How much has Obamacare saved the American people?

Truth Detector said:
Clearly I did; but you will continue stomping your little feet and whining like a pathetic low IQ dunce. :laugh:
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I know it's hard to swallow your pride and admit your reading difficulties, but if you can bring yourself to ask for help, it will be the first step into a brighter world.
 
Oneuli said:
I know it's hard to swallow your pride and admit your reading difficulties, but if you can bring yourself to ask for help, it will be the first step into a brighter world.
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What I know is that you are having a very tough time figuring out what "savings" means and that $350 is not greater than $450. :laugh:

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Oneuli said:
I've never said a word about $350 being greater than $450. You misunderstood. Try rereading, dumb dumb.
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That is exactly what you are trying to do snowflake; but no matter how much you cry, stomp your little feet and flail, $350 is NOT > $450. :laugh:
 
Truth Detector said:
you were desperately trying to explain how $350 is actually > $450.
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There are two possibilities here: (1) You know I never tried to say anything of the sort, but you enjoy dishonest trolling, because you know it's the only contribution you're capable of making to the forum, or (2) you're being honest, and you really are so unspeakably stupid that you genuinely misread what I wrote that badly. Only you know for sure which is the case, but my bet is number one. Someone stupid enough to fall into the second category probably couldn't have mastered the English language even to the very minimal extent you demonstrate.
 
Oneuli said:
There are two possibilities here: (1) You know I never tried to say anything of the sort, but you enjoy dishonest trolling, because you know it's the only contribution you're capable of making to the forum, or (2) you're being honest, and you really are so unspeakably stupid that you genuinely misread what I wrote that badly. Only you know for sure which is the case, but my bet is number one. Someone stupid enough to fall into the second category probably couldn't have mastered the English language even to the very minimal extent you demonstrate.
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There is only ONE possibility snowflake; the FACT that you're an idiot and think people who spent more, saved money. Now that is DUMB.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
you tried to make that claim......it wasn't true
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What makes you think that? Hint: "it would make me feel bad if it were so" is not an acceptable answer. I'd like you to be specific and substantive. The measure for healthcare inflation is the consumer price index for medical care (CPIMEDSL). You can find it here:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CPIMEDSL

As you can see, the index stood at 385.712 in March 2010, when Obamacare passed into law. As you can also see, it stood at 487.664 in November 2018, which was the most recent month on record. So, that's a rise of 26.43%.

Before Obamacare passed, there'd been exactly 655 periods on record of that length. Of those 655, how many had 26.43% healthcare inflation or less?

The answer: Zero. Before Obamacare passed, the lowest healthcare inflation on record for a period of this length was 29.95%, in the period leading up to February of 1966. The highest was 137.10%, ending in the early 1980s.

So, if, as you can confirm with my link, we have no record of healthcare inflation ever being as low for as long as it's been since Obamacare passed, in what sense is what I said untrue? Be specific, please.

Look, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking "I wasn't aware there would be math on this test." Don't worry, the math is easy. I'm not even asking that you annualized rates. Just calculate the percentage. It's easy as can be. Take the second number, subtract the first, divided by the first, and multiply by 100. Simple.

Now, I know what you're thinking next. You're thinking, "I don't want to do the math, because I know it'll prove she's right and I'm an asshole for having pretended what she said wasn't true -- maybe I can change the subject or sidetrack her with a personal insult and get away with the last few scraps of my dignity." Please, resist the urge. Don't cower from the challenge. Take a look at the data and answer with honor: does it support my claim or not?
 
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Truth Detector said:
Have you considered the FACT that you are dishonest partisan hack on steroids?
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As you know, I'm not. If I were dishonest, you'd be able to identify something I've said that is untrue. Yet, in 40 pages of discussion, where you've weighed in dozens of times, you've yet to be able to find a single untrue thing I've said, reducing you to generic personal insults in lieu of an argument. You know I'm right and you're wrong, and it's killing you. Your rage and creeping heart disease is being thoroughly enjoyed. Now go chew an aspirin before you stroke out.
 
Oneuli said:
As you know, I'm not. If I were dishonest, you'd be able to identify something I've said that is untrue. Yet, in 40 pages of discussion, where you've weighed in dozens of times, you've yet to be able to find a single untrue thing I've said, reducing you to generic personal insults in lieu of an argument. You know I'm right and you're wrong, and it's killing you. Your rage and creeping heart disease is being thoroughly enjoyed. Now go chew an aspirin before you stroke out.
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The only reason you don't know what a dishonest, deceitful dumbass you really are is that you lack the intelligence to comprehend the OBVIOUS snowflake.

Trying to suggest that people who are actually spending MORE on healthcare are actually SAVING money is not merely stupid; it is dishonest and laughably insane. :laugh:
 
Oneuli said:
What makes you think that? Hint: "it would make me feel bad if it were so" is not an acceptable answer. I'd like you to be specific and substantive. The measure for healthcare inflation is the consumer price index for medical care (CPIMEDSL). You can find it here:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CPIMEDSL

As you can see, the index stood at 385.712 in March 2010, when Obamacare passed into law. As you can also see, it stood at 487.664 in November 2018, which was the most recent month on record. So, that's a rise of 26.43%.

Before Obamacare passed, there'd been exactly 655 periods on record of that length. Of those 655, how many had 26.43% healthcare inflation or less?

The answer: Zero. Before Obamacare passed, the lowest healthcare inflation on record for a period of this length was 29.95%, in the period leading up to February of 1966. The highest was 137.10%, ending in the early 1980s.

So, if, as you can confirm with my link, we have no record of healthcare inflation ever being as low for as long as it's been since Obamacare passed, in what sense is what I said untrue? Be specific, please.

Look, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking "I wasn't aware there would be math on this test." Don't worry, the math is easy. I'm not even asking that you annualized rates. Just calculate the percentage. It's easy as can be. Take the second number, subtract the first, divided by the first, and multiply by 100. Simple.

Now, I know what you're thinking next. You're thinking, "I don't want to do the math, because I know it'll prove she's right and I'm an asshole for having pretended what she said wasn't true -- maybe I can change the subject or sidetrack her with a personal insult and get away with the last few scraps of my dignity." Please, resist the urge. Don't cower from the challenge. Take a look at the data and answer with honor: does it support my claim or not?
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There she blows again; the moron analogy suggesting that even though you are actually spending more doesn't mean you really are; you are actually saving. :laugh:
 
Truth Detector said:
The only reason you don't know what a dishonest, deceitful dumbass you really are is that you lack the intelligence to comprehend the OBVIOUS snowflake.

Trying to suggest that people who are actually spending MORE on healthcare are actually SAVING money is not merely stupid; it is dishonest and laughably insane. :laugh:
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As you're aware, there's nothing dishonest about my argument. I made it clear from the start that the savings I was talking about were relative to any reasonable projection of what people would have been spending if not for the change to our healthcare system. That's why you had to go with a dishonest rebuttal and pretend I said $350 was more then $450. You knew my actual point was factually accurate, and you could find no problem with my reasoning, so you merely lied about what I said and attacked that instead. That's why you're generally regarded as not only as having the lowest IQ in the forum, but as a bad person, as well.
 
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