I want a stimulus check. How about you.

AssHatZombie said:
the middle class is disappearing due to globalization. if you dont have an investment portfolio of multinational corporations and work for a living in america, the opportunities are quickly dwindling from sending so much overseas, wrecklessly.

it's structural, just like the depression.
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It's more about a technological revolution in progress. The same thing happened with the early decades, even the first century, of the Industrial Revolution. It upended society and how things were organized. Well, we are now about 50 to 100 years depending on where you want to start from into the Electronics Revolution. The Ancient era and the Renaissance didn't upend society like the the Industrial and Electronics Revolution have.

This is the first time in human history we haven't had need for masses of workers doing, well, just about anything. We have a massive surplus of people in developed nations that are for all intents nearly useless. The Left seeks old solutions to this problem from the now dead and gone Industrial Revolution. We no longer have regular wars or even frequent plagues and epidemics (yea, we're having one right now but it will be remarkably sort compared to historical ones that ran on for decades and even centuries). That just exacerbates the problem of what to do with all the surplus people who are not technically literate enough to get high paying, productive jobs in a world where strong backs and weak minds are no longer needed.

For those who can do such jobs, they get good pay and benefits. For those that can't, they must compete for a dwindling number of jobs that are basic labor or require few skills. The Left in seeking a "living wage" for such person is only driving the process of eliminating those jobs forward faster. The model that arose during the Industrial Revolution is no longer valid. What we need is a new model that will make it possible for more people to be useful in the Electronics Age.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It's more about a technological revolution in progress. The same thing happened with the early decades, even the first century, of the Industrial Revolution. It upended society and how things were organized. Well, we are now about 50 to 100 years depending on where you want to start from into the Electronics Revolution. The Ancient era and the Renaissance didn't upend society like the the Industrial and Electronics Revolution have.

This is the first time in human history we haven't had need for masses of workers doing, well, just about anything. We have a massive surplus of people in developed nations that are for all intents nearly useless. The Left seeks old solutions to this problem from the now dead and gone Industrial Revolution. We no longer have regular wars or even frequent plagues and epidemics (yea, we're having one right now but it will be remarkably sort compared to historical ones that ran on for decades and even centuries). That just exacerbates the problem of what to do with all the surplus people who are not technically literate enough to get high paying, productive jobs in a world where strong backs and weak minds are no longer needed.

For those who can do such jobs, they get good pay and benefits. For those that can't, they must compete for a dwindling number of jobs that are basic labor or require few skills. The Left in seeking a "living wage" for such person is only driving the process of eliminating those jobs forward faster. The model that arose during the Industrial Revolution is no longer valid. What we need is a new model that will make it possible for more people to be useful in the Electronics Age.
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so you admit it's structural and not "laziness".

what's that model look like?

or are you just bullshitting until they kill half the people?
 
AssHatZombie said:
so you admit it's structural and not "laziness".
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There's some degree of laziness involved too. Socialism produces that. Generational welfare. People who think they're better off on food stamps, welfare, etc., than getting a job.

what's that model look like?

or are you just bullshitting until they kill half the people?
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I don't know for sure. I'd be guessing at best. It'd be like someone in the 17th Century trying to predict what the late 19th Century or early 20th would look like. What I do know is that the idea you can get a good paying job doing some repetitive, maybe even somewhat complex, task all day long is mostly dead and gone. The world doesn't need masses of factory workers for many tasks anymore.

This

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Has become this:

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As it stands, only about a third of the population is really cut out to achieve a college degree. Sorry, but I don't have a good answer for what will happen or how society will change to this, but it's going to have to happen and it will revolutionize how human society is organized and operates as much or more than the Industrial Revolution did.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
There's some degree of laziness involved too. Socialism produces that. Generational welfare. People who think they're better off on food stamps, welfare, etc., than getting a job.



I don't know for sure. I'd be guessing at best. It'd be like someone in the 17th Century trying to predict what the late 19th Century or early 20th would look like. What I do know is that the idea you can get a good paying job doing some repetitive, maybe even somewhat complex, task all day long is mostly dead and gone. The world doesn't need masses of factory workers for many tasks anymore.

This

8e26afbf5f26a1e436862906f3584b01.jpg


Has become this:

Car-Assembly-Line.jpg


As it stands, only about a third of the population is really cut out to achieve a college degree. Sorry, but I don't have a good answer for what will happen or how society will change to this, but it's going to have to happen and it will revolutionize how human society is organized and operates as much or more than the Industrial Revolution did.
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nothing has to happen. that's retarded.

you should switch off your nwo genocide tendencies though. its ugly.

who's gonna buy cars.

humanity is an end in itself, not an efficiency engine.
 
overall said:
Think bigger?! As things now stand it doesn't look like even a $1200.00 dollar stimulus check is going to happen. Ever. And for 99% of the fuckwads I've seen around here, they aren't even interested in one.
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im for the 1200, but thats just another 2 or less months of life. you should support trump and fight globalism and the destruction of the working class.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I didn't ask for that check. I worked my ass off to get where I am. If you were too lazy and / or stupid to be able to do the same, that's your problem, not mine. Even if "most of the poor" had computers, they'd still be too lazy and / or stupid to be able to post on a forum or whatever for lack of energy or ability to do so. In the US we have a large portion of our population that is functionally illiterate. These are people who can't make complete sentences, misuse words, or otherwise mangle English. Many are high school and even college graduates.



