Hmmm.

I have fired that rifle before, left a terrible bruise on my shoulder, and I was not so accurate.

You've fired a rifle? Like you're a lawyer?

A Mauser is legendary for its accuracy. For long range, the optics used is critical. The adjustments matter. Leupold. Burris, etc. are needed.

 
He also said stoning them was “God’s perfect law” You just refuse to see that he promoted violence against the LBGTQ community.
Again. As he was mocking Ms Rachel for cherry picking. He was quoting. It's beyond insane that you won't just listen to what he said instead of vapidly believing the leftreich gaslighting.
 
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J6 = violence instigated by the one at the very top. The violence was because of a lost election and the failure to accept it. The violence was because some people cannot tolerate differences of opinion and belief. The violence done to Mr. Kirk was caused by the very same thing.

Unfortunately, Reichwing pundits and politicians, some of them, are now going to blame THE ENTIRE LEFT for the death of Mr. Kirk. Some are even going to suggest or outright call for equal violence to be done to this group of people. It's already begun. They don't care about this young man's death. They've got their martyr.
I understand the concerns about other things. What I was responding to is the idea that “free speech has consequences” right after a murder.

If a person or a business says or does something that offends others and loses customers because of it (or gets protested or criticized), that’s a consequence of free speech. Murder shouldn't be in that category.
 
Again. As he was mocking Ms Rachel for cherry picking. He was quoting. It's beyond insane that you won't just listen to what he said instead of vapidly believing the leftreich gaslighting.
It’s doesn’t matter Damo, when you put stuff out there like Kirk did, some people don’t care about the context, they just feed off the hate and hear that Kirk believes God’s petfect law was to stone LGBTQ.
 
It’s doesn’t matter Damo, when you put stuff out there like Kirk did, some people don’t care about the context, they just feed off the hate and hear that Kirk believes God’s petfect law was to stone LGBTQ.
And some, knowing better, repeat it because of what? It matters. If you know what you are saying is inaccurate, and still repeat it, you are feeding that "hate", not the other person who didn't say what you claim they said.
 
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I don't think many realize what a force he was...They should ask their grandchildren and relaitives...they'd be astounded about how many followed and respected him...
Funny, virtually all the young folks I’ve talked to here in Cbus despised the guy.

Folks espousing the hateful rhetoric like Kirk, and I could care less what side of the aisle they’re on, represents histories dust bin of failed ideas.

I’m not interested in the failed ideas of the past like Charlie Kirk was or any extremist.

This nation isn’t divided. It’s the politicians, news outlets and social media that are trying to divide this country because divisiveness is profitable.

I haven’t met a person yet that no matter how far their political views diverge from mine that I couldn’t break bread with.
 
charlie kirk did not do anything you said........you should reevaluate all you've thought you've known
He most certainly did. You just have on blinders.

"[Kirk] started Professor Watchlist and School Board Watchlist, which sought to fire or silence professors and educators through targeted harassment campaigns for sharing opinions opposed by Turning Point.

Kirk promoted far-right and Trump-aligned causes. He espoused a variety of controversial views, especially regarding his opposition to gun control, abortion and LGBTQ rights; his criticism of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Martin Luther King Jr.; and his promotion of Christian nationalism, COVID-19 misinformation, the Great Replacement conspiracy theory, and false claims of electoral fraud in 2020.

He started The Mount Vernon Project, an initiative by Turning Point Action to remove members from the Republican National Committee who were not "grassroot conservatives".

Kirk said the violent acts at the Capitol were not an insurrection and did not represent mainstream Trump supporters.

In a 2022 episode of his podcast, Kirk called for a "patriot" to bail out of jail the man who broke into Nancy Pelosi's house and attacked her husband with a hammer.

His rhetoric was described as divisive, racist, xenophobic, and extreme by groups that studied hate speech

According to Forbes, Kirk was known for "his repudiation of liberal college education and embrace of pro-Trump conspiracy theories". Kirk promoted the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory and described universities as "islands of totalitarianism"

In July 2018, Kirk falsely claimed on social media that Justice Department statistics showed an increase in human trafficking arrests from 1,952 in the year 2016 to 6,087 in the first half of 2018. He deleted the tweet without an explanation the next day, after a fact-checker had pointed out that the false 2018 number had originated on the conspiracy site 8chan.

Kirk spread falsehoods about voter fraud, as well as the COVID-19 pandemic. In defending the Trump administration's response to the COVID-19 pandemic, Kirk falsely stated that, during the H1N1 swine flu pandemic, it "took President Barack Obama 'millions infected and over 1,000 deaths'" to declare a public health emergency. In fact, when the Obama administration acknowledged the WHO's declaration of a public health emergency on April 26, 2009, there were less than 280 cases of H1N1 infection reported in the U.S.

Immediately after Donald Trump lost the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Kirk promoted false and disproven claims of fraud in the election.

On the Minnesota leg of the tour on October 5, 2021, Kirk called George Floyd a "scumbag". Kirk promoted several debunked claims about Floyd, such as that he was "illegally counterfeiting currency", and had once "put a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach." On Facebook, YouTube and Rumble, Kirk repeatedly promoted the false claim that the medical examiner who performed the autopsy declared Floyd had died of an overdose. Following a fact check by AFP that noted the doctor stood by the classification of Floyd's death as a homicide, corrections were added to Kirk's posts on social media.

