Dutch Uncle
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You need help, Sybil. Jus' sayin'.I AM A PSYCHO
ALL MY SOCKS ARE PSYCHOS TOO
HERE'S MY PSYCHO DANCE
Home Schooling vs. Compulsory Defenseless Zone Youth Indoctrination
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IBDaMann
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You don't like it. Would you prefer it be unavailable to those who greatly prefer it and it's numerous advantages?
Once again, you don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have no understanding on this matter.
Parents can certainly present the exact same material that public school teachers present, by getting all the same material from the Board of Education. Parents can assign all the same homework and more, to ensure satisfactory learning of the material.
Parents can impart their own wisdom and teach their children to think critically as opposed to the dumbing-down non-thinkng that atrophies the minds of public school children, as in your case.
That would be our leftist public schools that, instead of teaching critical reasoning, have students learn to believe whatever CNN tells them to believe for 30 minutes per day.
When you homeschool, you never have to arrange for the transportation of the children anywhere or fund the cost of the transportation. When homeschooling, you never need to brave the elements or shut down the children's education because of inclement weather. No time is wasted sitting in bad traffic, no traffic accidents are caused, all in the name of "still coming home again."
Yes, a student attending a public school could potentially receive the same Board of Education-approved education as a homeschool student, but there are no guarantees. No public school teacher cares as much about any child as do the child's parents, and some public school teachers just don't care at all.
es it is a false choice. You presented one alternative as the ultimate evil, and the other as the perfect solution. It's intellectually dishonest. Because that's what you do. You aren't capable of a nuanced discussion. Your choices are completely binary. What's funny is that you think you're brilliant. It actually makes me chuckle when I read your posts.
BidenPresident
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He knows basic English grammar. That does make him a genius compared to his fellow right wingers on this forum.
Let's take just one example. "....children are systematically programmed by a leftist political curriculum..."
A few years ago radio talk show personalities started the leftist indoctrination (and unions) generalizations about public schools based on some examples but which represent very little of what actually occurs.
I am very critical of public and private schools in the U. S. but charges about CRT and indoctrination are inaccurate and mislabeled. People have continued to repeat those same talk show claims year after year while having little real knowledge of what is happening in the schools. They just repeat what they have heard.
There are exampled of these things that occur which reinforce their beliefs, but these are only the extreme example.
Recently, we have seen some stories about history teachers teaching kids the 2020 election was stolen, but this is not representative of most history teachers.
So, giving posters a choice between homeschooling and indoctrinating public schools is a false choice because it does not exist. I am much more critical about things that are occurring rather than phony generalizations.
Using tax dollars to compulsorily herd children into defenselessness zones for maximum active-shooter convenience while the children are systematically programmed by a leftist political curriculum to be woke, undereducated, scientifically illiterate and mathematically incompetent HATERS
Kids get beaten, raped, and twisted at homes too . The world is not a nest of Ozzie and Harriet homes. All the flaws of parents are transferred to kids. When they learn one side, they do not develop the tools to debate anything mentally.
Homeschooling has no social interplay. Homeschooling at its best has huge gaps in socialization and handling yourself with the opposite sex, Home schoolers pay the price.
Dutch Uncle
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That's what CPS is for.
The links prove you wrong.
Soooo...you want to ban homeschooling?
Nope. You can insulate yourself from the world and indoctrinate your kids as you choose. Can parents really teach history, reading, writing, math, and all the other subjects with an open mind.? But that is not what they are after, is it?
Dutch Uncle
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You are projecting your hatred of anyone right of center upon parents who homeschool. Again, the links proved you wrong in terms of quality of education and also the reasons parents homeschool.
Still, as stated previously, I support better Federal funding of public schools. Most of the kids around here attend public school. Most of the 12-18 year old cadets in my CAP squadron attend public school. Why you have a conniption over parents who don't seems more authoritarian than honest to me. The fact you distort their reasoning is also very telling.
IBDaMann
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No, let's not. You are supposed to be explaining why the OP is inaccurate. I'm not interested in any "examples" of the completely undefined.
Stay focused. No "personalities" are being discussed. I am stating an observation that public schools teach a completely leftist-scrubbed curriculum that absolutely dumbs-down the vulnerable, impressionable children in a totally controlled, captive-audience setting, rendering them stupid and gullible enough to totally fall for Marxist propaganda of all sorts.
