How much has Obamacare saved the American people?

Getin the ring said:
you are a lost soul, void of any reality
what is the difference between a debt and a deficit?
really, Miss Clown shoes , one is meaningless when you allow the country to sink into 20 trillion in debt, I'll let you figure out which one


I don't know what else to say, you ignore every argument presented to you, while claiming you don't.

really hard to have a conversation with a troll, so

IM DONE
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Good! You contribute precious little to any thread, and that little is dreck.
 
Oneuli said:
As you're aware, there's nothing dishonest about my argument. I made it clear from the start that the savings I was talking about were relative to any reasonable projection of what people would have been spending if not for the change to our healthcare system. That's why you had to go with a dishonest rebuttal and pretend I said $350 was more then $450. You knew my actual point was factually accurate, and you could find no problem with my reasoning, so you merely lied about what I said and attacked that instead. That's why you're generally regarded as not only as having the lowest IQ in the forum, but as a bad person, as well.
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The whole thread was a pile of dishonest and stupid. But alas, you would have to have a brain to comprehend the OBVIOUS. :laugh:
 
christiefan915 said:
Good! You contribute precious little to any thread, and that little is dreck.
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STFU you brain dead hypocrite on steroids. Katzgar contributes what? Nomad? Evince? Domer? Rune? Zappas?

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PostmodernProphet said:
the only ones who's premiums went down were people who had the federal government subsudizing their premiums.......taxpayers paid higher premiums and will pay higher taxes.......
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You haven't proved it any more than nut-bag did. You would have to inquire of every person in America who has health insurance whether their premiums went up, down or stayed the same. I'm certain that if I googled the question and got positive responses about lower premiums, you would dismiss them.
 
Truth Detector said:
The whole thread was a pile of dishonest and stupid.
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I suppose that "stupid" is in the eye of the beholder. But dishonest is a more objective thing. Either the facts I presented were true or they weren't. As you know (since you've gone 41 pages without being able to find a single false statement by me), I presented the facts honestly. You can whine all day about the inferences I drew from those facts, but you know perfectly well there was nothing dishonest in my argument.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
it did not account for the taxpayer share of medical expenses........
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It did. Health care inflation calculations include all spending on healthcare, regardless of whether financing comes out-of-pocket, from insurers, or from the government. What made you think otherwise? Be specific, please.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
there is nothing honest in it.......
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Then step up and point out any fact I presented inaccurately. As you're well aware, you've been deeply dishonest throughout this thread. Most recently, you asserted that the healthcare inflation calculation did not account for the taxpayer share of medical expenses. You know perfectly well that you had no reason to believe that, at the time you wrote it. You just figured that if it were true it would help you argument, so you wrote it, in complete disregard for whether or not it was actually true. Such dishonesty disgraces you, and is the reason nobody in your life respects you. But, as you've seen in this thread, I'm just not that way. When I make a statement of fact, it's because I've first done the due diligence to see if it is actually a fact, before I share it. Such honesty may be hurtful to you, because it flies in the face of your prejudices. But you know quite well I have been scrupulously honest.
 
Oneuli said:
Then step up and point out any fact I presented inaccurately. As you're well aware, you've been deeply dishonest throughout this thread. Most recently, you asserted that the healthcare inflation calculation did not account for the taxpayer share of medical expenses. You know perfectly well that you had no reason to believe that, at the time you wrote it. You just figured that if it were true it would help you argument, so you wrote it, in complete disregard for whether or not it was actually true. Such dishonesty disgraces you, and is the reason nobody in your life respects you. But, as you've seen in this thread, I'm just not that way. When I make a statement of fact, it's because I've first done the due diligence to see if it is actually a fact, before I share it. Such honesty may be hurtful to you, because it flies in the face of your prejudices. But you know quite well I have been scrupulously honest.
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You're a LIAR !
 
Loving91390 said:
You're a LIAR !
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Then step up and point out any fact I presented inaccurately.

Right-wingers are trying hard to remake the English language. Now "fake news" means "real events that should not be reported because they're inconvenient for Republicans." And "Liar" means "someone who speaks truths that hurt right-wing feelings.

Sorry, Big Brother, but your Newspeak isn't for me. When I call someone a liar, I have the goods to back it up: I can point to specific things the person said that were incorrect, and I can explain why we can conclude she knew they were incorrect or said them with reckless disregard for whether they were true. "Liar" is a serious charge, and I'm a serious person who doesn't throw it around lightly. You, on the other hand, are a person without honor or any kind of morality, and so you will level that charge knowing full well you are unable to point to a single factual inaccuracy in what the person said. Your type is beneath contempt.
 
Loving91390 said:
This entire thread proves you are a LIAR !
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Conservatives have been lying about the ACA from the start.

The most hilarious of these lies being the misrepresentation of what Pelosi said.

She said "we have to pass it so you know what's in it, outside the fog of controversy"

By leaving the second part of her statement out, you end up proving her entire statement true.

Conservatives are traitors who sold out to Russia just to get Trump elected.

Because of that, their lifeboats have been set ablaze.
 
Oneuli said:
It did. Health care inflation calculations include all spending on healthcare, regardless of whether financing comes out-of-pocket, from insurers, or from the government. What made you think otherwise? Be specific, please.
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I asked you to prove it and you haven't done it yet.....obviously that made me think otherwise......I can give you a second chance if you like.......
 
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