John Edwards

"The irony (to me at least) is Edward's charging a state backed college who recently raised student tution that much money."

Shame, Shame, Shame on you for misleadling....
 
I'm really annoyed at the whole haircut thing. I don't know how hard it is to contact the actual campaigns, but I'm going to try and do that today. I will say that I am a freelance political writer, doing a story on the haircuts of all of the candidates, and then ask each of them how much they paid for their last haircut. I'm also going to ask them if they get manicures. I will say I'm working on a piece to be called "Can a Metrosexual Protect you from Terrorists?" I will let you know if I accomplish anything other than getting a wiretap placed on my phone.
 
"The irony (to me at least) is Edward's charging a state backed college who recently raised student tution that much money."

Shame, Shame, Shame on you for misleadling....


"The irony (to me at least) is Edward's charging a state backed college who recently raised student tution that much money."


Good catch USC. This was an inaccurate statement. The people who CHOSE to attend with their own money, paid for it. Not the taxpayer or university.
 
I'm really annoyed at the whole haircut thing. I don't know how hard it is to contact the actual campaigns, but I'm going to try and do that today. I will say that I am a freelance political writer, doing a story on the haircuts of all of the candidates, and then ask each of them how much they paid for their last haircut. I'm also going to ask them if they get manicures. I will say I'm working on a piece to be called "Can a Metrosexual Protect you from Terrorists?" I will let you know if I accomplish anything other than getting a wiretap placed on my phone.


a 400 dollar haircut is stupid.

But is this really all the repugs have? Haircuts and electricity bills at Gore's house?

Sad.
 
I am not against government programs that provide tools rather than provide items, other than temporarily. Education is one of the main things I promote. As well as choice in education. One size fits all can never be thought of as the best way to educate children.

I do laugh at the "blame it on Rs" thing, the "war on poverty" began with a D Pres with a D congress, the congress was maintained by the Ds for a very long stretch of this period. Attempting to say it is all Rs fault is simply laughable and very misleading.

I know when the war on poverty started, but LBJ never got to fully fund it to its fruition. The darned Vietnam war getting in the way, he ended up funding the same guys we always fund; the military industrial complex. Funny how that works out.

I was using the analogy of how marvelously stupid it is for people to actually vote for the guy who says "Vote for me to occupy a position and I'll prove to you that the position is useless". I mean, you couldn't get any other job that way. But I wasn't blaming Republicans for the failure of anti-poverty initiatives.

I could, though. There is plenty of blame for those bastards.
 
a 400 dollar haircut is stupid.

But is this really all the repugs have? Haircuts and electricity bills at Gore's house?

Sad.

It may be stupid, but what I don't believe it is, is rare. I'm going to try and find out, that wasn't a joke. Who else has asked? Nobody to my knowledge. It's amazing what you can find out if you ask.
 
Are you sure they sold tickets?

But Martin of the Mondavi Center said that "as with any other performer, (the speaking fee) has to be negotiated, and there are a long list of considerations ... some of our speakers get more, and some get less."

He said UC Davis' Mondavi Center paid Edwards because at the time "he wasn't a (presidential) candidate and from our point of view, he was a speaker of interest that people in the community were clearly interested in ... we feel it's our mission to present those speakers."
 
Are you sure they sold tickets?


Yes, I suspected the blog wasn't reporting all the facts. First the article states that the fee came out to $31 dollars a person. That suggest that people who CHOSE to attend paid for it.

Didn't you go to college Damo? These speaking events occur, by selling tickets to the general public.

Also I went online to the UC Davie Aggie (the campus newspaper), and they reported that tickets for the event started at 17.50, and went up from there.
 
Yes, I suspected the blog wasn't reporting all the facts. First the article states that the fee came out to $31 dollars a person. That suggest that people who CHOSE to attend paid for it.

Didn't you go to college Damo? These speaking events occur, by selling tickets to the general public.

Also I went online to the UC Davie Aggie (the campus newspaper), and they reported that tickets for the event started at 17.50, and went up from there.
No, the story simply divided the amount paid by person attended, it did not say that they bought tickets. That does not necessarily mean that the crowd paid enough to reimburse the college, or even that they sold tickets.

Hence my question.
 
Well Damo, that's why you shouldn't always trust opinion blogs.

