How to counter right-wing armed groups in the United States

[Port Tack]

inflation is sourced in fuel costs, just as it was when Carter was president........prices started to climb as soon as Biden shut down the oil industry in January 2021.......oil prices began to drop as soon as he announced reopening lease sales.......the same thing happened under Bush (down) and under Obama.(up)......if you make speculation risky prices go down......

Biden signed more leases in his first year than Trump did in his first three. Oil production in the US will soon be greater than anything under Trump. Not only oil but natural gas production will set all time records this year under Biden while the right wing idiot claims he is against oil production. Biden never shut anything down, the pandemic, demand and prices dropping to $19 a barrel is what temporarily shut down our oil production. It had nothing to do with Biden. Just as when the demand returned and oil shot up to over $100 per barrel our oil production shot back up to record levels. It also had nothing to do with Biden. We would have seen the exact same phenomenon regardless of who was president.

The U.S. oil industry is gushing, with record production expected in 2023
Domestic production will rise to 12.6 million barrels daily in 2023, or 600,000 more barrels than in 2022, the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) forecast this week. That would surpass the previous record production of 12.2 million barrels in 2019.(Under Trump)
The increase in 2023 shows a recovery in oil pumping from the massive decline early on during the COVID-19 pandemic, when oil prices dropped below $19. Crude oil is currently at around $91 a barrel.

U.S. Natural Gas Production Hit An All-Time High In 2021
In 2021, the U.S. set a new all-time high for natural gas production. For the year, the U.S. held a commanding 23.1% share of global natural gas production, ahead of Russia (17.4%) and even the entire Middle East (17.7%).
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/US-Natural-Gas-Production-Hit-An-All-Time-High-In-2021.html

The right wing is looking pretty fucking stupid complaining that Biden is horrible for fossil fuel production when he is setting all time records for the production of all of them.

 

[Port Tack]

Ummmm.....more than a few LWers have threatened harm to political rivals although I don't recall any on JPP.

Agreed in irrationality. The older, Euro-American male members of JPP also tend to have mental disorders. Usually fear of dying and dementia, but a few are really psycho. They are, indeed, irrational and can't be reasoned with. That said, there's a few irrational LWers too. Ask me in PM if you want names but I think you can figure out who they are.

Patience is a virtue. Many will be gone before they are dead, simply because their capacity to participate has deteriorated so much they will become living zombies.

You are full of shit. Every fucking whacko threatening violence today is a right wing extremist. The FBI has come out saying the greatest threat today is not from those outside our country it's right wing extremists right here at home. I hope that shithead from SC is right and they indict the Velveeta man and we have riots in the streets, it's time we put more of them in prison and show the rest of the country how fucked up the right has become under their wannabe Fuhrer.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Biden signed more leases in his first year than Trump did in his first three. Oil production in the US will soon be greater than anything under Trump. Not only oil but natural gas production will set all time records this year under Biden while the right wing idiot claims he is against oil production. Biden never shut anything down, the pandemic, demand and prices dropping to $19 a barrel is what temporarily shut down our oil production. It had nothing to do with Biden. Just as when the demand returned and oil shot up to over $100 per barrel our oil production shot back up to record levels. It also had nothing to do with Biden. We would have seen the exact same phenomenon regardless of who was president.





The right wing is looking pretty fucking stupid complaining that Biden is horrible for fossil fuel production when he is setting all time records for the production of all of them.

Biden ordered the sale of leases stopped in January, 2021.....within days the price of gasoline started to rise..........the leases he signed in that first year were the ones Trump sold.......the courts ordered him to resume sales.....he fought that as long as he could but finally resumed sales in June of 2022......within days the price of gasoline started to fall........I have provided links to these facts before and can again.......now prove me wrong......

the same thing happened in 2008 when Bush expanded leasing......prices started climbing when Obama reversed his order in January of 2009.....again you can track against the price of oil within a matter of days......

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You are full of shit. Every fucking whacko threatening violence today is a right wing extremist. The FBI has come out saying the greatest threat today is not from those outside our country it's right wing extremists right here at home. I hope that shithead from SC is right and they indict the Velveeta man and we have riots in the streets, it's time we put more of them in prison and show the rest of the country how fucked up the right has become under their wannabe Fuhrer.

Immature. You insult me, then change the parameters of my statement. Cool off, sober up, do whatever it takes to let your logical side dominate your emotional side, son. As the links note, LW violence is alive and well in the US even though it's presently dominated by RW violence. Are you saying that if Trump wins in 2024 or, if the Republicans solidly take Congress this November, that there won't be LW violence before election 2024? Only a fucking overly-emotional moron would make that claim.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/15/politics/supreme-court-justice-threats-merrick-garland/index.html
Merrick Garland says threats against Supreme Court justices are taken 'extraordinarily seriously'

"As an elected official, I've certainly had enough protests outside my house, and I think that's a critical part of the First Amendment and the ability of Americans to express their anger, their discontent, their unhappiness with either elected officials or the judicial branch," Coons said. "But I do think we need to be mindful, given credible recent threats, and given a tragic incident that happened in New Jersey."

