If we never had democracy, does that mean our votes never counted?

[Mason Michaels]

According to The Bird Trio, America was never a democratic country.

So that means our votes did not count ever?

Corporate Capitalism has made Democracy impotent.

 

[AProudLefty]

Corporate Capitalism has made Democracy impotent.

I agree. The GOP is compromised.

 

[Mason Michaels]

Trump didn't conduct any coup. Democrats did.

 

[Mason Michaels]

I agree. The GOP is compromised.

Don't kid yourself, Corporate Capitalism will buy off whoever wins.Republicans just don't even pretend they are on the take.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

This is a surprisingly good explanation of why our system completely sucks, even though it wasn't intended to be such an explanation.

it is amusing that you consider your sort "educated".......

 

[Into the Night]

Another pointless contribution. But thanks for the bump.

Inversion fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

America has called itself a democracy since the beginning. Madison called it that. We recognize that can be defined away. Republicans do that and think the Dems do not understand it. We do not have a majority rule presidential election. That is sad and curable. But rightys will fight ending the electoral college.

The United States was never a democracy. It never called itself a democracy. A democracy has no constitution. You don't get to speak for the dead.
The President is not elected by popular vote. Discard of the Constitution of the United States.

 

[AProudLefty]

Inversion fallacy.

Version 2.0 fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

The electoral system that we've used for 250 years was complete pigshit, and now it has really caught up to us.

Nope. It's part of the Constitution. It is law. It has a purpose.

 

[Into the Night]

This thread is about the type of democracy we have in America. Into The Grave keep repeating that America was never a democracy. We know that it was never a pure or direct democracy. It's just dumb.

There is no such thing as a 'pure' or 'direct' democracy. Buzzword fallacies. A democracy is government by popular vote and has no representatives or constitution. The United States was never a democracy. Redefinition fallacies (oligarchy<->democracy).

 

[Into the Night]

I'd get rid of the states.

Then the intelligent urban people would have the power that their numbers should have.

Out system is cracker-friendly enough to have turned our republic into a complete dumpster fire. And that's exactly what it is right now.

Racism. Redefinition fallacies (urban<->intelligence, oligarchy<->republic).

 

[Into the Night]

Yeah it has been working since 1776. We have been electing our representatives that we trust to run our country. But right now the Electoral College is outdated.

The Constitution does not become outdated.

 

[Into the Night]

I'd just get rid of California and New York.......

Not States of the Union. New York is currently an oligarchy. California is currently a dictatorship.
Neither recognizes the Constitution of the United States nor their own State constitutions.

 

[AProudLefty]

The Constitution does not become outdated.

I did not mention the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

Corporate Capitalism has made Democracy impotent.

Redefinition fallacies (corporation<->capitalism, oligarchy<->democracy, capitalism<->evil).

 

[Into the Night]

Of course, you would, as would most illiterate crackers.
There are educated people all over those states.

Redefinition fallacies (education<->intelligence, dictatorship<->republic, oligarchy<->republic). Racism.

 

[Into the Night]

This is a surprisingly good explanation of why our system completely sucks, even though it wasn't intended to be such an explanation.

So you don't States should be represented. Gotit.

 

[Into the Night]

Version 2.0 fallacy.

Mockery. Trolling.

 

[AProudLefty]

Mockery. Trolling.

Mimicry. Gnoming.

 

[Into the Night]

Mimicry. Gnoming.

Mockery. Trolling.