Jesus Christ as God and the Trinity Was Not Invented Until the Fourth Century?

[Fentoine Lum]

The straw that broke the camel's back was when Jesus said to his accusers!
"Before Abraham I AM"
This simple answer drove his accusers up a wall,because they knew YHWH told Moses,tell them ,I AM who I AM.
Jesus saying "Before Abraham I AM",clearly said Jesus was saying he was YHWH incarnated into the flesh.

... threatening to the authorities.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

I'd rather be a slave to Christ than rule the world. You, on the other hand, are a slave to sin. I pity you.

Well as long as we slaves all pity each other, then it worked the way religion is supposed to.

 

[Jack]

The straw that broke the camel's back was when Jesus said to his accusers!
"Before Abraham I AM"
This simple answer drove his accusers up a wall,because they knew YHWH told Moses,tell them ,I AM who I AM.
Jesus saying "Before Abraham I AM",clearly said Jesus was saying he was YHWH incarnated into the flesh.

Uh, yeah.

 

[Jack]

I'd rather be a slave to Christ than rule the world. You, on the other hand, are a slave to sin. I pity you.

I would rather you be a slave to Christ to. Docile people are easy to control. They do what they're told.

 

[evince]

I Love his ideas of peace and love


you love to pretend you will live forever

this

 

[Fentoine Lum]

this

Yeah that "hit" with it's "impact" the first time.

 

[Mason Michaels]

... threatening to the authorities.

And to the leaders of organized religion

 

[evince]

I'd rather be a slave to Christ than rule the world. You, on the other hand, are a slave to sin. I pity you.

jesus taught love



I accept his wisdom


You have accepted someone elses interpitation of his message in return for thinking you will live forever


If that was not offered you would ignore Jesus

 

[Jack]

jesus taught love



I accept his wisdom


You have accepted someone elses interpitation of his message in return for thinking you will live forever


If that was not offered you would ignore Jesus

Jesus taught 'submission'.

'Turn the other cheek'.
'The Last shall be First'.
'Give Caesar what is Caesar's'.
'Forgive your trespassers'.

If Jesus would have been President during 9/11, he would have 'turned the other cheek' and 'forgiven his trespassers'.

Real people, pragmatic people, people that live in the Real World, ... they go to Pakistan and clarify the situation.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

And to the leaders of organized religion

... especially.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

jesus taught love



I accept his wisdom


You have accepted someone elses interpitation of his message in return for thinking you will live forever


If that was not offered you would ignore Jesus

Perhaps he has merely observed followers like you, you're not about love at all.

 

[Grugore]

How about getting back on topic? Atheists claim that Jesus as God was not introduced until the fourth century. I have presented proof that they are wrong. No one has tried to refute this. Anyone care to try, rather than deflecting and insults? I mean, that's what grown-ups do.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

How about getting back on topic? Atheists claim that Jesus as God was not introduced until the fourth century. I have presented proof that they are wrong. No one has tried to refute this. Anyone care to try, rather than deflecting and insults? I mean, that's what grown-ups do.

I don't much give a fuck when it started.

 

[evince]

How about getting back on topic? Atheists claim that Jesus as God was not introduced until the fourth century. I have presented proof that they are wrong. No one has tried to refute this. Anyone care to try, rather than deflecting and insults? I mean, that's what grown-ups do.

who fucking claims that idiot?


there are no gods or monsters


there is no proof of your beliefs

 

[evince]

Perhaps he has merely observed followers like you, you're not about love at all.

I give you tuff love when you embrace lies

 

[Grugore]

who fucking claims that idiot?


there are no gods or monsters


there is no proof of your beliefs

You'll be singing a different tune on Judgement Day.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

I give you tuff love when you embrace lies

You swear like a sailor in endless hissyfits when you are disagreed with, that's all.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

You'll be singing a different tune on Judgement Day.

There is no judgement day and I'll probably always be partial to blues, blues rock, and blues based southern rock regardless.

 

[Ross Dolan]

The straw that broke the camel's back was when Jesus said to his accusers!
"Before Abraham I AM"
This simple answer drove his accusers up a wall,because they knew YHWH told Moses,tell them ,I AM who I AM.
Jesus saying "Before Abraham I AM",clearly said Jesus was saying he was YHWH incarnated into the flesh.

The Gospel of John! Might as well have been written by Lewis Carroll.

Even scholarly Christians reject it and consider almost ALL of the quotes attributed to Jesus...to be fraudulent.

 

[Ross Dolan]

I'd rather be a slave to Christ than rule the world. You, on the other hand, are a slave to sin. I pity you.

"Sin!"

That is something a human does that offends that god of yours...which is goddam near EVERYTHING humans do other than kiss the god's ass.

And the god supposedly was willing to forgive humans for offending it...

...but only on the condition that humans first torture and kill its son.

Jesus H. Christ.

First you people guess there is a GOD...and then you give it attributes that would land it in an insane asylum if it were a human.

Doesn't that bother you?