How Long Will The Shutdown Last.

A one year extension of the Affordable Care Act subsidies would be a clean continuing resolution, because health insurance is bought one year at a time. Republicans are offering a cancellation of the Affordable Care Act subsidies, for a one month continuing resolution. So Democrats give up something very important to them, just to not have the government shutdown for a month. Then a month from now, Republicans demand something else important to not shutdown the government for another month.

As far as I know, Democrats haven't given up anything. They want health care to continue as it is. The republicans don't want that. The republicans say, "Pass it, and we can discuss it after the government reopens." Which is bullshit. And the Democrats know it.
 
Nobody said it was a law. It is a law that the president has to propose the budget, and that is legally the beginning of the budget process. trump is just no good at starting budget processes.


Democrats tend to do better than Republicans, but yes, there is a major problem with getting it done on time. There is usually a need for continuing resolutions...

And lots of last second negotiations. Which is what is different this time. trump has refused to negotiate, and instead showed insulting computer generated videos. Republicans on this board have said how proud they are that trump rather than leading has decided to act like a troll. Now Republicans have fled DC to block any negotiation.

What is all this bullshit deflection about a presidents budget proposal or how long it takes congress to act on it. Trump's big ugly bill has been voted into law by Congress. So all that stuff is in the past. The Democrats are trying to do everything they can to keep health care for around 15 million Americans from disappearing. And lately it seems to keep the cost of health care insurance from rising above what most people can pay.
 
again, you simply lie


This is a clean CR. You can't even be honest about one thing here

"House Passes?" The last I heard, Congress is shut down. Democrats are showing up. Republicans aren't. With no republicans around, how can anything pass.
 
"House Passes?" The last I heard, Congress is shut down. Democrats are showing up. Republicans aren't. With no republicans around, how can anything pass.

September 19, 2025 was the date.

Congress is not shut down, and there have been 10 votes on passing a CR in recent days.


Read my thread and find out. And if you still don't believe it, look it up for yourself.

I didn't suppose you could back up your claims, and it appears my skepticism was justified.
 
Are you kidding? He has proposed a budget. His big ugly bill. Democrats, rightly so, aren't going along with it.


No, the "Big Beautiful Bill" (officially the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, or OBBBA) was not the president's budget proposal. The president's budget proposal is an annual document submitted to Congress by the White House's Office of Management and Budget (OMB) in early spring, outlining the administration's fiscal priorities, revenue estimates, and spending recommendations for the upcoming year. For fiscal year 2026, this would have been released around March 2025.In contrast, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act was a comprehensive reconciliation bill passed by the 119th Congress and signed into law by President Trump on July 4, 2025. It bundled key elements of Trump's second-term agenda, including permanent extensions of 2017 tax cuts (costing about $4.46 trillion over 10 years), spending cuts to programs like Medicaid and SNAP (saving $1.4 trillion), new investments in border security and military ($325 billion), and other policies like "Trump Accounts" for newborns and repeals of clean energy credits. This bill was developed through the congressional budget reconciliation process to bypass Senate filibuster rules, with House Republicans marking it up in committees starting in April 2025.While the OBBBA included fiscal elements that aligned with Trump's broader spending and revenue goals—such as $1.7 trillion in mandatory savings—it was a standalone legislative package enacted by Congress, not the executive branch's formal budget blueprint.
 
you use retard words. It was designed to sunset. It isn't being cancelled. It sunsets. By democrats choice. They chose to lie about how it was temporary. Now you refuse to allow the agreed to legislation to do as it was voted on.

To extend it would not be a clean CR - it would require a change to previously agreed to budgets - hence not clean.

That you feel so at ease being this kind of liar and bullshit artist amazes me

If you are talking about Trump's big ugly bill, no democrat supported it. But it passed because the republicans hold the majority in both the house and senate. The democrats are trying to do what they can about Trump's big ugly bill from gutting medical coverage for millions. All in the name of giving big tax breaks to the wealthy who don't need them.
 