* Public schools brazenly teach the Climate Change religion in the science classroom, ensuring the children turn out like you, scientifically illiterate to the point of not even knowing what science even is. You probably believe that science is a subjective matter that is determined by some consensus. Regardless, leftists such as yourself are overjoyed to have your religion taught in the science classroom but you'd be the first to bitch if they started teaching Intelligent Design in the science classroom, even though Intelligent Design, unlike Climate Change, doesn't require belief in a myriad of physics violations.
* Public schools give children the option of ditching school for a day if they do so in support of Black Lives Matter terrorism, vandalism and other violence ... but if a student where's an NRA T-shirt to school they suspend his ass on the spot.
* Public schools fuck with children's minds by encouraging children to "be" the opposite gender of what they are and to insist that they get to choose how English grammar applies to them.
Public schools have become the Democrat Party and require the children in their captivity to acquiesce to their dogma. Please don't waste my time by trying to pretend that none of this is the case.
Nope. I'm not buying it. My operating assumption is that you are a shill for some public school's Marxist teachers union. In any event, it's totally irrelevant. Let's move on.
I don't buy it. It's absolutely true that the election was stolen, but I don't believe that any teacher that has passed the public school Marxism litmus test to get hired would ever be admitting anything that honest and risk getting fired.
This is what I mean. You are a product of public schools. You don't realize that there is no such thing as a false choice. Only a total moron would make such a claim, and we have seen some total morons here on JPP making that claim. Don't willingly be one of them.
I'm not buying it. You have directed all your effort into denying those things that I have observed in the public schools wherever I have lived and to my children who unfortunately had to be deprogrammed upon returning home from school and their daily programming.
Only a moron would deny what's going on right under his own nose, and worse, to his own children.
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You are just spouting right-wing claims that have nothing to do with public schools today. What you have "observed" is really what you have heard by uninformed sources coming from idealogues that have convinced part of the public schools have indoctrinated kids.
If kids were indoctrinated toward liberalism they would all be voting Democratic. Instead, elections have been very close in recent years and in 2022 Republicans won the most votes nationally.
Dutch Uncle
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There's a reason why Sybil's sock has a parrot as an avatar.
He's clearly mental since he truly believes his socks are "other people".
IBDaMann
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First, let me say that you are a total moron, Nordberg. I just feel that we should establish a realistic context for discussion.
Second, you talk just like Karl Marx did, except you do it in English. He presumed that parents can't possibly love their children and can't possibly have their best interests at heart. Marx presumed that parents only have children to serve them with sweatshop child labor, and that men only have wives for no other purpose than to crank out more and more child labor for the swaetshop. Now here you are dribbling out the same drool.
Yes, parents are quite capable of teaching their children. Why do you pretend to declare otherwise? How do you think one gets to be a public school teacher anyway? By not being good enough at in any field that is in demand and by not being competitive enough in any field to otherwise be successful. Parents on average are far more competent than the public school teachers who probably had to choose between teaching children and asking people if they like fries with their order.
IBDaMann
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You have no rebuttal I see.
What I have observed, I have observed. You don't get to declare that I have not somehow observed what I have observed. At least now you can see how I knew you were a shill for a public school teachers union.
Hatred? Why would I hate someone who bought into the myths about schools? They are doing what they think is right. I just think they are making a mistake. Who has a rounded enough education and teaching ability to handle every school subject? I think almost nobody. I also think it is helpful for kids to get a little space from their parents.
Why do use use such slanted terms like hate, and conniption,. I hope you don't teach such slanted discourse to your kids.
Yakuda
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This from someone who isn't able to articulate a refutation to the argument put forth in the OP. I hope you come back with your usual "brilliant" response to me.
Dutch Uncle
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Disagreement is one thing, insulting people implies hatred since it's dehumanizing.
Your mistake is broad brushing; you look at your local schools and cannot see why it doesn't apply to 100% of the other 49M+ students across America. In that regard, I see little difference between you and Trumpers.
You can't rebut false information based on phony observations.
BidenPresident
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shut up you asshole troll
Yakuda
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Aaaaah there is the brilliance in was talking about. Good boy