John Edwards

[Damocles]

So, just because you are rich and make a lot of money, you cant know about or discuss how to fix poverty?

At least Edwards was not always rich. He made his money himself.

LOL. The same old story, the attempt to take what I said, "What I don't like is he thinks I am stupid enough to believe..." to "I am upset he made money".

I don't care about the cash, I do care that he believes I am retarded enough to believe such a lame excuse.

 

[Jarod]

1) There is NO evidence that the speaking engagement was part of his duties at teh Center on Poverty. http://www.law.unc.edu/centers/poverty/default.aspx

2) If you have a problem its with the University for paying the money, not Edwards for accepting it.

3) If you dont want to pay, dont buy a ticket. I would not be suprised to find that the University made a healthy profit from the event!

4) Look at the Center for Poverty and all the good they do. http://www.law.unc.edu/centers/poverty/default.aspx

 

[Cypress]

I'm really annoyed at the whole haircut thing. I don't know how hard it is to contact the actual campaigns, but I'm going to try and do that today. I will say that I am a freelance political writer, doing a story on the haircuts of all of the candidates, and then ask each of them how much they paid for their last haircut. I'm also going to ask them if they get manicures. I will say I'm working on a piece to be called "Can a Metrosexual Protect you from Terrorists?" I will let you know if I accomplish anything other than getting a wiretap placed on my phone.

LOL

 

[Jarod]

LOL. The same old story, the attempt to take what I said, "What I don't like is he thinks I am stupid enough to believe..." to "I am upset he made money".

I don't care about the cash, I do care that he believes I am retarded enough to believe such a lame excuse.

1) When did he offer any EXCUSES?

 

[Damocles]

1) When did he offer any EXCUSES?

When it was found that he had worked at the Hedge fund, he began his "um... It was part of my study of poverty" crap.

You are being disingenuous because he is part of your party and somebody you would like to support. I will not support somebody who believes that everybody is so stupid as to believe that. Just say, "yeah, I made some cash." Don't attempt to get me to believe you were studying poverty.

 

[Jarod]

When it was found that he had worked at the Hedge fund, he began his "um... It was part of my study of poverty" crap.

You are being disingenuous because he is part of your party and somebody you would like to support. I will not support somebody who believes that everybody is so stupid as to believe that. Just say, "yeah, I made some cash." Don't attempt to get me to believe you were studying poverty.

Do you have a cite or a quote from him where he said this?

Working at a Fund cant be a part of a study on poverty?
(I know plenty of people who worked at an insurance company as a part of there study of personal injury law)

 

[Damocles]

Do you have a cite or a quote from him where he said this?

Working at a Fund cant be a part of a study on poverty?
(I know plenty of people who worked at an insurance company as a part of there study of personal injury law)

How many of the extreme poor access the services of a Hedge fund as compared to those who access the services of Insurance companies?

And it was reported on the local news channel, but I am sure I can find a link...

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/14/190600.aspx

In an interview with AP the week before, he said that he worked at the Hedge fund to learn about them and their link to poverty....

Keep up with the times there, Jarod.

 

[Jarod]

How many of the extreme poor access the services of a Hedge fund as compared to those who access the services of Insurance companies?

And it was reported on the local news channel, but I am sure I can find a link...

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/14/190600.aspx

Maybe he is studying how a hedge fund can help poor people, maybe he is studying how the poor can get access to the benefits of a hedge fund. Maybe he is studying how a hedge fund can invest in poor people and help bring them out of poverty for a profit!

 

[Damocles]

Maybe he is studying how a hedge fund can help poor people, maybe he is studying how the poor can get access to the benefits of a hedge fund. Maybe he is studying how a hedge fund can invest in poor people and help bring them out of poverty for a profit!

Or maybe, as he later stated, his "work with poverty" shouldn't be overshadowed by his work at the Hedge Fund.

Even Edwards has backtracked on this one as my link shows. Now, are you going to keep giving excuses to this extremely unlikely scenario or are you going to believe Edwards who now says that his Hedge Fund work shouldn't overshadow actual work on the poverty issue?

 

[Jarod]

How many of the extreme poor access the services of a Hedge fund as compared to those who access the services of Insurance companies?

And it was reported on the local news channel, but I am sure I can find a link...

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/14/190600.aspx

In an interview with AP the week before, he said that he worked at the Hedge fund to learn about them and their link to poverty....

Keep up with the times there, Jarod.

Nowhere in this cite does Edwards claim he was working at a Hedge fund to "Study Poverty", as you claim he said.

 

[Damocles]

Nowhere in this cite does Edwards claim he was working at a Hedge fund to "Study Poverty", as you claim he said.

That was in the week before during an AP interview. Read the post. Don't be so disingenuous.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272918,00.html

Last week, in an interview with the AP, Edwards said he worked for a hedge fund between presidential campaigns to learn about financial markets and their relationship to poverty — and to make money too.

Your effort to bend over backwards for what the candidate himself now says wasn't really part of his study on poverty, is seriously making me reconsider your ability to remain impartial.

 

[Jarod]

That was in the week before during an AP interview. Read the post. Don't be so disingenuous.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272918,00.html



Your effort to bend over backwards for what the candidate himself now says wasn't really part of his study on poverty, is seriously making me reconsider your ability to remain impartial.

