I Agree With The Founders About Healthcare

Robo said:
Two things

Romneycare was constitutional, Obamacare was not constitutional. (see Amendment 10)
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That was my point exactly. As I said, Romneycare being Constitutional based on the 10th amendment doesn't equate to my support of the concept of government run healthcare. Those are two different things.
 
Robo said:
Who gives a bleep about the rightwing or leftwing? The issue and subject matter of this thread, is the constitutional way to solve the nation's bleeped up healthcare system that has been established as nothing less than a truckload of garbage controlled by BIG medical insurance co's and BIG Phrma.
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Then follow the example of the Founders. National healthcare for all. But the right wing will not allow that, so that is why one should give s fuck about left wing, or right wing. That is also why you have the problem with big pharma, insurance companies, hospitals, etc.
 
LV426 said:
The only reason it's expensive is because of the profit motive. And the profit motive tied to the administration of reimbursement to your provider doesn't materially affect how your health care is delivered.
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So you're saying the two pigs or a basket of eggs has advanced in quality on the same proportional level as the quality of healthcare?
 
Old Trapper said:
Then follow the example of the Founders. National healthcare for all. But the right wing will not allow that, so that is why one should give s fuck about left wing, or right wing. That is also why you have the problem with big pharma, insurance companies, hospitals, etc.
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That was not their example just like general welfare doesn't mean it's the government's responsibility to provide you healthcare, food, clothing, or shelter.
 
iewitness said:
I disagree with the idea that any government has any place in any "healthcare". Care for health is the responsibility of individuals. Now that government has got their evil fingers into the care for health; it is now the industry of human life management and since men are flawed with the "be like God" sin complex, the damned fight over being endued by the state with the power to manage human life. It is all horror.
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Just as a question, why do you use the name of Jesus in your sig, and then ignore His teachings?
 
CFM said:
That was not their example just like general welfare doesn't mean it's the government's responsibility to provide you healthcare, food, clothing, or shelter.
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I already gave two examples of where the Founding Fathers say you are full of shit. Do you have anything aside from your ignorance, and "opinion" to prove otherwise?
 
Robo said:
The "General Welfare" clause in the Constitution is NOT a blank check for the feds to do whatever they want. If it were, the total Constitution would be wasted paper and ink except for the general welfare clause. Research Jefferson and Madison's definitions on the general welfare. They made that same argument. The general welfare clause is simply a redundant explanation and defining of the authorities and powers of the Congress as "enumerated" by the Constitution.
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That is the mindset of the left. If what they claimed was actually true, the Constitution would need to be only a few words long and say "general welfare". If general welfare was that blank check, Article I, Section 8 , the 10th amendment, and Article I, Section 10 would not have been written. The left wing mindset that general welfare means the government can do whatever a majority chooses for it to do is the very reason we have the Constitution written as it is. It prevents 2/3 of a group being able to vote to steal from the other 1/3.
 
Old Trapper said:
I already gave two examples of where the Founding Fathers say you are full of shit. Do you have anything aside from your ignorance, and "opinion" to prove otherwise?
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You claimed that what they meant then use the "because I said that's what it means, it's correct" attitude.
 
Old Trapper said:
Actually it is not. If it were then there would be no corporate welfare, no taxation of the poor, no income inequality, and the list goes on. So, quit your whining, and take your thumb out of your ass.
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There is no such thing as corporate welfare and, in case you were unaware, poor people don't pay lots of taxes because it's a fact they're poor because they don't have any money.
 
Old Trapper said:
Just as a question, why do you use the name of Jesus in your sig, and then ignore His teachings?
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Jesus never taught that it was OK to take from those bleeding hearts like you think have too much, give it to someone you bleeding hearts think have too little, and claim compassion although it didn't come out of your own pocket.
 
CFM said:
I'd like to be there when he finds out.
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You should maybe rethink that. The damned will receive the Antichrist and he will teach what they want to hear. The already have embraced Antichrist. They are easily identified by the marks in their foreheads and right hands.the beast is their father.
 
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