If Christianity is true, why is there so much evil in the world?
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USFREEDOM911
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USFREEDOM911
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LOL - and you had to go back that far!! LOL
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
but they were Episcopalians....
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
he didn't have to, but he chose to.....free will.......
Litmus
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are they going to resume sacrifices at the temple soon? the red heifer has appeared.
and btw, real god isn't a racist like jews say.
evince
Truthmatters
That's what free will means. By creating a measure for "good", evil is necessarily also created if free will allows one to choose a different option. While evil only exists through their God's creation ultimately, it is not an extension of God himself, it is the action of those to which he has given free will... Since the definition of Evil is literally "what is not God's will" it is impossible for the God to do evil himself...
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Truthmatters
then why didn't he create a better human being
UNDER believers theories GOD is all knowing and created everything
that means GOD planned and created evil
GOD created the wiring of the Human mind
he is responsible for how it was wired
the whole philosophy doesn't make sense
Ask him. The idea that God wanted a perfect being seems to be an incorrect assumption. So, if you begin with a belief in this Being, then you must take what is rather than ask hypothetical questions about what you think "should be". Clearly this Being, if such a one exists, wanted you to be able to make choices, even if they are sometimes choices he wouldn't make on your behalf. Much like a parent wants their child to make better choices.
Maybe this hypothetical Creator wanted children rather than automatons. Seems far more likely than the idea that a Being that could create all this simply made a mistake, but just on you (us, humans, whatever).
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Truthmatters
you said it
WHAT HE WANTED
evil was his choice in your theory
the concept is a failed set of beliefs in the face of logic
maybe just embrace what the theory was trying to do when invented
to make mankind bend towards kindness and love
then relgion wont bother the non religious so much
WHAT HE WANTED
evil was his choice in your theory
the concept is a failed set of beliefs in the face of logic
maybe just embrace what the theory was trying to do when invented
to make mankind bend towards kindness and love
then relgion wont bother the non religious so much
Again, in order to Create children you must give them choices. The idea that knowing that sometimes they would make poor choices means you wanted it or planned it is absurd. In the philosophy in question this Creator chose to make people with choices, to make children, not robots. Such a creator clearly could have made robots that would never do anything but what he wanted them to do, but thankfully (if this is a truth) did not and thus set into motion a world in which we could exist and choose between what the creator wants (good) or what the creator does not want (evil).
The idea that this means evil is an extension of God, then you should be punished for the actions of your children because they are an "extension" of you.
Under the philosophy in discussion they are. If you choose to do something different than what the Great Parent wants it is defined as evil. What God wants = Good, what God doesn't want = evil. You can make the choice = free will. Under this philosophy we create evil through our poor choices.
He's the Father.. In the philosophy he is The Parent. 1 John 3... Read it. I suggest the NIV, easier to understand. At this point I believe you have to be deliberately trying to misunderstand. I've made it as simple as possible. If your child does something you do not want them to, it isn't because you designed it. It is because they've disobeyed.
Just as we know that our children will not always do what we say yet we still have them. Even when we know that there is a worst case scenario.