I do not see a problem with or what is disingenous with a presidental canidate working in a hedge fund because it was both an oppertunity to make money while learning about the markets....!

 

[Damocles]

I do not see a problem with or what is disingenous with a presidental canidate working in a hedge fund because it was both an oppertunity to make money while learning about the markets....!

I see it disignenuous to attribute it to a study on poverty, then backtrack yet still have one of his worshippers believing it was part of that study that even the candidate no longer claims it was.

He now says, "It shouldn't overshadow my work on poverty..."

You say, "It was, It really was!"

Seriously, dude. Take a breath. Even Edwards isn't trying to make this claim anymore. I found it worrying that he thought so little of americans that we would eat that up. I see he wasn't that far off the mark.

This is reminiscent of Dixie claiming WMD were in Iraq after even Bush had stated that there weren't.

 

[uscitizen]

I can't wait for WM and spin to pick on Edwards for working at a hedge fund

 

[Battleborne]

This is why...

Edwards has so little credibility with the 'working class'...he was I repeat was and still is a "Ambulance Chaser"..he made his fortune on others pain and suffering...he is the lowest of the low as far as Attorneys go...now if 'Ambulance Chasers' did not get their hands so deep in the awards of compensation...say a reasonable fee..then I would respect them...as it stands they are 'thiefs in the night'...and hurt all parties involved!

 

[cawacko]

Tickets sold for the event.....

Big difference there wacko

Where does it say anyone paid for tickets? The article says the fee comes to the equivalent of $31 per attende. It does not say they pay for the tickets. Universities don't bring these speakers in to charge their students to listen to them. I went to see several speakers in college never had to pay for one including Jack Welch. So yes, the taxpayers did pay for Edwards speech.

And before you get into a partisan rant uscitizen I could care less if John Edwards gets the Democrat nomination or not. I was reading an article on athletes and "street cred". It just made me wonder does Edwards lose any of his 'street cred' for taking on poverty as his main campaign theme with actions like this. Could be yes could be no. But before you run off crying it was a simple question. No alterior motive.

 

[uscitizen]

Umm follow the other links Wacko.

 

[cawacko]

I see it disignenuous to attribute it to a study on poverty, then backtrack yet still have one of his worshippers believing it was part of that study that even the candidate no longer claims it was.

He now says, "It shouldn't overshadow my work on poverty..."

You say, "It was, It really was!"

Seriously, dude. Take a breath. Even Edwards isn't trying to make this claim anymore. I found it worrying that he thought so little of americans that we would eat that up. I see he wasn't that far off the mark.

This is reminiscent of Dixie claiming WMD were in Iraq after even Bush had stated that there weren't.

I don't mean to get personal here or take this off topic but Damo you must take discussions with an Auburn fan with a grain of salt. Some (many) Auburn fans still believe they deserve the National Championship in 2004. Not always rational folks.

HaHa, just having a little fun. I actually like Auburn (and we did kick their butts in 2002 and 2003).

 

[Damocles]

I don't mean to get personal here or take this off topic but Damo you must take discussions with an Auburn fan with a grain of salt. Some (many) Auburn fans still believe they deserve the National Championship in 2004. Not always rational folks.

HaHa, just having a little fun. I actually like Auburn (and we did kick their butts in 2002 and 2003).

LOL. There is a reason they are called "fanatics"...

Jarod is usually very reasonable and one of the better posters, I was stunned mostly by the vehemence and energy he spent in protecting him from what will be a very tiny part of a long election cycle.

Seriously, if Hedge Fund work really gave huge insight into poverty why aren't we asking all those who run Hedge Funds how to solve the problem? I think it is because the vast majority would give answers that Edwards fans wouldn't much like. I think it was silly to attribute it to that and that he was rightly criticized for that particular defensive remark that he later retracted with a more sane one.

I just think that those who seem to think so little of the "regular joe" are worth avoiding. At least give me a reasonable facsimile of an excuse if you are going to attempt to "excuse" actions such as that. There is nothing wrong with making money, there is something wrong with insulting my intelligence and still expecting to gain my trust.

 

[Cancel7]

LOL. There is a reason they are called "fanatics"...

Jarod is usually very reasonable and one of the better posters, I was stunned mostly by the vehemence and energy he spent in protecting him from what will be a very tiny part of a long election cycle.

Seriously, if Hedge Fund work really gave huge insight into poverty why aren't we asking all those who run Hedge Funds how to solve the problem? I think it is because the vast majority would give answers that Edwards fans wouldn't much like. I think it was silly to attribute it to that and that he was rightly criticized for that particular defensive remark that he later retracted with a more sane one.

I just think that those who seem to think so little of the "regular joe" are worth avoiding. At least give me a reasonable facsimile of an excuse if you are going to attempt to "excuse" actions such as that. There is nothing wrong with making money, there is something wrong with insulting my intelligence and still expecting to gain my trust.

How do you rate me as a poster?

I think I have the Romney campaign on the run btw. You guys think I"m joking, but I suspect he might have a personal stylist on payroll. I am getting a big run around there. I have been having a lot of fun talking to these fools.