If you are talking about Trump's big ugly bill, no democrat supported it. But it passed because the republicans hold the majority in both the house and senate. The democrats are trying to do what they can about Trump's big ugly bill from gutting medical coverage for millions. All in the name of giving big tax breaks to the wealthy who don't need them.


The enhanced subsidies for Affordable Care Act (ACA) Marketplace health insurance plans—commonly referred to as premium tax credits—were originally enacted as temporary measures to provide pandemic relief. They were first introduced in the American Rescue Plan Act (ARP) of 2021, which expanded eligibility beyond the ACA's original income limits (up to 400% of the federal poverty level) and increased the subsidy amounts to cap premium costs at a lower percentage of household income (as low as 0% for those earning up to 150% of the poverty level). These changes were designed to make coverage more affordable during the COVID-19 crisis, boosting enrollment from about 12 million in 2021 to a record 24 million in 2025.

Congress later extended the enhancements through the end of 2025 via the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) of 2022, tying the expiration explicitly to December 31, 2025. The sunset date aligns with the calendar-year structure of ACA Marketplace plans, allowing the subsidies to remain in effect for the full 2025 plan year (which begins January 1, 2025) before reverting to the pre-2021 ACA subsidy formula on January 1, 2026.
 
No, the "Big Beautiful Bill" (officially the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, or OBBBA) was not the president's budget proposal. The president's budget proposal is an annual document submitted to Congress by the White House's Office of Management and Budget (OMB) in early spring, outlining the administration's fiscal priorities, revenue estimates, and spending recommendations for the upcoming year. For fiscal year 2026, this would have been released around March 2025.In contrast, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act was a comprehensive reconciliation bill passed by the 119th Congress and signed into law by President Trump on July 4, 2025. It bundled key elements of Trump's second-term agenda, including permanent extensions of 2017 tax cuts (costing about $4.46 trillion over 10 years), spending cuts to programs like Medicaid and SNAP (saving $1.4 trillion), new investments in border security and military ($325 billion), and other policies like "Trump Accounts" for newborns and repeals of clean energy credits. This bill was developed through the congressional budget reconciliation process to bypass Senate filibuster rules, with House Republicans marking it up in committees starting in April 2025.While the OBBBA included fiscal elements that aligned with Trump's broader spending and revenue goals—such as $1.7 trillion in mandatory savings—it was a standalone legislative package enacted by Congress, not the executive branch's formal budget blueprint.

What is in the "big beautiful bill" is there by the president's commands. It is all part of that "Project 2025" bullshit. Nothing in that bill did republicans come up with on their own.
 
What is in the "big beautiful bill" is there by the president's commands. It is all part of that "Project 2025" bullshit. Nothing in that bill did republicans come up with on their own.


So you say.

Prove it.

Naturally, I'll understand if you can't.
 
Legina believes the same. Weird, eh?

I don't know what you're getting at. I am me, not Legina. (Whoever that is) And anything that needed to be clarified by some asshole wasn't brought up by "Legina." It was brought up by me. So, why are you being such an asshole. I thought you didn't like Trump.
 
NC just announced SNAP benefits will not be available in Nov due to shutdown

SNAP benefits could be late, or lower, due to government shutdown, North Carolina says​

The federal government sent the state a letter that said benefits could be disrupted or not issued in the typical amount if the government shutdown persists.



In a letter to state agencies dated Oct. 10, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) said there will not be enough funding to pay the entirety of November SNAP benefits if the shutdown continues.

"If the current lapse in appropriations continues, there will be insufficient funds to pay full November SNAP benefits for approximately 42 million individuals across the Nation," reads the letter, which was signed by SNAP development director Sasha Gersten-Paal and provided to USA TODAY by the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services (NCDHHS).

 
NC just announced SNAP benefits will not be available in Nov due to shutdown

SNAP benefits could be late, or lower, due to government shutdown, North Carolina says​

The federal government sent the state a letter that said benefits could be disrupted or not issued in the typical amount if the government shutdown persists.




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