How did Trump get to the top of the pack?

Trump has won the Republican nomination by betting against the Republican establishment's "no compromise no deals" agenda of the last 8 years.

While he is only getting 35% of the vote, it appears its enough to get him the Republican nomination and maybe the presidency.

Its entertaining to see Mr. Lets Make a Deal emerge as the Republicans likely nominee.
That it is! :)

I have to admit. I find the idea of an autocratic and egotistical corporate magnate like Trump pretty unpalatable. Particularly given some of the disgusting comments he's made and the fact that he has purposefully decided to attract a "least common denominator" as his constituency. I find that repugnant....but not nearly as scary as the idea of an ideological right wing fanatic who would with out doubt prove to be far more incompetent than W (which is saying a lot) like Ted Cruz.

In some respects Trump may be saving the GOP from something far worse. That being a Cruz nomination.
 
That it is! :)

I have to admit. I find the idea of an autocratic and egotistical corporate magnate like Trump pretty unpalatable. Particularly given some of the disgusting comments he's made and the fact that he has purposefully decided to attract a "least common denominator" as his constituency. I find that repugnant....but not nearly as scary as the idea of an ideological right wing fanatic who would with out doubt prove to be far more incompetent than W (which is saying a lot) like Ted Cruz.

In some respects Trump may be saving the GOP from something far worse. That being a Cruz nomination.

I would more readily bet on Cruz losing the General against HRC than I would Trump losing.

However, I relish an election where the Republican winning will do more damage to the Conservative Party than him losing.
 
I agree, the battle will be over women votes. I don't know how that will play out, but it will be interesting to see. I can see why women might be offended by both candidates.
All I know is that my wife is "meh" about all the candidates except one and that one makes her hair stand up on end cause she thinks he's a complete and total asshole based on his comments about immigrants and women. That would be Trump.

Personally I fear Ted Cruz far more than I do Trump. Trump is an egoistic populist and even if he wins he'll either have to moderate his positions drastically or he'll hang himself on his own petard. Cruz on the other hand is the kind of fanatic who could rationalize anything and the idea of a man with his serious character flaws sitting in the White House would more than likely create an existential crisis for this nation. Cruz is a far more dangerous man than Trump in other words. Fortunately Cruz is about as warm and cuddly and likeable as a porcupine with rabies. Not exactly the qualities of a person who needs to build a broad coalition and that's the one serious advantage Trump has over Cruz. Trump has a much broader coalition than Cruz does. Cruz essentially has the far right wing conservatives and that's about it.
 
All I know is that my wife is "meh" about all the candidates except one and that one makes her hair stand up on end cause she thinks he's a complete and total asshole. That would be Trump.

Personally I fear Ted Cruz far more than I do Trump. Trump is an egoistic populist and even if he wins he'll either have to moderate his positions drastically or he'll hang himself on his own petard. Cruz n the other hand is the kind of fanatic who could rationalize anything and the idea of a man with his serious character flaws sitting in the White House would more than likely create an existential crisis for this nation. Cruz is a far more dangerous man than Trump in other words.

Yes, if Cruz were the nominee I would be very concerned that HRC should win.

My wife also hates Trump, in fact, as I think about it, I don't personally know any women who support him. I know several men who do.

I know a couple (man-woman) that did support him until he made fun of the crippled reporter, they have a son with a similar issue.
 
I would more readily bet on Cruz losing the General against HRC than I would Trump losing.

However, I relish an election where the Republican winning will do more damage to the Conservative Party than him losing.
That's rather warped logic as such a scenario would mean ineffective and inept governance and would, both short term and long term, hurt our nation.
 
That's rather warped logic as such a scenario would mean ineffective and inept governance and would, both short term and long term, hurt our nation.

I'm not going to vote for him...

I think damage to the Conservative party would be good for our nation, they would be forced to evolve a bit and move forward. They have been digging their heals in and fighting forward movement too long now, its time they take a half step forward.
 
who took in the most money?


the tiny donation guy


the big money bought nothing


it go tossed in a hole


the old republican CEO party is dead


the democracy killed you evil fucks power
 
Trump has alienated Black people, Hispanic people, immigrants and the handicapped.