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...-targeting-of-supreme-court-justices-00048506
DOJ official pressed on targeting of Supreme Court justices
Justice's national security chief vows to fight threats and acts of violence

However, Assistant Attorney General for National Security Matthew Olsen said law enforcement will act against people making threats or seeking to engage in violence against justices, such as the alleged assassination attempt against Justice Brett Kavanaugh last month.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119

In this research we address these gaps by comparing the use of political violence by left-wing, right-wing, and Islamist extremists in the United States and worldwide using two unique datasets that cover real-world examples of politically motivated, violent behaviors. Across both datasets, we find that radical acts perpetrated by individuals associated with left-wing causes are less likely to be violent....

https://www.pnas.org/doi/suppl/10.1073/pnas.2122593119/suppl_file/pnas.2122593119.sapp.pdf

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35858413/
Across both datasets, we find that radical acts perpetrated by individuals associated with left-wing causes are less likely to be violent. <---same study but accepted by the NLM

https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/f... - Left-Wing Violent Extremism in America.pdf
Anarchist/Left-Wing Violent Extremism in America: Trends in Radicalization, Recruitment, and Mobilization

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Totally. Gaslighting is a hallmark of leftism.

Billions of dollars in damages from 6 months of riots and not a peep. All the leftist domestic terrorists do is destroy and riot like a bunch of wild animals. They rioted for a week after Trump was first elected. Then, Muh Russia hoax, another abject fail like all the rest.

The American people don't want what they're selling and they know it, hence the rage and shrillness.

Aw, isn't that adorable? The seventh-grade clique grrrl is trying to convince us that she follows politics and not just gossip.

Love your code word for Black people -- "animals." No racism to see here, folks. Move along.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Aw, isn't that adorable? The seventh-grade clique grrrl is trying to convince us that she follows politics and not just gossip.

Love your code word for Black people -- "animals." No racism to see here, folks. Move along.

You know her better regarding her past racism than I do, but I haven't followed very closely. I do know that her "mom" is an ardent racist as are other members of the KKK.

As for post-election 2016, that's a very interesting point since I fail to see why she thinks the post-election riots were like wild animals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_protests_against_Donald_Trump#Post-election

Following the announcement of Trump's election victory, large protests broke out across the United States including other countries such as Canada, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Philippines, Australia, Israel with some continuing for several days, and more protests planned for the following weeks and months....

...Thousands of protesters took to the street in Chicago. Chicago Tribune explains that the protest was "relatively peaceful" and was "devoid of any of the heavy vandalism of effigy burning that occurred elsewhere." Five people were arrested in total....


...High school and college students walked out of classes to protest.[96][112] The protests were mostly peaceful, although at some protests fires were lit, flags were burned, and a Trump piñata was burned.[113][114]
Celebrities such as Madonna, Cher, and Lady Gaga took part in New York.[115][116][117] Some protesters took to blocking freeways in Los Angeles, San Diego, and Portland, Oregon, and were dispersed by police in the early hours of the morning.[118][119] One protester was hit by a car.[120] In a number of cities, protesters were dispersed with rubber bullets, pepper spray and bean-bags fired by police.[121][122][123] While protests ended at 3 am in New York City, calls were made to continue the protests over the coming day

That said, despite LW protests to the contrary, LW violence is alive and well in the United States. As I pointed out to Port Track, just because RW violence dominates in the US doesn't mean LW violence has gone away.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Immature. You insult me, then change the parameters of my statement. Cool off, sober up, do whatever it takes to let your logical side dominate your emotional side, son. As the links note, LW violence is alive and well in the US even though it's presently dominated by RW violence. Are you saying that if Trump wins in 2024 or, if the Republicans solidly take Congress this November, that there won't be LW violence before election 2024? Only a fucking overly-emotional moron would make that claim.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/15/politics/supreme-court-justice-threats-merrick-garland/index.html
Merrick Garland says threats against Supreme Court justices are taken 'extraordinarily seriously'


https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...-targeting-of-supreme-court-justices-00048506
DOJ official pressed on targeting of Supreme Court justices
Justice's national security chief vows to fight threats and acts of violence


https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2122593119


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35858413/
Across both datasets, we find that radical acts perpetrated by individuals associated with left-wing causes are less likely to be violent. <---same study but accepted by the NLM

https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/f... - Left-Wing Violent Extremism in America.pdf
Anarchist/Left-Wing Violent Extremism in America: Trends in Radicalization, Recruitment, and Mobilization

yes lefties. don;t think for once dutch is on your side. he just loves oppression.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Biden ordered the sale of leases stopped in January, 2021.....within days the price of gasoline started to rise..........the leases he signed in that first year were the ones Trump sold.......the courts ordered him to resume sales.....he fought that as long as he could but finally resumed sales in June of 2022......within days the price of gasoline started to fall........I have provided links to these facts before and can again.......now prove me wrong......

the same thing happened in 2008 when Bush expanded leasing......prices started climbing when Obama reversed his order in January of 2009.....again you can track against the price of oil within a matter of days......

