Jews, we need to speak out against DeSantis’ efforts to erase Black history

[NiftyNiblick]

Dutch calls DeSantis "Team Normal."

If that's actually true, we need an asteroid hit to obliterate this ridiculous planet.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

No. But the part of Christianity I like is that sense of self-analysis engendered by the myth of "original sin". It's always a good thing to remember: you aren't a god. You are just a person. Flaws and all.

If you can't understand this simple concept you probably don't even understand Christianity which is why you constantly attack Christianity and mock it.

you seem to be wandering off course somewhere......no one has denied what Christianity teaches.......we only pointed out your misrepresentations about guilt were inaccurate....the purpose of Christian doctrine is not to leave people mired in guilt, as is true with CRT.......the purpose of Christian doctrine is to offer hope......

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Dutch calls DeSantis "Team Normal."

If that's actually true, we need an asteroid hit to obliterate this ridiculous planet.

why do you hate humanity?

do you think it make you seem smart?

 

[Saint Guinefort]

im just wondering if the people adjudicating a death sentence on poor people have any flaws.

Eugenecists aren't a thing anymore. That was late 19th century. Check a calendar, it's 2023.

why can't you answer, nazi bitch?

Because it's a stupid question.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

The purpose of Christian doctrine is similar to the purpose of Islamic doctrine to the Taliban.

Islam is newer, so they're now doing the stuff that the Inquisition did a few centuries ago.

This is all pretty fucking obvious, actually.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

why do you hate humanity?

Let me guess: anyone who even mildly disagrees with you is either a "nazi bitch" or "hates humanity".


You might want to get some help.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

it's also actually crony capitalism. there's still goods and services, there are just huge fascist cartels dominating all markets.

Of course... With power comes corruption. With absolute power comes absolute corruption...

 

[NiftyNiblick]

why do you hate humanity?

do you think it make you seem smart?

Humanity obviously lacks adequate standards when such as yourself is included within it.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

we only pointed out your misrepresentations about guilt were inaccurate

You are simply wrong.

....the purpose of Christian doctrine is not to leave people mired in guilt, as is true with CRT.......the purpose of Christian doctrine is to offer hope......

NOpe. The purpose of guilt in Christianity is to remind you you are fallen. Flawed. That you can't EARN your way to redemption.

CRT at least holds out the hope that you can LEARN AND CHANGE

BOTH REQUIRE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE NOT PERFECT.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Nope. The purpose of guilt in Christianity is to remind you you are fallen. Flawed. That you can't EARN your way to redemption.

Salvation by faith alone is one of humanity's dumbest ever concepts.
From what we're being saved is one of humanity's under-asked question.

Consider the infinite length of eternity, and then explain how anybody--even Adolph Hitler--can earn eternal damnation in a very short human lifetime.

People will believe anything, which is one reason to realize that human's can't possibly be the ultimate destination of evolution.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

Salvation by faith alone is one of humanity's dumbest ever concepts.

Actually I disagree. While I don't believe in the whole supernatural thing, I think that it is a really cool concept. That we understand at all times that we are prone to error. That we are flawed beings. We cannot expect perfection from ourselves or from others. And it's up to us to grant each other "grace" remembering that we are ALL flawed. In a sense I think that's actually kinda cool.

From what we're being saved is one of humanity's under-asked question.

But if you think about it in terms of something like CRT it is clear what our "sin" is. We carry with us some degree of racism within us. It is incumbent upon us to know what our forebears have done and to ensure we LEARN from that so that we may do better. But we must also all realize we will never achieve perfection (we can't), but we SURELY can make things better for those around us.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

actually, the reason he called you a fucking idiot is because you know so little about the topic. By the way, I believe AssHat is on record as being an atheist, unless he's had a recent conversion.......

Who cares who is an atheist. Most athiests know more about Christianity than Christians.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

But if you think about it in terms of something like CRT it is clear what our "sin" is. We carry with us some degree of racism within us. It is incumbent upon us to know what our forebears have done and to ensure we LEARN from that so that we may do better. But we must also all realize we will never achieve perfection (we can't), but we SURELY can make things better for those around us.

Racism is universal among all races, as is exploitation and persecution.
The sins of Euro-Americans are obvious in terms of slavery and then Jim Crow.
But what is the history of black people with power over others?
Aren't black Islamists still circumcising little girls in Africa?

Our big problem is putting expectations on a scale.
If we apply the same minimum standards to everybody regardless of background,
it may be unfair to some,
but it would eventually improve our species.

Our species is in desperate need of improvement;
but given the number of generations that we probably have left,
considering the condition of our planet,
maybe it isn't worth the effort.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

Racism is universal among all races, as is exploitation and persecution.
The sins of Euro-Americans are obvious in terms of slavery and then Jim Crow.
But what is the history of black people with power over others?
Aren't black Islamists still circumcising little girls in Africa?

But that isn't the point. The point of CRT is NOT to find everyone's sins but to understand OUR HISTORY with regards to race. I couldn't care less how evil some one else is, so long as I attempt to NOT BE EVIL MYSELF. And the only way to do that is to understand what has been done in my name and what has "benefited" me. Systemic racism has done all that within my lifetime.

Our species is in desperate need of improvement;

I agree. The larger point you make that all people have some flaw in them is absolutely true. But that doesn't make CRT any less valuable just because some other society at some other time did some other evil.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

It has been suggested by some sociologists that...is the only way to present CRT.

Too many educators substitute propaganda for education, and I saw that plainly in 1950s McCarthyism era grade school.
Sadly it's mothing new, and it can even be recognized by a reasonably intelligent ten-year-old who's not discouraged from questioning things.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Humanity obviously lacks adequate standards when such as yourself is included within it.

you need to go in for an exorcism.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Let me guess: anyone who even mildly disagrees with you is either a "nazi bitch" or "hates humanity".


You might want to get some help.

no, just rosie o'donnell.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Eugenecists aren't a thing anymore. That was late 19th century. Check a calendar, it's 2023.



Because it's a stupid question.

wrong.

eugenics is alive an well in the depopulation movement that mass murderers say is about climate.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

wrong.

eugenics is alive an well in the depopulation movement that mass murderers say is about climate.

Oh grow up! There are a few vocal loons who want to "depopulate". It's like suggesting you are a Nazi because you vote Republican and occasionally there is a Neo-Nazi Republican.

You guys will literally blow ANYTHING up to a CRISIS won't you? You guys are the world's biggest DRAMA QUEENS. LOL.

Jeezus

 

[Walt]

Of course. All fascists and authoritarians need scapegoats.

You are 100% right.