If Christianity is true, why is there so much evil in the world?

maybe just embrace what the theory was trying to do when invented

to make mankind bend towards kindness and love


then relgion wont bother the non religious so much
 
evince said:
we did not construct our childrens brains

In the theory god did
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But we did choose to have them, even when we knew they would misbehave. In your "understanding" of this, this means that if your child breaks the law it is your fault and you created the crime.

In this particular philosophy God created children, not robots. Sometimes they misbehave.
 
Frank Apisa said:
YOUR god is the one that demands blood sacrifices.

YOUR god.
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im more of a gnostic christian. im actually spiritual not religious. all religions are magical systems that can produce good or evil, depending on intent. the power of the symbols comes from the emotional charge attached to them by the practitioner.
 
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Damocles said:
That's what free will means. By creating a measure for "good", evil is necessarily also created if free will allows one to choose a different option. While evil only exists through their God's creation ultimately, it is not an extension of God himself, it is the action of those to which he has given free will... Since the definition of Evil is literally "what is not God's will" it is impossible for the God to do evil himself...
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it is, obviously, disobedience.....
 
Exodus 22:18 Context

15But if the owner thereof be with it, he shall not make it good: if it be an hired thing, it came for his hire. 16And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife. 17If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins. 18Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. 19Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. 20He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. 21Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
 
Damocles said:
Again, in order to Create children you must give them choices. The idea that knowing that sometimes they would make poor choices means you wanted it or planned it is absurd. In the philosophy in question this Creator chose to make people with choices, to make children, not robots. Such a creator clearly could have made robots that would never do anything but what he wanted them to do, but thankfully (if this is a truth) did not and thus set into motion a world in which we could exist and choose between what the creator wants (good) or what the creator does not want (evil).
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You keep talking of "evil" rather than of "sin."

There is a difference.

In any case..."sin" is doing something that offends a god...or in this case, THE god.

And, in this case, we are speaking of GREAT EVIL being perfectly okay with the god (not sin)*...while things NOT EVIL as being very offensive to the god (sin)**.

If such a god exists...somehow the people to whom its message was given...fucked it up considerably.

If that is the case...any information we have on the god is unreliable.

The idea that this means evil is an extension of God, then you should be punished for the actions of your children because they are an "extension" of you.
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The "god" suggest it does just that!

* Killing people with whom we disagree about gods...and the will of the gods.

** Jerking-off.
 
AssHatZombie said:
im more of a gnostic christian. im actually spiritual not religious. all religions are magical systems that can produce good or evil, depending on intent. the power of the symbols comes from the emotional charge attached to them by the practitioner.
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Whatever.

If you are a Christian...if you worship or profess love for the god for which Jesus worshiped or professed love...

...you are worshiping and professing love for a god that demands blood sacrifices.
 
Frank Apisa said:
You keep talking of "evil" rather than of "sin."

There is a difference.

In any case..."sin" is doing something that offends a god...or in this case, THE god.

And, in this case, we are speaking of GREAT EVIL being perfectly okay with the god (not sin)*...while things NOT EVIL as being very offensive to the god (sin)**.

If such a god exists...somehow the people to whom its message was given...fucked it up considerably.

If that is the case...any information we have on the god is unreliable.



The "god" suggest it does just that!

* Killing people with whom we disagree about gods...and the will of the gods.

** Jerking-off.
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God is very complex... Good and merciful and then ruthlessly cruel and evil.
 
If Christianity is true, why is there so much evil in the world?

It is because the likes of Grugore have been conditioned to believe they have Free Will, and can therefore support capitalism and still pretend to be Christians, obviously! :) They even believe they can support Trumpf!
 
kudzu said:
No.. not sarcasm.

God ordered the destruction of the Canaanites down to the babies and livestock .. They were urban and prosperous compared to the Hebrews.
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Okay...then I thank you for sharing your blind guess that there is a "god"...and that it is very complex...good and merciful and then ruthlessly cruel and evil.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Okay...then I thank you for sharing your blind guess that there is a "god"...and that it is very complex...good and merciful and then ruthlessly cruel and evil.
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Just going by what the Bible teaches.. not my blind guess. Most the the epic Bible stories start off with the slaughter of innocents.
 
kudzu said:
Just going by what the Bible teaches.. not my blind guess. Most the the epic Bible stories start off with the slaughter of innocents.
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You certainly ARE making a blind guess that a god exists.

You probably are basing it on a blind guess that "the Bible" is the word of this god...rather than that it is a book filled with the blind guesses of relatively primitive, relatively unsophisticated,relatively uninformed, superstitious people.

But it most assuredly is nothing but blind guessing.
 
Frank Apisa said:
You certainly ARE making a blind guess that a god exists.

You probably are basing it on a blind guess that "the Bible" is the word of this god...rather than that it is a book filled with the blind guesses of relatively primitive, relatively unsophisticated,relatively uninformed, superstitious people.

But it most assuredly is nothing but blind guessing.
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You sure are assuming a lot. I know the Bible fairly well.. I also think it was written by men.. The blood sacrifice thing is very pagan even back to Azazel.
 
kudzu said:
Just going by what the Bible teaches.. not my blind guess. Most the the epic Bible stories start off with the slaughter of innocents.
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is that really what Episcopalian atheists believe the Bible teaches?........that isn't your blind guess........its your blind choice.......the Bible I am familiar with teaches that God created everything, people fucked it up and God sacrificed for us, to fix it......
 
kudzu said:
You sure are assuming a lot. I know the Bible fairly well.. I also think it was written by men.. The blood sacrifice thing is very pagan even back to Azazel.
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you've just shown you don't know it at all.......very sad to know the Episcopalians failed you.......
 
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