I want a stimulus check. How about you.

It's very telling how the liberals here truly don't give a damn about the struggles of the unemployed and low wage minorities by supporting Pelosi's block of any stimulus help. the homelessness are her fault
 
AssHatZombie said:
he did do tariffs. that's real. biden is completely sold out to china and doesn't even give lip service.
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From what I heard, he did do tariffs. But that doesn't do much. Because if somebody ELSE makes what you need, you are likely to pay anything for it. Though I don't really believe the whole tariff thing anyway. I don't believe anything they say. I remember back in the Clinton administration they made big noises about having balanced the budget. But it was all smoke and mirrors. They used accounting practices that would have been illegal in the private sector to make their claim. As for Biden, we weren't given much of a choice. Either vote for a mass murderer or a globalization nutjob. One that kisses negro ass on top of that.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
It's very telling how the liberals here truly don't give a damn about the struggles of the unemployed and low wage minorities by supporting Pelosi's block of any stimulus help. the homelessness are her fault
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I hear talk on the news about progress being made towards another stimulus package. What pisses me off is that it doesn't include another round of $1200.00 dollar stimulus checks. After so many months of the economic mess the coronavirus has caused, do they think that people don't need the money? I know I sure as hell do. What is strange that Trump and the republicans were willing to do it and did so. But apparently Biden and the democrats don't give a fuck. I thought the democrats were supposed to want to help the poor.
 
overall said:
From what I heard, he did do tariffs. But that doesn't do much. Because if somebody ELSE makes what you need, you are likely to pay anything for it. Though I don't really believe the whole tariff thing anyway. I don't believe anything they say. I remember back in the Clinton administration they made big noises about having balanced the budget. But it was all smoke and mirrors. They used accounting practices that would have been illegal in the private sector to make their claim. As for Biden, we weren't given much of a choice. Either vote for a mass murderer or a globalization nutjob. One that kisses negro ass on top of that.
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tariffs do work. you can add them to other countries as needed.
 
overall said:
Ah. An elitist I see. I dropped out of high school in my third year with three years worth of credits to make up for. And I can guarantee you that intellectually, you are a WORM compared to me. Less than a worm. More along the lines of some sort of fungus. Also there is a song out there by Kansas called, "Sparks of the tempest." One of the lyrics in it says, "The less that you know the more you fall into place." Trouble is, it works both ways. Most often, the more that you know the more you fall into place. Because people with a degree probably worked pretty hard to get it. And these days sure as hell spent enough for it. And most probably make a pretty good living at what they were trained to do. All of this makes them less likely to rock the boat. And all of the bullshit college, the government and the media inflicts on them, they are most likely to follow the herd and accept it without question. The delusional scum. The worthless, vile filth. Even fungus are superior to them. At least fungus performs a useful function in the ecological system. But because of humans, I doubt if most of the life on earth will see the year 2050.

As for working, I worked my ass off. As a laborer. You know. The type of person who does the things that give you the ability to live the life you do. Which apparently to all you elitist piles of dog shit is pretty damned unimportant. You delusional fucks. In my state, there just weren't any jobs to be had. So I worked in many other states. Where my efforts were equally worthless. Not enough to get by on. And if you think that taking a bus across the country with only about $20.00 in my pocket was an easy thing to do, you are delusional. So you don't think I and everybody else isn't deserving of another $1200.00 stimulus check. That doesn't surprise me. You are probably in favor of this country letting in as many ugly, overpopulating, illegal scab scum mexicans as care to come here. Because they won't care as much about getting paid shit. And you are probably in favor of us exporting most of our manufacturing jobs to slave wage countries like China. It is because of people like you that whenever I hear of a mass killer on the news, I am happy. Because all of you worthless fuckfaces deserve to die. In fact, I wish that you could die more than once.
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Awwww.... Somebody is angry and has nothing but ad hominem to respond with.

As for boat rocking...

The man that owns the boat rarely has time to rock it...

It's the flotsam and jetsam that cause all the problems.