I went to the campus newspaper, and they reported that tickets for the event were on SALE to the general public.
 
They haven't made poverty the central theme of their campaigns.

It's a bit like managing a hedge fund to learn about poverty...

So, just because you are rich and make a lot of money, you cant know about or discuss how to fix poverty?

At least Edwards was not always rich. He made his money himself.
 
CALIFORNIA AGGIE: "Demand is high for tickets, which are available at the Mondavi Center box office or at MondaviArts.org. Student prices begin at $17.50.

So the absolute cheapest ticket you could by, even with a student discount was 17.50. Ticket prices evidently went up from the nose bleed seats, and the general public didn't recieve a student discount.

If, what over 1500 people attended, I'd say that virutally all the speaking fee was paid for by students and the general public who CHOSE to attend. It wasn't paid for by taxpayers

http://media.www.californiaaggie.co...o.Speak.At.Mondavi.Center-1308441-page2.shtml
 
I wonder if that darned liberal college pocketed some of the money and did not give it all to Edwards. Darned liberals!
 
I wonder if that darned liberal college pocketed some of the money and did not give it all to Edwards. Darned liberals!

How many people on this thread even remember going to college?

I saw Jethro Tull play at UC Davis. The event (and any profit to Tull) came from ticket sales. From people who chose to see Tull. NOT from the taxpayer.
 
Nah, let's vote the for guy who literally made a ton of cash "studying poverty" by working for a Hedge fund. That's the guy who knows it all about poverty.

1) Who made a tun of money working for a hedge fund that studied poverty?

2) So what, at least he is making his money studying/trying to fix a problem. Its better than making no money by using daddy's influence buying oil companies.
 
Well Damo, that's why you shouldn't always trust opinion blogs.

I went to the campus newspaper, and they reported that tickets for the event were on SALE to the general public.
What about the question means that I trusted the blog? You are being deliberately disingenuous. Specifically, if I were writing about the amount of cash sent to the states to pay for healthcare, and divided that amount by the recipients, it certainly wouldn't imply that they paid for the care. Nor does it here.

I have also gone to the UC Davis Aggie, I ran a search on Edwards speech, and found many a story on it, I have read four so far and have seen nothing about tickets. I then added tickets to the search, still nothing.

Can you link to the prices of the tickets or should I just trust your assertion that tickets were sold without any evidence? Can you also provide the amount collected for the tickets? It may be that the university turned a profit....

Nah, I found it...

http://media.www.californiaaggie.co...o.Speak.At.Mondavi.Center-1308441-page2.shtml

At the end. Student prices begin at 17.50... Excellent.
 
1) Who made a tun of money working for a hedge fund that studied poverty?

2) So what, at least he is making his money studying/trying to fix a problem. Its better than making no money by using daddy's influence buying oil companies.
1. Edwards did.

2. It isn't the matter that he made money, and attempting to relegate it to that is disingenuous. It is the matter that he thinks I am stupid enough to believe that it was part of his study of poverty. This shows a disconnect from the intelligence of the average person.
 
How many people on this thread even remember going to college?

I saw Jethro Tull play at UC Davis. The event (and any profit to Tull) came from ticket sales. From people who chose to see Tull. NOT from the taxpayer.
Umm, I can't remember going to college...Wait I am not senile, I never went to college...
 
What about the question means that I trusted the blog? You are being deliberately disingenuous. Specifically, if I were writing about the amount of cash sent to the states to pay for healthcare, and divided that amount by the recipients, it certainly wouldn't imply that they paid for the care. Nor does it here.

I have also gone to the UC Davis Aggie, I ran a search on Edwards speech, and found many a story on it, I have read four so far and have seen nothing about tickets. I then added tickets to the search, still nothing.

Can you link to the prices of the tickets or should I just trust your assertion that tickets were sold without any evidence? Can you also provide the amount collected for the tickets? It may be that the university turned a profit....

Nah, I found it...

http://media.www.californiaaggie.co...o.Speak.At.Mondavi.Center-1308441-page2.shtml

At the end. Student prices begin at 17.50... Excellent.


right. The absolute cheapest tickets were 17.50. Plus parking. Plus concessions. Over 1500 people attending.

I'd say that the entire 55k speaking fee was paid for by the general public who CHOSE to attend. NOT by taxpayers, as my friend Cawacko asserted.
 
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