How Long Will The Shutdown Last.

I don't know what you're getting at. I am me, not Legina. (Whoever that is) And anything that needed to be clarified by some asshole wasn't brought up by "Legina." It was brought up by me. So, why are you being such an asshole. I thought you didn't like Trump.
No need to get excited, HL. Legina is @Diogenes , @Legion , @Lionfish and a host of other pseudonyms. S/he has a very special relationship with management which goes back to the origin of the forum.
 
NC just announced SNAP benefits will not be available in Nov due to shutdown

SNAP benefits could be late, or lower, due to government shutdown, North Carolina says​

The federal government sent the state a letter that said benefits could be disrupted or not issued in the typical amount if the government shutdown persists.



In a letter to state agencies dated Oct. 10, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) said there will not be enough funding to pay the entirety of November SNAP benefits if the shutdown continues.

"If the current lapse in appropriations continues, there will be insufficient funds to pay full November SNAP benefits for approximately 42 million individuals across the Nation," reads the letter, which was signed by SNAP development director Sasha Gersten-Paal and provided to USA TODAY by the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services (NCDHHS).

MAGAts love to take food out of the mouth of babes in order to line their own pockets. Sad

They are truly evil people who need to be taken down without mercy.

Better to be peaceful:

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As far as I know, Democrats haven't given up anything. They want health care to continue as it is. The republicans don't want that. The republicans say, "Pass it, and we can discuss it after the government reopens." Which is bullshit. And the Democrats know it.
Nor should Democrats. They are being told they have to give up health insurance for 22 million Americans, and in return they will get one more month of government funding. Then the Republicans will make further insane demands to keep the government open for another month. At that rate by the time we have a new Congress, no one would have health coverage.

I would not support giving up health insurance for 22 million Americans for a year of budget, but certainly not for a month. Republicans have massively over demanded. There is no way Democrats can agree to such an insane demand.
 
The enhanced subsidies for Affordable Care Act (ACA) Marketplace health insurance plans—commonly referred to as premium tax credits—were originally enacted as temporary measures to provide pandemic relief. They were first introduced in the American Rescue Plan Act (ARP) of 2021, which expanded eligibility beyond the ACA's original income limits (up to 400% of the federal poverty level) and increased the subsidy amounts to cap premium costs at a lower percentage of household income (as low as 0% for those earning up to 150% of the poverty level). These changes were designed to make coverage more affordable during the COVID-19 crisis, boosting enrollment from about 12 million in 2021 to a record 24 million in 2025.

Congress later extended the enhancements through the end of 2025 via the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) of 2022, tying the expiration explicitly to December 31, 2025. The sunset date aligns with the calendar-year structure of ACA Marketplace plans, allowing the subsidies to remain in effect for the full 2025 plan year (which begins January 1, 2025) before reverting to the pre-2021 ACA subsidy formula on January 1, 2026.

Why do you talk nonsense. Your doubletalk about the fine print is almost as bad as legalese. This is what matters. In looking it up, there are a few different numbers out there. One part says that insurers are proposing an 18% increase in premiums for 2026. Though in another part it says the expiration of whatever kinds of credits will lead to an out of pocket premium payment increase of over 75%. With some individuals facing premium increases of over 400%!
 
Why do you talk nonsense. Your doubletalk about the fine print is almost as bad as legalese. This is what matters. In looking it up, there are a few different numbers out there. One part says that insurers are proposing an 18% increase in premiums for 2026. Though in another part it says the expiration of whatever kinds of credits will lead to an out of pocket premium payment increase of over 75%. With some individuals facing premium increases of over 400%!


Democrats passed the ACA. If it's not affordable without massive subsidies, take it up with the Democrats.

Democrats passed both bills specifying the expiry date of ACA subsidies. If you don't like the fact that they are set to expire, take it up with the Democrats.
 
trump used budget reconciliation to force it down everyone's throat, but did not have the guts to put the actual budget in it. So now the government is shutting down.


Sigh.

President Trump submitted the initial "skinny" version of his FY 2026 discretionary budget request to Congress on May 2, 2025, as confirmed by the Congressional Research Service. A more detailed full budget followed on May 30, 2025.

The OBBA ws not a budget proposal, and it passed Congress on July 4, 2025.
 
So you say.

Prove it.

Naturally, I'll understand if you can't.

Prove what. The goals of project 2025? To what degree the president went along with what it proposed? The degree to which the president told republicans what should be included in their big ugly bill? To what degree some republicans themselves decided what should end up in that bill? You ask for proof of nonsense. But here are a couple things I can tell you for sure. The president appointed a whole shitload of unqualified assholes to be the heads of important government agencies. And when the president tells any republican to jump, they ask, "How High!"
 
Dont know, my crystal ball is at the repair shop, but the vibe I get on my grapevine is that it will go at least a month, and will be hugely damaging for the nation and the empire.

As the elites are already in a panic about the collapse of the Empire, and as the nation is at least as dysfunctional as it was just before the Civil War.
 
trump used budget reconciliation to force it down everyone's throat, but did not have the guts to put the actual budget in it. So now the government is shutting down.

I don't understand. How were Democrats in Congress to "reconcile" something if they didn't even know what they were reconciling.
 
Democrats passed the ACA. If it's not affordable without massive subsidies, take it up with the Democrats.

Democrats passed both bills specifying the expiry date of ACA subsidies. If you don't like the fact that they are set to expire, take it up with the Democrats.

I don't have to take anything up with Democrats. They are making themselves clear enough. They are showing up to Congress to do their jobs. Which includes not seeing health care slashed in this country. The republicans refuse to show up.
 
Dont know, my crystal ball is at the repair shop, but the vibe I get on my grapevine is that it will go at least a month, and will be hugely damaging for the nation and the empire.

As the elites are already in a panic about the collapse of the Empire, and as the nation is at least as dysfunctional as it was just before the Civil War.

True. But here's the REAL KICKER! Whatever happens to the government as far as how long it is shut down doesn't matter to the wealthy. They can afford to ride out any storm.
 
True. But here's the REAL KICKER! Whatever happens to the government as far as how long it is shut down doesn't matter to the wealthy. They can afford to ride out any storm.
True....and there might be something to the claim that these same oligarchs are destroying the economies of the West on purpose so that they can impose digital currencies on us....digitally enslave us.
 
What is in the "big beautiful bill" is there by the president's commands. It is all part of that "Project 2025" bullshit. Nothing in that bill did republicans come up with on their own.

That's an article from February, and it's about EOs.

Nothing in that screed mentions the OBBA.

Show me the proof that "what is in the "big beautiful bill" is there by the president's commands.

Show me evidence that "It is all part of that Project 2025".

Prove your claim that "Nothing in that bill did republicans come up with on their own".

Hop to it!


 
COVID was the most major wealth transfer to the wealthy in human history.

Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.

What you say is true. But with that being the case, why in the hell are Trump and republicans so hell bent on giving tax breaks to the wealthy. Don't they already have enough?
 
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