How many more before he cant build a coalition of 50%. Given enough time I suspect he will find some more groups to alienate.
 
trump will own the whole thing soon.



republican party owners are learning you do need voters



you cant just buy and cheat your way to power here
 
Several reasons, of course. Not any one thing.

1. Marketing: Elections are ALL about marketing, whether on TV, Radio or personal appearances. Trump has dominated the slogan battle. Every time he says "Make America Great Again" his over-capacity crowds chant USA USA USA USA. That's powerful.

No question about that. Trump and his marketing team are master manipulators, especially of the stupid.

2. Lack of apology: Trump has said many things that have shocked the Establishment in both parties. He has doubled down, dug in his heels and told the critics to fuck off. He would have been GONE the first time he copped out and apologized.

I am sick to death of hearing celebrities (and let's face it, Donald J. Trump is a celebrity and not any kind of politician), say something vile and then apologize for it as if the apology simply wipes the slate clean. It doesn't. You said it, you should own it and deal with the consequences, except that Trump supporters are too stupid to hold him accountable for any of the things he does.

3. He's believable: Look at his rallies. They are pure performances of stream of consciousness. Livingston Taylor once said that a performance is a conversation between the performer and the audience. During a Trump rally, it's as if he's speaking to everyone personally. No teleprompters, no canned speeches. Nothing slick and rehearsed. Just words from the heart. They resonate.

I nearly pissed myself with this one. He's believable? The only thing he actually is would be untrustworthy. He has uttered, reiterated, doubled-down on and stood behind so many of his own lies that I think he may actually believe him. To a thinking person, how he says what he says is absolutely not as important as what he actually says. But his supporters don't think, they don't check facts, and when the truth is given to them they refuse to accept it. The only thing believable about Donald J. Trump is that he is a liar and you can't believe anything he says.

4. He has either picked the very and most important issues of the campaign or has created them: Illegal immigration, China Trade Policy, protecting the Second Amendment, caring for our wounded veterans, expanding the economy. He leads in ALL those categories, and in all polls he has the highest numbers of all the candidates in the category of leadership.

Actually, he's picked not the important issues but the issues he knows will fire people up - ones that radicalized right-wing extremists have been tub-thumping on about for years. Trump may lead in all of those categories, but he didn't pick them because he knows (or cares) anything about them, and I rather doubt he picked them himself. I think it's more likely his strategy team picked them and told him "Here are the hot-button issues for radical fanatics who don't check facts. GO!"

5. He has not run away from the media. He has gone on every TV and radio show possible, allowed himself to be poked fun at and ridiculed. He has become such a media darling that they have to have him because of the ratings. For that reason, the media has become Trump's bitch. Oh, and during his rallies he continues to refer to the media as dishonest. That resonates. He is now immune from the left wing media, AND the Conservative establishment media.

He definitely runs to the media because again, it's marketing and manipulation. If Trump knows anything, it's about branding. He's running on a brand, not real issues or any ability to do anything about them or with any real knowledge of them. And of course, he refers to the media as dishonest while being one of the most dishonest people on the face of the planet.

6. He is the most powerful figure in this race. His eight billion dollar company and his association with world leaders and political donors has given him more power than any candidate in the history of America.

Wait, wait. Political donors? But I thought Trump didn't NEED donors (which of course explains why there's not one but two "Donate" buttons on the first page of his website).

7. He has not made this race about ideology. This is driving the THE VIEW libs and the Rush Limbaughs batshit crazy. He has not made this about liberal versus conservative. Republicans ALWAYS lose that battle, mostly because they don't have the balls to follow up and because the media is in control. Trump has made this race about competency, and he has attacked Republicans as well as Democrats. And he was right. Both parties have sold us down the river.