That you were / are stuck working as a "laborer" for people like me (and, yes I do hire day labor fairly regularly), you get a fair in cash wage for you labor but without me directing the job, planning the work, paying for the materials, doing all the administrative and liaison work involved, and solving problems as they arise, you wouldn't get paid at all. I can do your job but choose to hire and pay you to do it. You can't do mine and that's why I make more.

You are in no way "deserving of another $1200.00 stimulus check" any more than you were of the first one. No one "deserves" welfare or a handout. You might be legally entitled to it, but deserving of it? No.

Also, I'm not in favor of cheap Mexican labor for the most part, particularly in the trades. I see the sort of half assed work they do regularly and have to fix it. Why should someone have to pay twice to get things done right?

The reasons manufacturing jobs are going to China are numerous from lower pay to workers, less regulation, less taxes, and a whole plethora of other things. Manufacturing is fleeing California as fast as it can for elsewhere because of this. One of the worst things is nitpicking, meaningless, useless regulations that burden a business. In many larger cities this has become a revenue generator for both predatory law firms and government. If that weren't the case, and government acted in the best interests of society as a whole, maybe those jobs wouldn't flee for friendlier locales.

As for college... In my case the undergraduate degrees helped some, but not nearly as much as going through Nuclear Power training in the Navy. Yea, the GI bill made paying for college easy so I had no debt. That was a contractual benefit of military service, not something just handed to me for "free."

I can't change that you live in your parent's basement, or in a tent under a bridge using a computer at the nearest public library. That's on you and nobody else. That you hate society because you screwed your life up is not my, or anyone else's problem. It's yours, deal with it and stop blaming others.

Oh, I'll add this... Thursday I went to Scottsdale to do a bunch of electrical work on a house about a mile from Taliesin West, Frank Lloyd Wright's architectural college he started. The people in that house are long-term leasers / renters. I got the snob treatment from them as if I was nothing but low life help. I fixed everything up to code as required but told the GC I'm doing that stuff for if I have to go back there it's full price, not the "beer money" price I usually charge these days. That means $50 an hour + $20 per helper, and a 30% mark up on all materials. I get treated better in the barrio or ghetto. At least those people are appreciative I show up and fix their problems right.
The Black guy and his Hispanic wife in a shitbag apartment next to the railroad tracks and a warehouse district were thrilled that I came on short notice to restore their power the day before Thanksgiving without complaint so they could cook their meal. I think their two kids were too. I don't have to do any of that, but it keeps me active. So, take your tirade and shove it up your ass sideways.
 
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AssHatZombie said:
tariffs do work. you can add them to other countries as needed.
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Tariffs do work, to some degree. But do you know what works even better? Having whatever products you are charging other countries tariffs on to import being made in your own country instead. As for any farmers feeling the pinch because of China charging tariffs on food we send there, fuckem. Let them find a real job. Also, China is probably the most populace country in the world. It seems pretty stupid for them to make food more difficult to get. Maybe we should stop sending them any food. Let their country starve until they have a more reasonable population level.
 
overall said:
What kind of machines do you speak of. The robots? If they are doing something useful, I don't see much harm in them. There is only one thing harmful they can do. Which is to produce things that people really don't need. Though I did hear something interesting about some robots once. That some were so expensive to build and maintain, companies would have been better off just having human workers do whatever. Also, look at companies and the commercials they produce. Why do they do so? To make money. Most often, how are they trying to make money? By trying to sell to the American public that they want things that they really don't need.

What any civilization needs is employment for its populace. Human history is full of such examples of their labor. Hundreds of years ago a Spanish conquistador wrote back to Spain about an Incan wall-fortress that he said was more grand than anything to be found in Europe. To make work for the populace, there was also the great pyramids, the great wall and many other great public engineering projects. If necessary, we need the same sort of thing here. But instead our country ships jobs overseas. That is pure insanity. There is another way of dealing with such matters that countries have often employed. Warfare. We shouldn't go in that direction. Unless it was to just protect ourselves.

