Ia person is a complete butt hole.

ThatOwlWoman said:
Hmm, care to elaborate in what ways you believe that he is "good"?

The problem with being a narcissistic and weak person is that you have a constant need for attention and applause. You base your decisions not on what is good for the people you are leading, but on how your decisions will play to your supporters.

Let's use immigration as an example. A narcissistic and weak POTUS will whip his base into frenzies over illegal immigration, promise to build giant walls to protect them (and make the country of origin pay for it nyuck nyuck). He won't look at all the good people and positive attributes they've brought. He will focus on crime, disease, filth, skin color, language, etc. to promote fear and anger. He will tell them that judges who are U.S. citizens who are of that ethnicity cannot be fair because of their ethnic background. He will refuse to work with the other side to craft a sensible reform plan that will allow *some* immigrants to remain or enter, but not all because we must care for our own citizens first. When nothing works he will move on to the next Concern Du Jour and repeat the process.

This isn't leadership. It's a h.s. bully trying to stay popular by appealing to the worst instincts of his ever-shrinking fan club.
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One is the economy, unemployment, getting countries to cover some of the cost of our stationing troops to help protect them. Those are just a few things he is doing right.
I don't like Trump but at least I'm willing to give credit where credit is due.
 
Eagle-Eye said:
One is the economy, unemployment, getting countries to cover some of the cost of our stationing troops to help protect them. Those are just a few things he is doing right.
I don't like Trump but at least I'm willing to give credit where credit is due.
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The economy was going gang-busters when he was sworn in. As far as the NATO/UN stuff, that could have been accomplished (if it was, which I seriously doubt) by any POTUS simply via negotiation and diplomacy, neither of which TRE45ON has a clue about.

Character matters. It matters whether you are merely an individual living a private life, or a CEO, or a POTUS. The higher you are in whatever hierarchy you find yourself, the more character matters. In the end, it matters more than wealth or place of birth or gender or appearance. Bluster and bullying can only take you so far.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I think we have to define "butt hole" first. What does that mean to most of us?

If we reach an agreement that "butt hole" = cruel, petty, weak, bullying, dishonest, cheating (in all senses of that word), rude, belligerent, unable to compromise, lacking in empathy then I would say no, that person is not a good person nor would he/she make a good leader in a modern ostensibly-free country like the U.S. Leading free people requires a lot of empathy -- understanding what issues they face and also how the opposition party feels about things. A good leader would ask him/herself: "How can I work with the other side to address these issues that concern our people?"

We haven't seen any of *that* around lately, at the top, eh?
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We saw none of it 2008-2016.

Oh, but that was "different"....

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Life is Golden said:
We saw none of it 2008-2016.

Oh, but that was "different"....

:laugh:
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Well... YOU saw none of that. :~)

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Oh wait. That was sarcasm, and my Acme SarcsMeter is in the shop!

Never mind. Most of us are appalled at the POS in our White House. I get it that you lurv him so hard. You're definitely unique. Most of us would not admit that they admire bullying, lying, dishonest, petty, braggart cheating SOBs.
 
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Right Wingski said:
You're a piece of shit,you don't no shit about kindness!
Is tomorrow going to be another MLK jr day,where you claim to be doing wonderful things all day.
But are here all day posting your bullshit!
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Some of us are better at lecturing than at practicing, eh? Some kindly Toxic advice:

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ThatOwlWoman said:
The economy was going gang-busters when he was sworn in. As far as the NATO/UN stuff, that could have been accomplished (if it was, which I seriously doubt) by any POTUS simply via negotiation and diplomacy, neither of which TRE45ON has a clue about.

Character matters. It matters whether you are merely an individual living a private life, or a CEO, or a POTUS. The higher you are in whatever hierarchy you find yourself, the more character matters. In the end, it matters more than wealth or place of birth or gender or appearance. Bluster and bullying can only take you so far.
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I beg to differ with you the economy was improving but it really took off after Trump took office. But let's say you are right. If Trump is as bad as you say he should have crashed the economy by now.
 
Eagle-Eye said:
I beg to differ with you the economy was improving but it really took off after Trump took office. But let's say you are right. If Trump is as bad as you say he should have crashed the economy by now.
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It seems like the economy is the only yardstick you want to use when it comes to Trump. Why?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
It seems like the economy is the only yardstick you want to use when it comes to Trump. Why?
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Simple. Everything else is subjective and open to interpretation I say he is doing well fighting terrorism you say he isn't I say we need a wall you say we don't.
 
Eagle-Eye said:
One is the economy, unemployment, getting countries to cover some of the cost of our stationing troops to help protect them. Those are just a few things he is doing right.
I don't like Trump but at least I'm willing to give credit where credit is due.
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Trump :
"You might not like me, but you have to vote for me"
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
So you're saying that LEOs were only murdered during Obama's tenure? Statistics don't back you up.
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No, I'm saying Obama supported those who murdered them and called for their killings.

He dog whistled from the White House and served the domestic terrorist group, Black Lies Matters, steak dinners.
 
Eagle-Eye said:
You pretty much got his personality down. I disagree that that automatically makes him a bad president. In some aspects yes in others no.
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You can't be a pathological liar and almost completely ignorant of both foreign and domestic policy and laws.... yet still be a good President.

Just because he hates the same foreigners that you do and is attempting to pack the courts with what he feels are right-wing extremist judges, does not make him by objective standards, a good President.

He only appeals to the lowest common denominator of society.
 
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