From a resume help site...
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Ah. An elitist I see. I dropped out of high school in my third year with three years worth of credits to make up for. And I can guarantee you that intellectually, you are a WORM compared to me. Less than a worm. More along the lines of some sort of fungus. Also there is a song out there by Kansas called, "Sparks of the tempest." One of the lyrics in it says, "The less that you know the more you fall into place." Trouble is, it works both ways. Most often, the more that you know the more you fall into place. Because people with a degree probably worked pretty hard to get it. And these days sure as hell spent enough for it. And most probably make a pretty good living at what they were trained to do. All of this makes them less likely to rock the boat. And all of the bullshit college, the government and the media inflicts on them, they are most likely to follow the herd and accept it without question. The delusional scum. The worthless, vile filth. Even fungus are superior to them. At least fungus performs a useful function in the ecological system. But because of humans, I doubt if most of the life on earth will see the year 2050.

As for working, I worked my ass off. As a laborer. You know. The type of person who does the things that give you the ability to live the life you do. Which apparently to all you elitist piles of dog shit is pretty damned unimportant. You delusional fucks. In my state, there just weren't any jobs to be had. So I worked in many other states. Where my efforts were equally worthless. Not enough to get by on. And if you think that taking a bus across the country with only about $20.00 in my pocket was an easy thing to do, you are delusional. So you don't think I and everybody else isn't deserving of another $1200.00 stimulus check. That doesn't surprise me. You are probably in favor of this country letting in as many ugly, overpopulating, illegal scab scum mexicans as care to come here. Because they won't care as much about getting paid shit. And you are probably in favor of us exporting most of our manufacturing jobs to slave wage countries like China. It is because of people like you that whenever I hear of a mass killer on the news, I am happy. Because all of you worthless fuckfaces deserve to die. In fact, I wish that you could die more than once.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It's more about a technological revolution in progress. The same thing happened with the early decades, even the first century, of the Industrial Revolution. It upended society and how things were organized. Well, we are now about 50 to 100 years depending on where you want to start from into the Electronics Revolution. The Ancient era and the Renaissance didn't upend society like the the Industrial and Electronics Revolution have.

This is the first time in human history we haven't had need for masses of workers doing, well, just about anything. We have a massive surplus of people in developed nations that are for all intents nearly useless. The Left seeks old solutions to this problem from the now dead and gone Industrial Revolution. We no longer have regular wars or even frequent plagues and epidemics (yea, we're having one right now but it will be remarkably sort compared to historical ones that ran on for decades and even centuries). That just exacerbates the problem of what to do with all the surplus people who are not technically literate enough to get high paying, productive jobs in a world where strong backs and weak minds are no longer needed.

For those who can do such jobs, they get good pay and benefits. For those that can't, they must compete for a dwindling number of jobs that are basic labor or require few skills. The Left in seeking a "living wage" for such person is only driving the process of eliminating those jobs forward faster. The model that arose during the Industrial Revolution is no longer valid. What we need is a new model that will make it possible for more people to be useful in the Electronics Age.
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If only you had a brain.
 
AssHatZombie said:
so you admit it's structural and not "laziness".

what's that model look like?

or are you just bullshitting until they kill half the people?
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T.A. Gardner lives in a dream world. You should direct your questions along these lines to me. That is, if you seek the truth.
 
overall said:
Ah. An elitist I see. I dropped out of high school in my third year with three years worth of credits to make up for. And I can guarantee you that intellectually, you are a WORM compared to me. Less than a worm. More along the lines of some sort of fungus. Also there is a song out there by Kansas called, "Sparks of the tempest." One of the lyrics in it says, "The less that you know the more you fall into place." Trouble is, it works both ways. Most often, the more that you know the more you fall into place. Because people with a degree probably worked pretty hard to get it. And these days sure as hell spent enough for it. And most probably make a pretty good living at what they were trained to do. All of this makes them less likely to rock the boat. And all of the bullshit college, the government and the media inflicts on them, they are most likely to follow the herd and accept it without question. The delusional scum. The worthless, vile filth. Even fungus are superior to them. At least fungus performs a useful function in the ecological system. But because of humans, I doubt if most of the life on earth will see the year 2050.