The main problem is that humans tend to have children. What happens to the children? For the most part, parents don't give a fuck. That's their problem. The parents just have to respond to their biological urges. Anything that happens after that they tend to just leave it in the lap of the gods. And for whoever makes whatever in this country, to be competitive, they are probably doing what they do as cheaply as possible to begin with. Do you think they want a newer and larger number of people doing what they're just getting by on as it is? I don't think so.

So the government must step in. That's their job. Whatever it takes, they must keep their people happy and employed. As well as trying to curb overpopulation. To which end, eugenics is necessary. But I doubt if anybody here would go along with that idea. The self centered fools. So for the time being, it looks like war is the only alternative the plutocrats are interested in. FDR got us involved in a war we shouldn't have gotten us involved in for economic reasons. (And on the wrong side!) I will show you a video where at the end he basically admits this. Because he said that if we didn't do what he wanted to do, there would be no peace in the world. As in what the world was fearing from us back then and what it would fear from us again in the future.



P.S. Obviously, globalization sucks ass.
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you're a fucking eugenicist nazi.
 
overall said:
Tariffs do work, to some degree. But do you know what works even better? Having whatever products you are charging other countries tariffs on to import being made in your own country instead. As for any farmers feeling the pinch because of China charging tariffs on food we send there, fuckem. Let them find a real job. Also, China is probably the most populace country in the world. It seems pretty stupid for them to make food more difficult to get. Maybe we should stop sending them any food. Let their country starve until they have a more reasonable population level.
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thsts the point of tariffs, to protect local production. you're a a propagandist.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Awwww.... Somebody is angry and has nothing but ad hominem to respond with.

As for boat rocking...

The man that owns the boat rarely has time to rock it...

It's the flotsam and jetsam that cause all the problems.

That you were / are stuck working as a "laborer" for people like me (and, yes I do hire day labor fairly regularly), you get a fair in cash wage for you labor but without me directing the job, planning the work, paying for the materials, doing all the administrative and liaison work involved, and solving problems as they arise, you wouldn't get paid at all. I can do your job but choose to hire and pay you to do it. You can't do mine and that's why I make more.

You are in no way "deserving of another $1200.00 stimulus check" any more than you were of the first one. No one "deserves" welfare or a handout. You might be legally entitled to it, but deserving of it? No.

Also, I'm not in favor of cheap Mexican labor for the most part, particularly in the trades. I see the sort of half assed work they do regularly and have to fix it. Why should someone have to pay twice to get things done right?

The reasons manufacturing jobs are going to China are numerous from lower pay to workers, less regulation, less taxes, and a whole plethora of other things. Manufacturing is fleeing California as fast as it can for elsewhere because of this. One of the worst things is nitpicking, meaningless, useless regulations that burden a business. In many larger cities this has become a revenue generator for both predatory law firms and government. If that weren't the case, and government acted in the best interests of society as a whole, maybe those jobs wouldn't flee for friendlier locales.

As for college... In my case the undergraduate degrees helped some, but not nearly as much as going through Nuclear Power training in the Navy. Yea, the GI bill made paying for college easy so I had no debt. That was a contractual benefit of military service, not something just handed to me for "free."

I can't change that you live in your parent's basement, or in a tent under a bridge using a computer at the nearest public library. That's on you and nobody else. That you hate society because you screwed your life up is not my, or anyone else's problem. It's yours, deal with it and stop blaming others.

