It's Time To Go Single-Payer!

People who can't afford to pay for their own goods and services don't have a right to force me to help pay for theirs.

If you admire government-controlled healthcare in other places, renounce your US citizenship and emigrate.

I don't know that "can't" is the issue. They can pay for anything else they want.
 
Where in the Constitution did the founder write the words "food stamps", "government housing", etc.? I can't find them.

the general wealfare

they wrote the post office right in to the constitution


their intents are cystal clear on the general wealfare
 
the general wealfare

they wrote the post office right in to the constitution


their intents are cystal clear on the general wealfare

If it was as clear as you say, those terms would have been in the Constitution. When you have to so loosely interpret such a thing, it proves nothing other than that's what you WANT it to say.
 
they are asshole

how did they want the Post Office paid for because they saw it as for the general wealfare?


by citizens you fucking idiot


back in their day everyone grew and hunted their own food


they would be big supporters of wealfare today idiot
 
they are asshole

how did they want the Post Office paid for because they saw it as for the general wealfare?


by citizens you fucking idiot


back in their day everyone grew and hunted their own food


they would be big supporters of wealfare today idiot

The things you support as general welfare aren't listed in the Constitution. You've shown they aren't be being unable to show me certain terms I named.

The post office is under the delegated powers of Congress not the implied ones you have to loosely interpret so some freeloader unwilling to buy his own food and support his own kids can eat.

I hunt and most of the meat I consume comes from the rewards of the hunt. I also have about a 1/4 acre garden on my property where I grow enough food for my family with enough to give to others of my choosing.

That means I could survive and you'd starve to death.
 
dear fucking idiot ,

the constitution does not need idiots like you to be able to understand it to work as planned


there are people with enough brain cells to understand it for you


your one vote is not how Democracy works mouthpooper


fuck you very much
 
dear fucking idiot ,

the constitution does not need idiots like you to be able to understand it to work as planned


there are people with enough brain cells to understand it for you


your one vote is not how Democracy works mouthpooper


fuck you very much

When are you going to show me the terms "food stamp" and "government housing" you claim are in the Constitution?

When you can, I'll support them. As long as you loosely interpret the Constitution for what you want it to say, you fund those things. Deal?
 
Math troubles? you would save money. healthcare in other countries is better and costs half as much, or less. You would save money and get better care. But that worries you. Trying to save you money, but logic and math elude you.
 
Math troubles? you would save money. healthcare in other countries is better and costs half as much, or less. You would save money and get better care. But that worries you. Trying to save you money, but logic and math elude you.

I get excellent care now and for a low price.

Interesting how you say WOULD save yet don't prove how much. Math troubles or providing proof troubles?
 
Dumbo. the bill does not exist. people like you keep voting for parties that want to reward drug companies, health insurance companies and medical professionals. However every fucking industrial country has single payer. They get better results. have a healthier population and and do it for half our costs. Even you should be able to analyze those facts. Even the Republican party was crying about how health cost was destroying the country and changes had to be made. But Obama tried it. Instead of getting involved in making it better. They sabotaged it. It was a first step in a country that has to suffer dealing with people like you. No information on the subject. Just know you hate it.
 
people like you keep voting for parties that want to reward drug companies, health insurance companies and medical professionals.

Why shouldn't they be rewarded? I'll understand if you can't explain.

However every fucking industrial country has single payer. They get better results. have a healthier population and and do it for half our costs.

Renounce your US citizenship and move to one of those other countries if that's how you feel.
 
...... people like you keep voting for parties that want to reward drug companies, health insurance companies and medical professionals.

The biggest gift to health insurance companies and drug companies was the Affordable Care Act. Obama agreed to the mandates in return for their support.
 
Maybe you should do a little fact-checking, Nerdberg.


Officials say extreme pressure on Britain's hospital system means many procedures must be put off for weeks.

National Health Service officials are telling hospitals to delay procedures to free up staff and beds to deal with emergency patients.

The restrictions are set to last until at least the end of January and are predicted to affect around 55,000 operations.

Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt apologized for the problems.

"It is absolutely not what I want," he told Sky News. He said there is no question the hospitals are facing real pressures at the moment.

NHS director Bruce Keogh says the pressures may increase because of "early signs" of spreading flu.

Many hospitals are operating at or near full capacity, with reports of long waits for treatment in emergency rooms.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/badly-strained-uk-hospitals-delay-non-urgent-procedures-102502267.html
 
Ever call to get a doctors appointment in America? I do and I can get one in about 3 weeks. I had an appointment with a specialist for a spot on my back. Appointment was 6 weeks later. We have long delays for healthcare too. But once they get care, they do not go bankrupt after. I have a Canadian friend who got a heart transplant. No cost. Has had it for a decade. I have lots of Canadian friends and family. When I say, would you like your care traded for America's I get hooted out of the room. The American system is the worst possible. The wealthy get great care. But then, that is the real America isn't it?

American healthcare system is the joke of the world. What do health insurance companies add to the equation? Only complexity and cost. They are in the healthcare denial business. Deny the care you paid for and they make more profit. They cannot resist that. Get sick and spend time playing phone tag . They will fight you every step .
 
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Ever call to get a doctors appointment in America? I do and I can get one in about 3 weeks. I had an appointment with a specialist for a spot on my back. Appointment was 6 weeks later. We have long delays for healthcare too. But once they get care, they do not go bankrupt after. I have a Canadian friend who got a heart transplant. No cost. Has had it for a decade. I have lots of Canadian friends and family. When I say, would you like your care traded for America's I get hooted out of the room. The American system is the worst possible. The wealthy get great care. But then, that is the real America isn't it? American healthcare system is the joke of the world. What do health insurance companies add to the equation? Only complexity and cost. They are in the healthcare denial business. Deny the care you paid for and they make more profit. They cannot resist that. Get sick and spend time playing phone tag . They will fight you every step .

Cool stories.

When are you moving to Canada?
 
Feel? Is that what you said? feel? It is simple facts. When did I indicate how I felt about it ? We get worse results and pay double. Is that a feeling? they have healthier populations , not walking around with untreated diabetes and high blood pressure. Is that a feeling?
 
When Trump's voters figure out that it's their health care that Trump is getting rid of they're probably not going to be happy

It's time to actually apply our brains. The only people who will "lose" healthcare are people who don't get the subsidies and chose not to buy the most craptacular insurance forced upon them. The reality is, there won't be any super needy folk suddenly losing their "insurance" because those folk have a subsidy.
 
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