Kirk described the public health measure of social distancing prohibitions in churches as a "Democratic plot against Christianity" and made the unfounded assertion that authorities in Wuhan, China, were burning patients."

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Well, you missed the episode where he said LBGTQ should be treated as they were in the 50-60’s. I suggest you research what happened to the LBGTQ community during those decades.
Precisely.

"The 1950s and 1960s were not kind to transgender people. The standard treatments for trans people was lobotomy, shock treatment, or involuntary institutionalization. Queer people were routinely murdered and their murderers got away with it. Official policies of the 1950s included promoting “vigilant detecting” of queer people with police commissioners describing them as “a cancer in the community.” It is impossible to interpret this as anything less than a call for violence against the transgender community. The fact that anti-trans swimmer Riley Gaines nods and smiles along shows that those who oppose transgender rights, ranging from sports to public accommodations, do so with an undercurrent of glee in the thought of violence against transgender people. Charlie Kirk brought that undercurrent to the surface and made it clear for all to see it."

 
I'm surprised, especially after the near assassination of president Trump, that the roofs weren't checked as a matter of course by security staff. Surely surveillance drones should have been operating all around the campus area.
Why are you surprised? Charlie Kirk was responsible for his own security. That means he couldn't line his pockets with money he pays for drones and people to check rooftops. He was secure in the fact that liberals wouldn't be shooting him. He was right on that count but wrong on his safety from his own kind.
 
Funny, virtually all the young folks I’ve talked to here in Cbus despised the guy.

Folks espousing the hateful rhetoric like Kirk, and I could care less what side of the aisle they’re on, represents histories dust bin of failed ideas.

I’m not interested in the failed ideas of the past like Charlie Kirk was or any extremist.

This nation isn’t divided. It’s the politicians, news outlets and social media that are trying to divide this country because divisiveness is profitable.

I haven’t met a person yet that no matter how far their political views diverge from mine that I couldn’t break bread with.
I would have ro say just the opposite.... And i'm around a ton of high school and college people , but I guess we are on different sides of town....;) Honestly, I
Bet you and Charlie could have had great conversation.. Your last sentence just says why that would be possible... and I'm pretty sure you love your family and your country... I've been
Over the divisiveness for a very long time... I don't do the political thing in real life at all.... I Would never
have accomplished a thing If I let that get in the way... I only get defensive over football....
 
He most certainly did. You just have on blinders.

"[Kirk] started Professor Watchlist and School Board Watchlist, which sought to fire or silence professors and educators through targeted harassment campaigns for sharing opinions opposed by Turning Point.

Kirk promoted far-right and Trump-aligned causes. He espoused a variety of controversial views, especially regarding his opposition to gun control, abortion and LGBTQ rights; his criticism of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Martin Luther King Jr.; and his promotion of Christian nationalism, COVID-19 misinformation, the Great Replacement conspiracy theory, and false claims of electoral fraud in 2020.

He started The Mount Vernon Project, an initiative by Turning Point Action to remove members from the Republican National Committee who were not "grassroot conservatives".

Kirk said the violent acts at the Capitol were not an insurrection and did not represent mainstream Trump supporters.

In a 2022 episode of his podcast, Kirk called for a "patriot" to bail out of jail the man who broke into Nancy Pelosi's house and attacked her husband with a hammer.

His rhetoric was described as divisive, racist, xenophobic, and extreme by groups that studied hate speech

According to Forbes, Kirk was known for "his repudiation of liberal college education and embrace of pro-Trump conspiracy theories". Kirk promoted the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory and described universities as "islands of totalitarianism"

In July 2018, Kirk falsely claimed on social media that Justice Department statistics showed an increase in human trafficking arrests from 1,952 in the year 2016 to 6,087 in the first half of 2018. He deleted the tweet without an explanation the next day, after a fact-checker had pointed out that the false 2018 number had originated on the conspiracy site 8chan.

Kirk spread falsehoods about voter fraud, as well as the COVID-19 pandemic. In defending the Trump administration's response to the COVID-19 pandemic, Kirk falsely stated that, during the H1N1 swine flu pandemic, it "took President Barack Obama 'millions infected and over 1,000 deaths'" to declare a public health emergency. In fact, when the Obama administration acknowledged the WHO's declaration of a public health emergency on April 26, 2009, there were less than 280 cases of H1N1 infection reported in the U.S.

Immediately after Donald Trump lost the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Kirk promoted false and disproven claims of fraud in the election.

On the Minnesota leg of the tour on October 5, 2021, Kirk called George Floyd a "scumbag". Kirk promoted several debunked claims about Floyd, such as that he was "illegally counterfeiting currency", and had once "put a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach." On Facebook, YouTube and Rumble, Kirk repeatedly promoted the false claim that the medical examiner who performed the autopsy declared Floyd had died of an overdose. Following a fact check by AFP that noted the doctor stood by the classification of Floyd's death as a homicide, corrections were added to Kirk's posts on social media.

Kirk described the public health measure of social distancing prohibitions in churches as a "Democratic plot against Christianity" and made the unfounded assertion that authorities in Wuhan, China, were burning patients."

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It seems many people have blinders on when it comes to Kirk and his message.
 
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