Judge declares PA voter ID law is invalid
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They use their VOTER CARD TO VOTE......but they don't need and ID....?
WTF does that mean....whats the difference....you object to the photo or what....
A voter card is an ID.....the state wants to issue new ones with a photo if possible....whats the beef ?
YOU keep harping that to verify a persons registration is cheating....how tf is that cheating ?
THIS IS CHEATING:
NAACP Executive Sentenced to 10 Years in Prison for Voting for Obama 10 Times in 2008
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.crafts.metalworking/B8Xe0hnJ-YI
Do you actually believe that lying on your registration is ok.....and how will the gov. know you're not lying unless they verify its truthfulness, fool.
zappasguitar
Well-known member
It might be funny if it weren't so damn sad...
These clowns keep shrieking about voter fraud but can't provide any examples of in-person voter fraud these ID cards are supposed to prevent.
All they've got are their derisive attempts at diversion.
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Typical...
There is NOTHING there...NOTHING at ANY of the links you posted.
Every single link says "page not found".
It's just more bullshit lies I guess.
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Dear hyper partisan assclown; no one on this forum has shown anything remotely coherent to prove that in person voter fraud is occurring.
It's just more panicked bleating from you gutless, angry Righties desperate to find a way to beat the Democrats in 2016.
It might be funny if it weren't so damn sad.
These clowns keep shrieking about voter ID supressing voters rights but can't provide any examples of how these ID cards would suppress the vote.
All they've got are their derisive attempts at diversion.
Dunce.
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Oh wow...you come up with that withering put down all by yourself?
I will NOT laugh...
I will NOT laugh...
I will NOT laugh...
I will NOT laugh...
Oh hell...
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HJA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA WHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Dear repugnant dunce; no one on this forum has shown anything remotely coherent to prove that voter ID laws suppress the vote.
It's just more panicked bleating from you gutless, angry Lefties desperate to find a way to beat the Republicans in 2016.
Yes shit-for-brains; you really are THAT repugnant and THAT stupid.
By the way, do you see any irony in a repugnant hyper partisan moron like you claiming others are hyper partisans?
Never mind, the answer is plain; you're too fucking stupid and retarded to comprehend anything beyond the brain dead DNC drivel you spam this forum with.
Carry on dumbass.
Looking the mirror again? I have the same reaction reading your inane drivel.
See, there is common ground here; we both see what an incredibly stupid rabid hyper partisan moron you are!
Yay you!
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Dear ass-chapped chucklehead; no one on these forums has shown anything remotely coherent to prove any in-person voter fraud has occurred in Pennsylvania.
Yet despite that FACT; braindead, inbred dimbulbs like you continue to spew your misinformation everywhere.
Yes dim-bulb; you ARE that ignorant.
BTW...do YOU see the delicious irony that you, just another pathetic hyper partisan asswipe, whine about others in EVER SINGLE RESPONSE you post to those you disagree with?
No, of course you don't.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
if you tie a bag over a rape victims head, do you argue they have no evidence of rape?.........
Dear repugnant dunce; no one on this forum has shown anything remotely coherent to prove that voter ID laws suppress the vote.
It's just more panicked bleating from you gutless, angry Lefties desperate to find a way to beat the Republicans in 2016.
Yes shit-for-brains; you really are THAT repugnant and THAT stupid.
By the way, do you see any irony in a repugnant hyper partisan moron like you claiming others are hyper partisans?
Never mind, the answer is plain; you're too fucking stupid and retarded to comprehend anything beyond the brain dead DNC drivel you spam this forum with.
Carry on dumbass.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Shocker: Republicans Account For Most Cases Of U.S. Voter Fraud
The irony of the big GOP push for voter ID laws seems to be that when it comes to actual voter fraud, Republicans are often the ones who are most responsible. Consider the following examples of voter fraud that have been committed over the past few years:
This past Tuesday, Adam Ward of Bassett County Virginia pleaded guilty to 36 counts of voter fraud and perjury in connection with an attempt to help Newt Gingrich reach the number of signatures required to appear on last year’s Virginia presidential primary ballot. Ward collected over 11,000 signatures on behalf of Gingrich, over 4,000 of which, according to investigators, could not be verified. According to RawStory, the Virginia campaign of Texas governor Rick Perry faced a similar dilemma, with almost half the 11,900 signatures collected on his behalf failing verification. No Perry supporters are currently facing criminal charges.
