Homosexuality is not a sin

NiftyNiblick said:
It's certainly not a sin, but is it really "normal?"
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It's abnormal in the same sense that blue eyes, blonde hair, left-handedness, O-negative blood type, and chin dimples are abnormal. It's a character trait that the large majority of the population doesn't have. But so what?

I think it's probably wrong to consider is a birth defect, any more than we'd consider those other things birth defects. Homosexuals include some of the highest-functioning people in society.

I think it could even be understood to be an evolutionary advantage in an indirect way. It at least appears that homosexuality is more likely to manifest in contexts of denser populations. That's something that shows up with other kinds of latent genes in nature -- like grasshoppers can have certain genes switched on when raised in crowded settings that cause them to develop into locusts that then swarm. Well, maybe when lots of humans are living in an area, it benefits society if a larger minority of them start pairing off in same-sex relationships, with the idea that will somewhat decrease birth rates, while allowing society to invest more resources into fewer offspring (e.g., the gay aunts or uncles who are more likely to be selfless resources for breeding siblings).
 
Mina said:
It's abnormal in the same sense that blue eyes, blonde hair, left-handedness, O-negative blood type, and chin dimples are abnormal. It's a character trait that the large majority of the population doesn't have. But so what?

I think it's probably wrong to consider is a birth defect, any more than we'd consider those other things birth defects. Homosexuals include some of the highest-functioning people in society.

I think it could even be understood to be an evolutionary advantage in an indirect way. It at least appears that homosexuality is more likely to manifest in contexts of denser populations. That's something that shows up with other kinds of latent genes in nature -- like grasshoppers can have certain genes switched on when raised in crowded settings that cause them to develop into locusts that then swarm. Well, maybe when lots of humans are living in an area, it benefits society if a larger minority of them start pairing off in same-sex relationships, with the idea that will somewhat decrease birth rates, while allowing society to invest more resources into fewer offspring (e.g., the gay aunts or uncles who are more likely to be selfless resources for breeding siblings).
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Agreed. Being Abnormal is not a reason to deprive people of their rights but that's exactly what the homophobes are pushing.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. Being Abnormal is not a reason to deprive people of their rights but that's exactly what the homophobes are pushing.
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And those who would go along with that should stop and remember that all of us are abnormal in countless ways. In fact, it would be abnormal not to be abnormal in a lot of ways. So, if someone will stand by and permit the persecution of a gay person for being abnormal, it could as easily be a left-handed person, or a short person, or a blonde, or someone with a stutter, next time.
 
Abnormal? They are gay because of how they were born. That is perfectly normal for them. Suggesting it is abnormal just means that are not a majority of society. Women are normal. men are not because men are only 47 percent of the population. Why do women tolerate them?
 
Nordberg said:
When you get married, you will have to buy a license. That is a legal and binding contract. If you think otherwise, when you get divorced the power of the state in marriage will be shown clearly to you. Gays buy the same license and are under the same powers. The law says it is a marriage. You say, for some stupid reason, that it is not. I think the law determines that not your atavistic beliefs.
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but obviously, its not like a real marriage.......
 
Nordberg said:
Abnormal? They are gay because of how they were born. That is perfectly normal for them. Suggesting it is abnormal just means that are not a majority of society. Women are normal. men are not because men are only 47 percent of the population. Why do women tolerate them?
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abnormality does not become normal just because it exists....
 
Mina said:
And those who would go along with that should stop and remember that all of us are abnormal in countless ways. In fact, it would be abnormal not to be abnormal in a lot of ways. So, if someone will stand by and permit the persecution of a gay person for being abnormal, it could as easily be a left-handed person, or a short person, or a blonde, or someone with a stutter, next time.
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Agreed. It's the whole point of teaching tolerance instead of pushing bigotry or bias as DeSantis is doing. My understanding that all of this anti-gay shit is primarily the work of Christina Pushaw. DeSantis would ride the wave of whatever is most popular on votes or brings in the most money.

https://theweek.com/ron-desantis/10...t-say-gay-bill-is-probably-a-groomer-desantis
Anyone who opposes Florida's 'Don't Say Gay' bill is 'probably a groomer,' DeSantis press secretary says
 
Mina said:
It's abnormal in the same sense that blue eyes, blonde hair, left-handedness, O-negative blood type, and chin dimples are abnormal. It's a character trait that the large majority of the population doesn't have. But so what?

I think it's probably wrong to consider is a birth defect, any more than we'd consider those other things birth defects. Homosexuals include some of the highest-functioning people in society.

I think it could even be understood to be an evolutionary advantage in an indirect way. It at least appears that homosexuality is more likely to manifest in contexts of denser populations. That's something that shows up with other kinds of latent genes in nature -- like grasshoppers can have certain genes switched on when raised in crowded settings that cause them to develop into locusts that then swarm. Well, maybe when lots of humans are living in an area, it benefits society if a larger minority of them start pairing off in same-sex relationships, with the idea that will somewhat decrease birth rates, while allowing society to invest more resources into fewer offspring (e.g., the gay aunts or uncles who are more likely to be selfless resources for breeding siblings).
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Interesting hypothesis.
 
Mina said:
It's abnormal in the same sense that blue eyes, blonde hair, left-handedness, O-negative blood type, and chin dimples are abnormal. It's a character trait that the large majority of the population doesn't have. But so what?

I think it's probably wrong to consider is a birth defect, any more than we'd consider those other things birth defects. Homosexuals include some of the highest-functioning people in society.

I think it could even be understood to be an evolutionary advantage in an indirect way. It at least appears that homosexuality is more likely to manifest in contexts of denser populations. That's something that shows up with other kinds of latent genes in nature -- like grasshoppers can have certain genes switched on when raised in crowded settings that cause them to develop into locusts that then swarm. Well, maybe when lots of humans are living in an area, it benefits society if a larger minority of them start pairing off in same-sex relationships, with the idea that will somewhat decrease birth rates, while allowing society to invest more resources into fewer offspring (e.g., the gay aunts or uncles who are more likely to be selfless resources for breeding siblings).
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Homosexuality is not an "evolutionary advantage". It is an unfruitful action. Reproduction is impossible via it.
 
gfm7175 said:
What specific rights are homosexuality practitioners being denied? Please enumerate a few of them for the forum.
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They were denied the Federal and state rights and benefits of marriage until 2015.

Rights and benefits assholes like yourself still seek to deny them.
 
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