I am curious how you provided facts for something that is not factually true. Leases are sold on the day of the lease auction, they are not signed months later.
https://eplanning.blm.gov/public_projects/nepa/1502549/20015475/250020622/SALERESULTS.pdf

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I am curious how you provided facts for something that is not factually true. Leases are sold on the day of the lease auction, they are not signed months later.
https://eplanning.blm.gov/public_projects/nepa/1502549/20015475/250020622/SALERESULTS.pdf

He pulls them out of his nether regions then smears them across JPP.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

You know her better regarding her past racism than I do, but I haven't followed very closely. I do know that her "mom" is an ardent racist as are other members of the KKK.

As for post-election 2016, that's a very interesting point since I fail to see why she thinks the post-election riots were like wild animals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_protests_against_Donald_Trump#Post-election


That said, despite LW protests to the contrary, LW violence is alive and well in the United States. As I pointed out to Port Track, just because RW violence dominates in the US doesn't mean LW violence has gone away.

Thousands of crazed Trumpanzees beating and attacking police as they storm the nation's capitol building in order to keep their glorious leader in power, resulting in multiple deaths: Legitimate political discourse.

Half a dozen LW on a corner with anti-#TRE45ON signs: Violent riot, massive destruction.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Thousands of crazed Trumpanzees beating and attacking police as they storm the nation's capitol building in order to keep their glorious leader in power, resulting in multiple deaths: Legitimate political discourse.

Half a dozen LW on a corner with anti-#TRE45ON signs: Violent riot, massive destruction.

True, but you and I both know that LWL attacks have killed or risked killing Americans. Sure, the greater threat are the RWNJs.

IMO, the problem isn't Left or Right, but extremist politics and intolerance of opposing ideas. JPP members see this daily in microcosm.

If some of JPP's geezers could murder other members through their keyboards, do you doubt they'd do it? I don't. Would most of the murderers be RW elderly Euro-American males who defend Pedo Don? Yes, IMO. That doesn't change the fact LWers can be violent and murderous, as previous links have shown.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Which right wing groups are we talking about here anyway? Nobody seems to have a list of these.

 

[Into the Night]

The election wasn't even close TRUMPLODYTE!

Yes SIR, THAT WAS A GOOD OLD FASHIONED ASS WHOOPING WHERE THE BEST MAN WON!

God- I just love it when GOOD WINS OVER EVIL!

I've been happier than a dog with two dicks about it ever since!

There was no election.

 

[Into the Night]

you're either shit stupid, completely naive, or willfully ignorant..............you should shut up more often and listen to reality more.

Geeko is willfully ignorant, and shit stupid for being so.

 

[Into the Night]

DUDE THIS WHOLE SELF-RIGHTEOUS ACT OF CLAIMING YOU ARE SMARTERTHAN ANYONE IS NOT WORKING FOR YOU!

SIR! WE ARE SIMPLY NOT IMPRESSED WITH YOUR POMPOUS-ASS DISPLAY OR YOUR IQ!

Lame Inversion fallacy. Childish mimicking will get you nowhere.

 

[Into the Night]

He is very quick to defend Trump's actions, regardless of what it is, and attacks anyone to the left of his Alt-Right ideology. Odd for a "centrist", eh? LOL

Buzzword fallacies.

 

[Into the Night]

Biden signed more leases in his first year than Trump did in his first three. Oil production in the US will soon be greater than anything under Trump. Not only oil but natural gas production will set all time records this year under Biden while the right wing idiot claims he is against oil production. Biden never shut anything down, the pandemic, demand and prices dropping to $19 a barrel is what temporarily shut down our oil production. It had nothing to do with Biden. Just as when the demand returned and oil shot up to over $100 per barrel our oil production shot back up to record levels. It also had nothing to do with Biden. We would have seen the exact same phenomenon regardless of who was president.

Making shit up isn't helping you.

The right wing is looking pretty fucking stupid complaining that Biden is horrible for fossil fuel production when he is setting all time records for the production of all of them.

Fossils aren't used for fuel. Fossils don't burn.

 

[Into the Night]

You are full of shit.

Kettle fallacy.

Every fucking whacko threatening violence today is a right wing extremist.

Inversion fallacy. You are describing Democrats and yourself.

The FBI has come out saying the greatest threat today is not from those outside our country it's right wing extremists right here at home.

Fiction.

I hope that shithead from SC is right and they indict the Velveeta man and we have riots in the streets, it's time we put more of them in prison and show the rest of the country how fucked up the right has become under their wannabe Fuhrer.

Your call for civil war is again noted.

 

[Into the Night]

Aw, isn't that adorable? The seventh-grade clique grrrl is trying to convince us that she follows politics and not just gossip.

Love your code word for Black people -- "animals." No racism to see here, folks. Move along.

Inversion fallacy. Racism. Your racism is YOUR problem, not anyone else's. You can't get away with projecting YOUR problem onto anyone else.

 

[Into the Night]

I am curious how you provided facts for something that is not factually true. Leases are sold on the day of the lease auction, they are not signed months later.
https://eplanning.blm.gov/public_projects/nepa/1502549/20015475/250020622/SALERESULTS.pdf

No.