates, crap, i may even vote for Biden!
 
Maybe mobilize.............

This is really chilling, even though we anticipated such a move. There has to be a way to stop it.



all the 'Code Pink' chapters...they could charter flights to Iran...protest the Headquarters of the 'Revolutionary Guard' Just a thought...since 'Code Pink' claims to be soooo effective and all!:cof1:
 
I know what you mean, you know it is coming, but even when it finally does, I am still in shock...

Complain, and complain, I am going to fire off some letters to the top Presidential candidates, crap, i may even vote for Biden!

Dodd voted againt it too. You know, Dodd is a good candidate, too bad he doesn't have whatever that thing is you have to have in order to be seriously considered. Biden I have mixed feelings about, but, he has always had the smartest things to say about how to practically get out of Iraq.
 
Dodd voted againt it too. You know, Dodd is a good candidate, too bad he doesn't have whatever that thing is you have to have in order to be seriously considered. Biden I have mixed feelings about, but, he has always had the smartest things to say about how to practically get out of Iraq.

I know what you mean about Biden, Edwards is starting to look better to me, too! Even Ron Paul at this point. I just know that I am damned disappointed with Obama and Hillary can just forgetaboutit...Dodd, huh, haven't paid much attention to him, have to start looking!
 
Paragraphs Three and Four, were taken out of the final resolution. That was the text specifically stating there could be military action against iran.

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/kyl-lieberman.pdf

Nonetheless, given Bush's warmongering history, ANY wiggle room in the resolution, with respect to Iran, is dangereous for THIS president to have. The mofo will twist and re-interpet the everything, to justify his actions.

For christ sakes, good-old-boy Red state democrats like Tester and Webb voted against this. Bush should be given NOTHING that even has a chance of giving him wiggle room to war monger.

Hillary's vote doesn't suprise me. Its just one more reason I'll do what I can to deny her the nomination.
 
Ok Darla... we get to agree on this one. What I want to know is how the hell did this pass so over-whelmingly? The Dems leadership no longer has much room to bitch... especially when their frontrunner votes for bullshit like this.

This makes me very nervous. With a Dem Congress, I didn't see any way Bush could backdoor his way into starting crap with Iran other than maybe calling Ahmadinejad a nancy boy over and over again until he snapped. Now the Dems hand him a back door.

and yes, I realize the Reps voted for this too... but the Dems could have easily blocked this.

I really really hate the politicians in DC.
 
Paragraphs Three and Four, were taken out of the final resolution. That was the text specifically stating there could be military action against iran.

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/kyl-lieberman.pdf

Nonetheless, given Bush's warmongering history, ANY wiggle room in the resolution, with respect to Iran, is dangereous for THIS president to have. The mofo will twist and re-interpet the everything, to justify his actions.

For christ sakes, good-old-boy Red state democrats like Tester and Webb voted against this. Bush should be given NOTHING that even has a chance of giving him wiggle room to war monger.

Hillary's vote doesn't suprise me. Its just one more reason I'll do what I can to deny her the nomination.

Arggggh, this is so frustrating, why aren't these people paying attention?

What would be their possible reasons for voting for this amendment?
 
Dodd voted againt it too. You know, Dodd is a good candidate, too bad he doesn't have whatever that thing is you have to have in order to be seriously considered. Biden I have mixed feelings about, but, he has always had the smartest things to say about how to practically get out of Iraq.

Unfortunately too many people are of the mindset that a President should possess the oratory skills of Reagan and Clinton. That should never be a primary reason for someone to lead this country... yet it is. Dodd is deemed "boring" and that just won't get you elected like "I wanna have a beer with him" will.
 
Ok Darla... we get to agree on this one. What I want to know is how the hell did this pass so over-whelmingly? The Dems leadership no longer has much room to bitch... especially when their frontrunner votes for bullshit like this.

This makes me very nervous. With a Dem Congress, I didn't see any way Bush could backdoor his way into starting crap with Iran other than maybe calling Ahmadinejad a nancy boy over and over again until he snapped. Now the Dems hand him a back door.

and yes, I realize the Reps voted for this too... but the Dems could have easily blocked this.

I really really hate the politicians in DC.


Please stop with the crocodile tears. You wanted a war with Iraq. A nation for which there was FAR less evidence of ties to international terrorist organizations, and muslim extremists.
 
I am so mad I am pretty sure I could spit fire balls right now!

You are right, Obama is a coward and Hillary is a liar, she said this wouldn't happen again on her watch, that she was fooled last time, but won't get fooled again, guess what bitch, you lied!
She wasn't fooled last time.
 
Paragraphs Three and Four, were taken out of the final resolution. That was the text specifically stating there could be military action against iran.

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/kyl-lieberman.pdf

Nonetheless, given Bush's warmongering history, ANY wiggle room in the resolution, with respect to Iran, is dangereous for THIS president to have. The mofo will twist and re-interpet the everything, to justify his actions.

For christ sakes, good-old-boy Red state democrats like Tester and Webb voted against this. Bush should be given NOTHING that even has a chance of giving him wiggle room to war monger.

Hillary's vote doesn't suprise me. Its just one more reason I'll do what I can to deny her the nomination.

It's not wiggle room Cypress. It's authorization for war against Iran. Here is the only sentence that matters:

designation of its Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization responsible for killing U.S. troops -- just passed

There has been debate inside of Washington whether the two previous resolutions gave bush authorizaton to attack Iran, with the usual hardliners claiming that it did. But because there was any debate, they went back to get this. Coupled with the previous and broad resolution, bush can now attack Iran.
 
Ok Darla... we get to agree on this one. What I want to know is how the hell did this pass so over-whelmingly? The Dems leadership no longer has much room to bitch... especially when their frontrunner votes for bullshit like this.

This makes me very nervous. With a Dem Congress, I didn't see any way Bush could backdoor his way into starting crap with Iran other than maybe calling Ahmadinejad a nancy boy over and over again until he snapped. Now the Dems hand him a back door.

and yes, I realize the Reps voted for this too... but the Dems could have easily blocked this.

I really really hate the politicians in DC.

If I say why I think it is it will be considered impolite, because you are simply not permitted to mention this.

It is because of AIPAC.
 
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