Oh, I'll add this... Thursday I went to Scottsdale to do a bunch of electrical work on a house about a mile from Taliesin West, Frank Lloyd Wright's architectural college he started. The people in that house are long-term leasers / renters. I got the snob treatment from them as if I was nothing but low life help. I fixed everything up to code as required but told the GC I'm doing that stuff for if I have to go back there it's full price, not the "beer money" price I usually charge these days. That means $50 an hour + $20 per helper, and a 30% mark up on all materials. I get treated better in the barrio or ghetto. At least those people are appreciative I show up and fix their problems right.
The Black guy and his Hispanic wife in a shitbag apartment next to the railroad tracks and a warehouse district were thrilled that I came on short notice to restore their power the day before Thanksgiving without complaint so they could cook their meal. I think their two kids were too. I don't have to do any of that, but it keeps me active. So, take your tirade and shove it up your ass sideways.
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you're both on the same team.
 
overall said:
I hear talk on the news about progress being made towards another stimulus package. What pisses me off is that it doesn't include another round of $1200.00 dollar stimulus checks. After so many months of the economic mess the coronavirus has caused, do they think that people don't need the money? I know I sure as hell do. What is strange that Trump and the republicans were willing to do it and did so. But apparently Biden and the democrats don't give a fuck. I thought the democrats were supposed to want to help the poor.
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you're a fucking nazi. stfu.
 
overall said:
I hear talk on the news about progress being made towards another stimulus package. What pisses me off is that it doesn't include another round of $1200.00 dollar stimulus checks. After so many months of the economic mess the coronavirus has caused, do they think that people don't need the money? I know I sure as hell do. What is strange that Trump and the republicans were willing to do it and did so. But apparently Biden and the democrats don't give a fuck. I thought the democrats were supposed to want to help the poor.
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that's right. pretend 1200$ is a bigger deal than globalization. scum.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Awwww.... Somebody is angry and has nothing but ad hominem to respond with.

As for boat rocking...

The man that owns the boat rarely has time to rock it...

It's the flotsam and jetsam that cause all the problems.

That you were / are stuck working as a "laborer" for people like me (and, yes I do hire day labor fairly regularly), you get a fair in cash wage for you labor but without me directing the job, planning the work, paying for the materials, doing all the administrative and liaison work involved, and solving problems as they arise, you wouldn't get paid at all. I can do your job but choose to hire and pay you to do it. You can't do mine and that's why I make more.

You are in no way "deserving of another $1200.00 stimulus check" any more than you were of the first one. No one "deserves" welfare or a handout. You might be legally entitled to it, but deserving of it? No.

Also, I'm not in favor of cheap Mexican labor for the most part, particularly in the trades. I see the sort of half assed work they do regularly and have to fix it. Why should someone have to pay twice to get things done right?

The reasons manufacturing jobs are going to China are numerous from lower pay to workers, less regulation, less taxes, and a whole plethora of other things. Manufacturing is fleeing California as fast as it can for elsewhere because of this. One of the worst things is nitpicking, meaningless, useless regulations that burden a business. In many larger cities this has become a revenue generator for both predatory law firms and government. If that weren't the case, and government acted in the best interests of society as a whole, maybe those jobs wouldn't flee for friendlier locales.

As for college... In my case the undergraduate degrees helped some, but not nearly as much as going through Nuclear Power training in the Navy. Yea, the GI bill made paying for college easy so I had no debt. That was a contractual benefit of military service, not something just handed to me for "free."

I can't change that you live in your parent's basement, or in a tent under a bridge using a computer at the nearest public library. That's on you and nobody else. That you hate society because you screwed your life up is not my, or anyone else's problem. It's yours, deal with it and stop blaming others.

Oh, I'll add this... Thursday I went to Scottsdale to do a bunch of electrical work on a house about a mile from Taliesin West, Frank Lloyd Wright's architectural college he started. The people in that house are long-term leasers / renters. I got the snob treatment from them as if I was nothing but low life help. I fixed everything up to code as required but told the GC I'm doing that stuff for if I have to go back there it's full price, not the "beer money" price I usually charge these days. That means $50 an hour + $20 per helper, and a 30% mark up on all materials. I get treated better in the barrio or ghetto. At least those people are appreciative I show up and fix their problems right.
The Black guy and his Hispanic wife in a shitbag apartment next to the railroad tracks and a warehouse district were thrilled that I came on short notice to restore their power the day before Thanksgiving without complaint so they could cook their meal. I think their two kids were too. I don't have to do any of that, but it keeps me active. So, take your tirade and shove it up your ass sideways.
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Try to be less wordy when you reply. What you have to say isn't worth the trouble. As for rocking the boat, you missed the point. Next, if I had the money, I could do more than you could. As for the administrative stuff you talk about, it isn't that big of a deal. A trained monkey could do it. Physical labor is more difficult. Next, our government is rife with corporate welfare. And they get a LOT more than the poor do. So another $1200.00 dollar stimulus check? I say I do deserve it. Next, don't tell me you're one of those idiots who think nuclear power is a viable alternative to producing power. Also, there is no more GI bill. And selling yourself into slavery and possibly risking your life wasn't worth the price to get it.

