I knew it! Trump won't do any more debates.

IBDaMann said:
Biden's team will pipe optimal responses into Biden's ear and off camera they will provide him visual aids and cues, i.e. it won't be Biden debating, it will be a consortium.
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Do you have any evidence they plan on doing that or is this just speculation based on nothing?

Instead of the moderator merely being unfair in the questioning, total control over the speakers' volumes will be in the hands of an external production team that will favor Biden, and will cut off Trump whenever they feel like it.
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Why would they be biased for Biden?
Is there any evidence or is this just more baseless assumptions?
 
IBDaMann said:
Hence, the economy boomed and we reached record low unemployment
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The economy never once exceeded Obama's best annual GDP (2.89%) or quarterly GDP (5.5%) growth.

Also, unemployment was not at a record low. The record low unemployment rate is 2.5% from May and June 1953.

Trump created fewer jobs in his first three years than Obama did in his last three.

And what's the current unemployment rate, how many people have filed continuing jobless claims, and how many discouraged workers are there now?
 
IBDaMann said:
hen the Democrats intentionally hyped the COVID fear specifically to damage the economy, put people out of business, put people out of work and to ruin lives in the hopes that tools like you would blame Trump for everything they did. It's not working. The United States will reelect Donald Trump and this Democrat shit is going to end.
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We entered into a recession in February, before the lockdowns:

It's official: Recession began in February, ending longest U.S. expansion ever
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-states-recession-started-february/

And manufacturing lost 300,000 jobs last year, and was in a recession all year...again, before COVID:

U.S. manufacturing was in a mild recession during 2019, a sore spot for the economy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...mild-recession-during-2019-sore-spot-economy/

The fact of the matter is that everything you claim to believe in is utter shit.
 
IBDaMann said:
Are we talking about today, i.e. the present tense?
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We don't know anything about Trump's condition right now because they're holding it all back. They won't even say when his last negative test was. You know as much of Trump's condition as I do...the difference is that I listen to what his doctors are saying, what they're prescribing him, how they're treating him...you aren't. You're like a cult member who believes fantastic and outrageous things about Trump because you can't bring yourself to admit you've been swindled.

But you'll find out real fast the moment he's gone and you try to re-brand...no one is going to be there for you. He's going to leave you holding all his baggage. There will come a point where you simply don't have the stamina to carry it anymore, at which time you'll then start pretending you've never supported Trump, that he was a Democrat, and that you've never even heard of him before.
 
IBDaMann said:
As the article states, "Here in the United States, our leaders have failed that test. They have taken a crisis and turned it into a tragedy"

The article correctly but somewhat unclearly points out that the responsibility lies with the governors and that they all failed based on their degree of incompetence.
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That's not what the article says.

What it says is that Trump was too lazy to handle this, so he ceded the response to the governors.

Some of those governors were successful, but others weren't.

But the article clearly states that responsibility lies with Trump, who put the governors in the position they are in.

You are functionally illiterate.
 
IBDaMann said:
It's the answer to your question. Why did you ask if you didn't want an answer?


It's the answer to your question. If there's an answer you don't want, don't ask its question.
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I can't ask follow-ups? I'm curious about if there is any evidence to these claims or if they were just pulled out of a human butt.
 
LV426 said:
That's not what the article says.
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I provided a direct quote. You are in denial.

LV426 said:
What it says is that Trump was too lazy to handle this, so he ceded the response to the governors.
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1. Trump isn't mentioned, nor is "The President" nor is the current administration.
2. The article said neither "ceded" nor "abdicated."
3. Even if the article had, the authors would be objectively incorrect. The Constitution places that responsibility at the feet of the governors (the States).

So, how did your particular governor FAIL?

LV426 said:
Some of those governors were successful, but others weren't.
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Now you are contradicting the editorial you are using to support your point. The editorial says they were all failures.

I'm guessing you didn't read this editorial.

LV426 said:
But the article clearly states that responsibility lies with Trump,
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The article does not, but if the authors had, they would be wrong and your point would be cut off at the knees. The Constitution overrides an editorial from a Marxist group.

You are dysfunctionally illiterate.
 
StoneByStone said:
Evidence. Did we not just go through this?
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"Evidence" is totally subjective. What you consider to be "evidence" is not what I consider to be "evidence." Hence the question "What do you need to convince you?" If it makes it any easier, you can interpret that as "What specific evidence do you need to convince you?"
 
IBDaMann said:
"Evidence" is totally subjective. What you consider to be "evidence" is not what I consider to be "evidence." Hence the question "What do you need to convince you?" If it makes it any easier, you can interpret that as "What specific evidence do you need to convince you?"
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Well on the subject of Biden cheating, I already said that an audio of him admitting to wanting to cheat, or previous examples of him cheating, would certainly be good evidence.

As for the debate being rigged against Trump, maybe if some of the people involved admitted that they want to sabotage Trump.

But I'm open to hearing ANY evidence at all. What do you consider to be evidence for either of these claims?
 
LV426 said:
That's not what the article says.

What it says is that Trump was too lazy to handle this, so he ceded the response to the governors.

Some of those governors were successful, but others weren't.

But the article clearly states that responsibility lies with Trump, who put the governors in the position they are in.

You are functionally illiterate.
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Trump pressured all the governors to open up quickly. The rebubs followed orders. Their states are a mess. The ones who resisted him have had much better results. Trump figured he could force the country to open and not take heat for the results. But The blue states are in far better shape.
 
LV426 said:
He's backing out of the virtual one next week...

I seem to recall making the prediction that he'd do terribly in Debate #1 and come up with some bullshit excuse not to do the other two.

The bullshit excuse this time is that he just doesn't want to do it.

What a little bitch.
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Where he didn't do particularly well when the first one he didn't do terribly. I understand not wanting to do a virtual debate. Virtual telecommunications like that are buggy. He should do it in person. From the looks of it Biden coward out of that.
 
StoneByStone said:
Well on the subject of Biden cheating, I already said that an audio of him admitting to wanting to cheat, or previous examples of him cheating, would certainly be good evidence.

As for the debate being rigged against Trump, maybe if some of the people involved admitted that they want to sabotage Trump.

But I'm open to hearing ANY evidence at all. What do you consider to be evidence for either of these claims?
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I'm afraid I can't convince you. I don't have audio of Biden admitting to planning to cheat.

As to what you consider "evidence", you apparently don't consider the completely unfair questioning of Republican candidates vs Democrat candidates as "evidence" so I can't present that. Apparently you think that the TDS-afflicted media who has been actively trashing Trump non-stop since he announced he was running for President and who have expressly stated that their only priority is getting Trump out of office would suddenly give Trump a break and be totally fair.

So ... I've got nothing for you.
 
IBDaMann said:
I'm afraid I can't convince you. I don't have audio of Biden admitting to planning to cheat.
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So do you have anything at all that you consider to be evidence?
Why do you think he's planning to cheat?

As to what you consider "evidence", you apparently don't consider the completely unfair questioning of Republican candidates vs Democrat candidates as "evidence" so I can't present that.
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Examples?

Apparently you think that the TDS-afflicted media who has been actively trashing Trump non-stop since he announced he was running for President and who have expressly stated that their only priority is getting Trump out of office would suddenly give Trump a break and be totally fair.
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Isn't that Trump's fault for being so corrupt? Is the media supposed to just let him get away with lying constantly?

And "the media" is not a monolith. Some media networks have been extremely biased in favor of Trump.
Do you have any evidence that the moderator of the now-cancelled second debate would have been biased?
 
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