He hasn't, you're correct. It's not Liberal v Conservative, Socialist v Capitalist. But oddly enough, what he's managed to pick up is the "batshit crazy" out there who are willing to blindly follow someone without thinking to check a single thing he says.

8. He claims to be self funding the race. And he has spent the least amount of money.

Trump says he's self-funding, but in fact he has loaned his campaign $17 million, which his campaign can repay him up until the Republican National Convention. Out of his own pocket, he has GIVEN (not loaned) $250,000.00. And he's also taken $7.5 million dollars in individual donations from the general public.

He also reimburses his company for things like office space and his campaign headquarters at Trump Towers (in other words, he pays himself for renting his own space) through in-kind contributions from the campaign to the company.

His campaign uses TAG Air for Trump to fly from place to place. TAG Air is owned by Trump. So he pays himself to use his own company for airfare.

So yeah, he's self-funding by loaning himself money he'll pay himself back, paying himself for rent he pays, and collecting millions in small donations.
 
That it is! :)

I have to admit. I find the idea of an autocratic and egotistical corporate magnate like Trump pretty unpalatable. Particularly given some of the disgusting comments he's made and the fact that he has purposefully decided to attract a "least common denominator" as his constituency. I find that repugnant....but not nearly as scary as the idea of an ideological right wing fanatic who would with out doubt prove to be far more incompetent than W (which is saying a lot) like Ted Cruz.

In some respects Trump may be saving the GOP from something far worse. That being a Cruz nomination.

You really think that about him? I think Cruz is actually very inspiring especially with his focus on returning the country to a constitution based focus along with strengthening our good American values. I was proud to vote for him yesterday and am praying that he continues to do well in the future primaries.
 
he is a con man


you are a tiny minority


democracy will keep mankind from being as gullible as you
 
You really think that about him? I think Cruz is actually very inspiring especially with his focus on returning the country to a constitution based focus along with strengthening our good American values. I was proud to vote for him yesterday and am praying that he continues to do well in the future primaries.

I believe that when Cruz talks about "returning the country to a constitution based focus" what he really means is, using the Constitution to put his particular version of Christian values ahead of others, which to me is particularly unconstitutional.
 
I believe that when Cruz talks about "returning the country to a constitution based focus" what he really means is, using the Constitution to put his particular version of Christian values ahead of others, which to me is particularly unconstitutional.

Except he has never said he would do that or really even hinted at it. He's talked more about religious liberty than he has religious oppression.
 
Several reasons, of course. Not any one thing.

1. Marketing: Elections are ALL about marketing,

The Donald’s marketing strategy is to puke insults and get TV face time.

2. Lack of apology: Trump has said many things that have shocked the Establishment in both parties.

And drawn every non-thinking moron out of the closet who are incapable of distinguishing puking insults from tough leadership.

3. He's believable:

Only to morons! Mussolini, Hitler and Stalin were all “believable” to the assholes who loved BIG government authoritarianism.


4. He has either picked the very and most important issues of the campaign or has created them:

His so-called Issues are the same shit Hitler used to swindle the morons. Hitler blamed the Jews, Trump blames China, Mexico and illegal immigrants who either want to work for a living, or suck the American welfare system that The Donald promotes. He loves the unconstitutional leftist BIG government Social Security system and wants to preserve it and he favors a leftist BIG government Single Payer health care plan.

Illegal immigration, China Trade Policy, protecting the Second Amendment,

He was for more gun control when he was a lifelong Democrat and only now pukes loyalty to the 2nd amendment to get the idiot Republican’s nomination.


5. He has not run away from the media.

Bullshit! The coward ran and hid from Megyn Kelly.


6. He is the most powerful figure in this race.

He’s the BIGGEST bullshitter, flip-flopper and liar in the race equal to Hillary Clinton.

7. He has not made this race about ideology.

Bullshit again! His ideology is to bullshit, flip-flop and lie and insult people and control media face time.


8. He claims to be self funding the race. And he has spent the least amount of money.

The clueless media is paying for his campaign with free face time. It’s sickening, absurd, pathetic and very sad.
 
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