Ignorance and the Bible

Cypress said:
I know that.
The Trinity doesn't bother me as much as it does you. I can't get all worked about it.

Given the totality of revelation and Church doctrine, a belief that God entered history in human form and a divine spark within us guides the conscience doesn't lead me to condemn Christians as barely sentient irrational fools. It's just not something that's going to make me irritated.

When you get right down to it, atheist explanations of reality are just as miraculous: reason and conscience comes from inanimate quarks and electrons, and the universe popped into existence by random inanimate chance.

whether Jesus claimed to be God during his ministry isn't something I am going to get worked up over. Christians think he did.

It's unfathomable that atheists get stressed out about this

Obviously the resurrection sealed the deal. Jesus' brother James thought it was all bullshit, until he became convinced he saw his brother after the crucifixion. It's obvious from the epistles that the earliest Christians from the earliest days of the Church in Jerusalem thought Christ was lord.
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No physicist ever claims the universe popped into existence. You keep making that up.

Reason and consciousness are part of being a living human. You’ll have to educate yourself on how babies are made.

Yep, Christians think he did claim to be God. Thst’s merely another example of where an atheist knows more about their holy book than they do.
 
Cypress said:
I have no evidence Joel Osteen is a criminal, and I don't doubt some people appreciate him.


He obviously has a taste for material wealth and luxury that doesn't seem consistent with a spiritual life.
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Cypress said:
I have no evidence Joel Osteen is a criminal, and I don't doubt some people appreciate him.


He obviously has a taste for material wealth and luxury that doesn't seem consistent with a spiritual life.
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No he's not a criminal, but ethics could be better
 
domer76 said:
No physicist ever claims the universe popped into existence. You keep making that up.
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Now you're choosing to be agnostic about the origin of everything?
It's only important what you think, research physicists aren't posting on this thread.

The universe had a beginning. It's not infinitely old, according to the BGV theorem.

As an atheist, you only believe in matter and energy, and that all causes have an inanimate material cause.

Therefore your belief system necessarily is that the universe popped into existence by inanimate chance.
domer76 said:
Reason and consciousness are part of being a living human. You’ll have to educate yourself on how babies are made.
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Resorting to insults when my responses have been measured?

"Because we're human beings!" is not an explanation for how inanimate electrons and quarks cause reason, conscience, abstract thought. It's circular reasoning. You haven't explained anything physically or chemically.
domer76 said:
Yep, Christians think he did claim to be God. Thst’s merely another example of where an atheist knows more about their holy book than they do.
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I doubt you are as informed as you think you are, since you don't really get the Trinity, and you didn't know about the Great Commission of Jesus to his followers to spread the gospel to all the humans of the world. You also don't seem to know much about the Epistles.
 
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Margot said:
No he's not a criminal, but ethics could be better
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Trump is an atheist and moral relativist. He can be as greedy as he wants if it suits him.

Osteen is hoarding wealth and material possession in a manner that seems in direct contradiction with the teachings of Jesus.
 
Hume said:
You are the only person I have ever seen make this argument.
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I've always read that the Trinity is not three separate entities, but manifestations of a single divine substance.

It's always seemed analogous to Hinduism which has a pantheon of different deities, but they are all just manifestations of the single universal spirit, Brahman.
 
Cypress said:
Trump is an atheist and moral relativist. He can be as greedy as he wants if it suits him.

Osteen is hoarding wealth and material possession in a manner that seems in direct contradiction with the teachings of Jesus.
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Maybe so! But what Christian Pastors, are wondering around without I dime in their pocket! Joel is just a bit more obvious!
Trump pretends to be Chosen by YHWH to fool the simpleminded,fake Christian Republican Evangicals!
Many of these TV preachers start out sincere, but when the money rolls end and the TV time bills come in,they end up in A vicious cycle.
 
Cypress said:
I've always read that the Trinity is not three separate entities, but manifestations of a single divine substance.

It's always seemed analogous to Hinduism which has a pantheon of different deities, but they are all just manifestations of the single universal spirit, Brahman.
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