Next, to hell with all those wage slave countries that we sent our jobs to. Along with their lax or nonexistent environmental regulations. And we need more regulations. Ones that are enforced. If any business doesn't like it, let them find something more environmentally friendly to do. Next, is the overpopulation in India, China, mexico or wherever my fault? Was the 2008 housing meltdown my fault? Was our country sending jobs to wage slave countries my fault? Etc, times zillions. So I will indeed blame others.

Next, you complain about people giving you the snob treatment and then do the same thing to me. I guess it's true what they say. Shit rolls downhill. As for the darkies you did work for, do such work for poor White people. You would be doing better. Need proof? I ran across a thread you should look at. Go to your advanced search and enter, "Are you guilty of murdering White children?" Read it and leave a reply in it. I will debate you about anything in it. And if you think that thread is bad, I don't think you have the slightest clue as to how bad things really are.
 
AssHatZombie said:
you're a fucking nazi. stfu.
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I'm not a Nazi. The Nazis were too nice. They didn't exterminate jews in death camps. Germany deported 60 to 70% of their jews to Palestine under the Haavara Agreement. Until war put an end to the program. Around 150,000 Jews actually fought for the Nazis. Nazi forces were more ethnically diverse than the allied forces were. The only reason the Nazis invaded Poland was because ethnic Germans were being murdered there. And the only reason they invaded Russia was because they found out that the Russians were getting ready to invade them. Oh I could go on and on with the real truth. And with many pictures to help prove it. But you are probably too brainwashed to be able to believe your own eyes. Nazi? No. I am a Vlad. Look at my avatar. Death is the only thing the stupid will understand.
 
overall said:
I'm not a Nazi. The Nazis were too nice. They didn't exterminate jews in death camps. Germany deported 60 to 70% of their jews to Palestine under the Haavara Agreement. Until war put an end to the program. Around 150,000 Jews actually fought for the Nazis. Nazi forces were more ethnically diverse than the allied forces were. The only reason the Nazis invaded Poland was because ethnic Germans were being murdered there. And the only reason they invaded Russia was because they found out that the Russians were getting ready to invade them. Oh I could go on and on with the real truth. And with many pictures to help prove it. But you are probably too brainwashed to be able to believe your own eyes. Nazi? No. I am a Vlad. Look at my avatar. Death is the only thing the stupid will understand.
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fuck off troll
 
AssHatZombie said:
that's right. pretend 1200$ is a bigger deal than globalization. scum.
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What's wrong with you. Did you wake up on the wrong side of the web or something? And don't put words into my mouth. I didn't say that globalization isn't a bad thing. But whatever is going on in that regard, a $1200.00 dollar stimulus check isn't going to make a damn bit of difference about it one way or another. Do you think I should be satisfied to sleep on a broken down old mattress until the globalization thing is settled? Or sleep on a pile of springs? What if it is never settled. Should I be satisfied with sleeping on the floor instead? And what about other poor people with needs. When I was a kid, I had to go a whole summer without shoes. There are probably many in this country in a similar situation who could use that $1200 dollar stimulus check. Maybe some kid needs a warm coat. No doubt, many do. For whatever anybody's needs, should everybody just fuck off and die until globalization is ended?
 
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