As for working, I worked my ass off. As a laborer. You know. The type of person who does the things that give you the ability to live the life you do. Which apparently to all you elitist piles of dog shit is pretty damned unimportant. You delusional fucks. In my state, there just weren't any jobs to be had. So I worked in many other states. Where my efforts were equally worthless. Not enough to get by on. And if you think that taking a bus across the country with only about $20.00 in my pocket was an easy thing to do, you are delusional. So you don't think I and everybody else isn't deserving of another $1200.00 stimulus check. That doesn't surprise me. You are probably in favor of this country letting in as many ugly, overpopulating, illegal scab scum mexicans as care to come here. Because they won't care as much about getting paid shit. And you are probably in favor of us exporting most of our manufacturing jobs to slave wage countries like China. It is because of people like you that whenever I hear of a mass killer on the news, I am happy. Because all of you worthless fuckfaces deserve to die. In fact, I wish that you could die more than once.
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it's a little harsh, but I mostly agree with this post.

these people are sick fuck genociders.

what's your spiritual situation? dont let anger poison you. it's the beginning of darkness. but there is righteous anger.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
There's some degree of laziness involved too. Socialism produces that. Generational welfare. People who think they're better off on food stamps, welfare, etc., than getting a job.



I don't know for sure. I'd be guessing at best. It'd be like someone in the 17th Century trying to predict what the late 19th Century or early 20th would look like. What I do know is that the idea you can get a good paying job doing some repetitive, maybe even somewhat complex, task all day long is mostly dead and gone. The world doesn't need masses of factory workers for many tasks anymore.

This


Has become this:


As it stands, only about a third of the population is really cut out to achieve a college degree. Sorry, but I don't have a good answer for what will happen or how society will change to this, but it's going to have to happen and it will revolutionize how human society is organized and operates as much or more than the Industrial Revolution did.
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I can't stand your spouting your stupidity to others as well. Most of those technological jobs you speak of aren't needed. The country can and does just treasonously farm them out to other countries. Or let foreign workers who have such training to immigrate here and do those jobs for less than what an American would expect. If this country really wanted such workers, they wouldn't let students sell their ass and go deep into debt to get such education. There are also many countries out there who offer FREE college education to those who want it.
 
AssHatZombie said:
im for the 1200, but thats just another 2 or less months of life. you should support trump and fight globalism and the destruction of the working class.
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When it comes to globalization, Trump didn't do shit. He was all talk, no action. I doubt if anything he did caused one less cargo ship from China to come here. Now if he started having the navy sink cargo ships and destroyed the ports here that they would have headed to, that would have been doing something. If he had deported those 11 million illegals as he had the authority to do, that would have been doing something. If he sealed off the U.S. - mexico border and installed mine fields instead of talking about some bullshit section of wall, that would have been doing something. Also, look at what is behind my picture of Vlad. Having a number of such bodies along a border would do more than any wall ever could.
 
overall said:
When it comes to globalization, Trump didn't do shit. He was all talk, no action. I doubt if anything he did caused one less cargo ship from China to come here. Now if he started having the navy sink cargo ships and destroyed the ports here that they would have headed to, that would have been doing something. If he had deported those 11 million illegals as he had the authority to do, that would have been doing something. If he sealed off the U.S. - mexico border and installed mine fields instead of talking about some bullshit section of wall, that would have been doing something. Also, look at what is behind my picture of Vlad. Having a number of such bodies along a border would do more than any wall ever could.
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he did do tariffs. that's real. biden is completely sold out to china and doesn't even give lip service.
 
AssHatZombie said:
I say we destroy the machines and globalization too.

what do you want to do?
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What kind of machines do you speak of. The robots? If they are doing something useful, I don't see much harm in them. There is only one thing harmful they can do. Which is to produce things that people really don't need. Though I did hear something interesting about some robots once. That some were so expensive to build and maintain, companies would have been better off just having human workers do whatever. Also, look at companies and the commercials they produce. Why do they do so? To make money. Most often, how are they trying to make money? By trying to sell to the American public that they want things that they really don't need.

What any civilization needs is employment for its populace. Human history is full of such examples of their labor. Hundreds of years ago a Spanish conquistador wrote back to Spain about an Incan wall-fortress that he said was more grand than anything to be found in Europe. To make work for the populace, there was also the great pyramids, the great wall and many other great public engineering projects. If necessary, we need the same sort of thing here. But instead our country ships jobs overseas. That is pure insanity. There is another way of dealing with such matters that countries have often employed. Warfare. We shouldn't go in that direction. Unless it was to just protect ourselves.

The main problem is that humans tend to have children. What happens to the children? For the most part, parents don't give a fuck. That's their problem. The parents just have to respond to their biological urges. Anything that happens after that they tend to just leave it in the lap of the gods. And for whoever makes whatever in this country, to be competitive, they are probably doing what they do as cheaply as possible to begin with. Do you think they want a newer and larger number of people doing what they're just getting by on as it is? I don't think so.

So the government must step in. That's their job. Whatever it takes, they must keep their people happy and employed. As well as trying to curb overpopulation. To which end, eugenics is necessary. But I doubt if anybody here would go along with that idea. The self centered fools. So for the time being, it looks like war is the only alternative the plutocrats are interested in. FDR got us involved in a war we shouldn't have gotten us involved in for economic reasons. (And on the wrong side!) I will show you a video where at the end he basically admits this. Because he said that if we didn't do what he wanted to do, there would be no peace in the world. As in what the world was fearing from us back then and what it would fear from us again in the future.



P.S. Obviously, globalization sucks ass.
 
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