I am hereby challenging Cypress to a bet for charity

RB 60 said:
Just what "truth" is that? That you hate Christians?
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I have great respect for anyone who has walked or is walking a spiritual path as I have, and the failure of Christianity might well be the primary reason the West is dying, which is catastrophic, I take no joy in what is happening.

Somebody has been feeding you bad information.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I have great respect for anyone who has walked or is walking a spiritual path as I have, and the failure of Christianity might well be the primary reason the West is dying, which is catastrophic, I take no joy in what is happening.

Somebody has been feeding you bad information.
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You claim it's Evangelicals that are a problem. Your quote: "Christianity has never been failing faster, the evangelicals have never been so worthless."

Why are we "worthless"? Do you deny the fact that Evangelicals are charitable and give food, clothing, gifts for children, etc. to the hungry and less fortunate without reservation?
 
RB 60 said:
You claim it's Evangelicals that are a problem. Your quote: "Christianity has never been failing faster, the evangelicals have never been so worthless."

Why are we "worthless"? Do you deny the fact that Evangelicals are charitable and give food, clothing, gifts for children, etc. to the hungry and less fortunate without reservation?
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Evangelicals have long been where all of the energy has been, if Christianity was going to be reformed and modernized so that people would again take to it....if Christianity was to be saved that is....It was always going to have to be the evangelicals who did it. They did not do it, and now it is likely too late even if someone did figure something out as America is moving rapidly towards Maoist revolution, after which Christians will be hunted figuratively if not actually as members of an alleged hate group.

This is all so very sad.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Evangelicals have long been where all of the energy has been, if Christianity was going to be reformed and modernized so that people would again take to it....if Christianity was to be saved that is....It was always going to have to be the evangelicals who did it. They did not do it, and now it is likely too late even if someone did figure something out as America is moving rapidly towards Maoist revolution, after which Christians will be hunted figuratively if not actually as members of an alleged hate group.

This is all so very sad.
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"Reformed and modernized"? WTF?

Why don't you address why we are "worthless"? That was what you said...
 
RB 60 said:
"Reformed and modernized"? WTF?

Why don't you address why we are "worthless"? That was what you said...
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Did not get the job done, evangelicals tried a lot of things to include turning going to church onto entertainment but they did not come up with anything that gave Christianity a new lease on life.....and now it is dying....as is the West.

Evangelicals failed in their primary mission, to catastrophic result, which is why I used the very strong term Worthless. I did not mean it as you clearly took it that the individuals are worthless.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Did not get the job done, evangelicals tried a lot of things to include turning going to church onto entertainment but they did not come up with anything that gave Christianity a new lease on life.....and now it is dying....as is the West.

Evangelicals failed in their primary mission, to catastrophic result, which is why I used the very strong term Worthless. I did not mean it as you clearly took it that the individuals are worthless.
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You are grasping for straws and aren't reaching them very well.

Why are we "worthless" when we are helping the less fortunate?
 
AProudLefty said:
I could donate $10 to JPP if Trump wins Kansas.
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Commendable, sir, and I'm sure JPP could use the money. :D I like this forum and betting donations to the forum serves two good purposes: it makes people put their money where their mouth is and it supports the forum. The fact it's easy to verify the donation was made is a bonus. FWIW, $100 is a bit steep for my blood. I have steaks and ammo to buy which is why I like $20 bets.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/ks/kansas_trump_vs_biden-7058.html
Trump +12 https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/KansasResults.pdf

I know the RWNJs don't believe in polls, but they are excellent tools when taken by reputable sources. The PPP link has Trump 12 points ahead. Things could change but a double digit lead is a difficult gap to surpass.

Obviously if it's revealed that Trump likes young boys to keep him warm in the winter, that could have an immediate and adverse effect on his lead over Biden. Otherwise, it looks like Trump will take the six (6) Kansan Electoral votes.

Cohort said:
I will bet you 100 dollars straight up that trump wins kansas

Loser must donate to a charity of the winners choice and provide proof of doing so.

Let me know if you are willing to put your money where your mouth is.....
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Just curious, but why is "Evince" banned? hasn't she been MIA for months now like a few prominent members who suddenly disappeared?