- The Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) has recently closed two cases involving Strategic Allied Consulting, a Republican hired vendor. Although investigators found at least 11 voter registration forms that were of questionable authenticity, no charges were filed due to lack of evidence. Strategic Allied Consulting is the subject of three ongoing cases in Florida. A FDLE spokesperson said that no details could be provided regarding those cases.
- Last November two Republican voters in separate states decided to prove how easy it would be to vote illegally. Both were arrested and charged with voter fraud.
- In February 2012 a jury found Indiana’s Republican secretary of state, Charlie White, guilty on six counts of voter fraud, theft, and perjury.
- Four staffers of Republican congressman Thaddeus McCotter (R-MI) were indicted last August, charged with submitting over 1,500 “forged and falsified” signatures in what the Michigan attorney general, also a Republican, called a “blatant” and “disgraceful” attempt to qualify the congressman for last year’s ballot.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/0...ns-account-for-most-cases-of-u-s-voter-fraud/
Ishmael Pequod
Banned
Give us the ACORN convictions.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
McCotter's staff didn't commit voter fraud.....they filed invalid petitions to put his name on the ballot......that wipes out a third of your list right there......
oops, there go two more....
lol....these two were trying to show the system was faulty and got caught because IDs were checked.....(that ought to help your argument, right?).......
nominating petitions again.....dang, girl......weren't ANY of your examples, examples?.....
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If invalid voter registration is your base for determining voter fraud then 90% of the employees of Acorn would be in jail...they did it for decades...
What proof do you to forth that MOST of those responsible are Republican ?....your far left liberal blog 'addintinginfo' ?...no shit, I would expect no less from them....
Odd that investigators found so many faulty registrations for these R's but the courts prohibited the Republicans from even doing an investigation of Dem. registrations....
kinda of double standard, don't you think...so here is a list for you...actual voter fraud in casting ballots....
12 charged with voter fraud in Georgia election
http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/24/12-charged-with-voter-fraud-in-georgia-election/
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Democratic officials arrested for voter fraud in Indiana
Names, signatures faked in Indiana to put Obama, Clinton on primary ballot
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2498961563001/democratic-officials-arrested-for-voter-fraud-in-indiana/
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Fort Worth woman arrested in voter fraud case
By Fort Worth Star-Telegram (TX) August 22, 2013
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2013/08/22/fort-worth-woman-arrested-in-voter-fraud-case/
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7 Democrats Arrested in New York for actual Voter Fraud via Absentee Ballots
Democrats arrested, charged and 4 plead guilty to actual voter fraud in New York via absentee ballots!
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NAACP Executive Sentenced to 10 Years in Prison for Voting for Obama 10 Times in 2008
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.crafts.metalworking/B8Xe0hnJ-YI
You're the boob that claims voter fraud doesn't even exist in Pa.....obviously it does... if its discovered in Va, Texas, Fla., Ind., Ga., N.Y., Ohio, etc.
you can bet your pretty little ass, its all over the country.....if you never look, you'll never root it out....
there needs to be a way to validate ALL voter registrations and especially a voter ID with proven qualifications....
The election system in the US is out of control and wide open to cheaters....we don't know who the hell is voting or registering....
Like the nonsense of registering at the DMV with getting a license to drive.....
People have no problem with getting to the DMV or signing up for welfare and food stamps or soc. sec. when they need to...they can sure as hell find a way to
properly sign up for voting......
Oh gosh, another dishonest Liberal attempt to impugn busted by the truth.
And she wonders why I call her a dishonest dunce.