Evince Last Activity 02-21-2020 01:24 PM
 
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Dutch Uncle said:
Commendable, sir, and I'm sure JPP could use the money. :D I like this forum and betting donations to the forum serves two good purposes: it makes people put their money where their mouth is and it supports the forum. The fact it's easy to verify the donation was made is a bonus. FWIW, $100 is a bit steep for my blood. I have steaks and ammo to buy which is why I like $20 bets.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/ks/kansas_trump_vs_biden-7058.html
Trump +12 https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/KansasResults.pdf

I know the RWNJs don't believe in polls, but they are excellent tools when taken by reputable sources. The PPP link has Trump 12 points ahead. Things could change but a double digit lead is a difficult gap to surpass.

Obviously if it's revealed that Trump likes young boys to keep him warm in the winter, that could have an immediate and adverse effect on his lead over Biden. Otherwise, it looks like Trump will take the six (6) Kansan Electoral votes.

Just curious, but why is "Evince" banned? hasn't she been MIA for months now like a few prominent members who suddenly disappeared?

Evince Last Activity 02-21-2020 01:24 PM
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I wonder if all those who support trump and also support ACA will change their minds now that he's trying to repeal it.

Kansas Survey Results

Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President Donald Trump’s job performance? 52% Approve............ 44% Disapprove................ 4% Not Sure

Q2 If the candidates for President were Democrat Joe Biden and Republican Donald Trump, who would you vote for? 40% Joe Biden................ 52% Donald Trump.......... 8% Not sure

Q12 Do you support or oppose the Affordable Care Act? 43% Support............................. 34% Oppose........................................... 23% Not sure
 
christiefan915 said:

I wonder if all those who support trump and also support ACA will change their minds now that he's trying to repeal it.

Kansas Survey Results

Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President Donald Trump’s job performance? 52% Approve............ 44% Disapprove................ 4% Not Sure

Q2 If the candidates for President were Democrat Joe Biden and Republican Donald Trump, who would you vote for? 40% Joe Biden................ 52% Donald Trump.......... 8% Not sure

Q12 Do you support or oppose the Affordable Care Act? 43% Support............................. 34% Oppose........................................... 23% Not sure
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They wouldn't....which is why Trump, or the Republican party, has never actually pulled the trigger on repealing Obamacare.

They've been bitching about it for over a decade but have never, ever come up with a replacement plan.

Trump talks a lot about a "beautiful" plan, but it's never been revealed to the public because it doesn't exist.

Trump and the Republicans just use it to stir up the dummies.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
They wouldn't....which is why Trump, or the Republican party, has never actually pulled the trigger on repealing Obamacare.

They've been bitching about it for over a decade but have never, ever come up with a replacement plan.

Trump talks a lot about a "beautiful" plan, but it's never been revealed to the public because it doesn't exist.

Trump and the Republicans just use it to stir up the dummies.
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I suspect a trump plan wouldn't be better than the ACA because... well you know, trump. But I'd give a look anyway.
 
christiefan915 said:
I suspect a trump plan wouldn't be better than the ACA because... well you know, trump. But I'd give a look anyway.
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The problem is that Rex Tillerson was correct: Trump is a fucking moron. There is no plan. Trump is selling Florida swampland when he claims otherwise. Same goes of for his "lock her up" bullshit. It's four months until the election and there is nothing to show for either one. Trump has nothing.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Did not get the job done, evangelicals tried a lot of things to include turning going to church onto entertainment but they did not come up with anything that gave Christianity a new lease on life.....and now it is dying....as is the West.

Evangelicals failed in their primary mission, to catastrophic result, which is why I used the very strong term Worthless. I did not mean it as you clearly took it that the individuals are worthless.
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What mission is that??:thinking:
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The problem is that Rex Tillerson was correct: Trump is a fucking moron. There is no plan. Trump is selling Florida swampland when he claims otherwise. Same goes of for his "lock her up" bullshit. It's four months until the election and there is nothing to show for either one. Trump has nothing.
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Yep....... If he had a plan it would likely be someone elses plan & he just put his name on it.....

I think his plan, is the same plan the gop has had, "don't get sick"
 
Bill said:
Yep....... If he had a plan it would likely be someone elses plan & he just put his name on it.....

I think his plan, is the same plan the gop has had, "don't get sick"
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Agreed, but that reinforces the point that it's not just Trump. The Republicans have been screaming "Repeal! Repeal!" for over 10 years yet not a single replacement plan has ever been offered. Why? Because they have no plan....and that's why it won't be repealed.

It would be political suicide for every Republican who voted to repeal Obamacare without having a viable plan in which to immediately replace it. Ergo, no plan, no repeal. Just more hot air.
 
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