I'll call your fraud and raise you:
DEMOCRATS Arrested and/or Convicted of Voter Fraud | Specfriggintacular’s Blog
8 Arrested for Absentee Voter Fraud in Madison County, Florida
7 Democrats Arrested in New York for actual Voter Fraud via Absentee Ballots
12 Democrats have been Charged in Georgia for Absentee Ballot Voter Fraud
NAACP Executive Sentence to 10 Years in Prison for Voting for Obama 10 Times in 2008
4 Wake County, North Carolina Democrats have Admitted to Voting for Obama TWICE Each in 2008
Daytona Beach City Democrat Commissioner and his Campaign Manager arrested for Absentee Ballot Voter Fraud
Illegal alien from the Philippines Arrested and Charged on 17 counts of Voter fraud in Lake County, Illinois
Indiana Voter Fraud – Please note that we have TWO Separate voter fraud issues in this state to address: 1. Absentee Ballot Voter Fraud; 2. Obama’s Signature Fraud
Indiana Democratic Party Head Resigns as Fraud Probe Heats Up over Obama
http://eastaustinvoice.wordpress.co...cted-of-voter-fraud-specfriggintaculars-blog/
DEMOCRATS Arrested and/or Convicted of Voter Fraud | Specfriggintacular’s Blog
8 Arrested for Absentee Voter Fraud in Madison County, Florida
7 Democrats Arrested in New York for actual Voter Fraud via Absentee Ballots
12 Democrats have been Charged in Georgia for Absentee Ballot Voter Fraud
NAACP Executive Sentence to 10 Years in Prison for Voting for Obama 10 Times in 2008
4 Wake County, North Carolina Democrats have Admitted to Voting for Obama TWICE Each in 2008
Daytona Beach City Democrat Commissioner and his Campaign Manager arrested for Absentee Ballot Voter Fraud
Illegal alien from the Philippines Arrested and Charged on 17 counts of Voter fraud in Lake County, Illinois
Indiana Voter Fraud – Please note that we have TWO Separate voter fraud issues in this state to address: 1. Absentee Ballot Voter Fraud; 2. Obama’s Signature Fraud
Indiana Democratic Party Head Resigns as Fraud Probe Heats Up over Obama
http://eastaustinvoice.wordpress.co...cted-of-voter-fraud-specfriggintaculars-blog/
Election Fraud in the 2008 Indiana Presidential Campaign: A Case Study in Corruption
2008 Indiana Democratic Primary
In the spring of 2008, the Democratic primary season was in full swing. Then-Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were relatively even in the number of delegates each had received.[3] Going into the May 6 primaries, Senator Obama had a slight lead over Senator Clinton.[4] According to a New York Times calculation, Senator Obama had 1,474 delegates to Senator Clinton’s 1,377—a difference of less than a hundred delegates.[5]
However, Senator Clinton had an edge in superdelegates,[6] a special category of additional Democratic Party delegates who are not elected through the normal primary and caucus process. Instead, these delegates are automatically designated as delegates by party rules and include elected officials and party committee members. As of May 2, Clinton had 260 pledged superdelegates, while Obama had only 241. Thus, Obama was ahead of Clinton by only 78 delegates.
On May 6, Indiana and North Carolina held their primaries. Clinton won Indiana by 50.6 percent to 49.4 percent, and Obama won North Carolina by 56.1 percent to 41.6 percent.[7] The two candidates were fighting over 187 delegates—72 in Indiana and 117 in North Carolina.[8]
Under Democrat Party rules for these two states, Clinton and Obama split the delegates according to the proportion of their vote totals. As a result, Clinton walked away with 37 delegates from Indiana and 48 from North Carolina.[9] Obama fared better, winning 34 delegates in Indiana and 67 in North Carolina.[10] Obama’s thin victory was a disappointment for the Clinton campaign, which had hoped to use a big victory in those two states to mount a successful comeback.[11] At the conclusion of the Indiana and North Carolina primaries, Obama had captured a total of 1,575 regular delegates to Clinton’s 1,422, increasing his lead to 153 in regular delegates.[12]
If Barack Obama had been disqualified from the Indiana ballot, however, Clinton would have won all 72 of the delegates in Indiana instead of just 34. She also would have had a new total of 1,497 regular delegates, compared to Obama’s new total of 1,541—a difference of only 44 delegates[13]—and with the addition of the superdelegates, her deficit would have been reduced to a mere 25 delegates.
With six primaries left totaling 217 delegates, Obama’s lead would have been in dire jeopardy.[14] Instead, on May 10, Obama took the lead in superdelegates with 275 to Clinton’s 271,[15] and he never relinquished it.[16] Obama won the Democratic nomination for President soon thereafter and went on to win the presidency.
The above narrative is typical of American politics: two candidates vying for the nomination (and campaign funds) in a very close race. Yet the story did not end with President Obama’s election. Rather, revelations of election fraud and abuse by election and local political party officials continue to cast a pall over the nomination process in Indiana.
http://www.heritage.org/research/re...sidential-campaign-a-case-study-in-corruption
2008 Indiana Democratic Primary
In the spring of 2008, the Democratic primary season was in full swing. Then-Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were relatively even in the number of delegates each had received.[3] Going into the May 6 primaries, Senator Obama had a slight lead over Senator Clinton.[4] According to a New York Times calculation, Senator Obama had 1,474 delegates to Senator Clinton’s 1,377—a difference of less than a hundred delegates.[5]
However, Senator Clinton had an edge in superdelegates,[6] a special category of additional Democratic Party delegates who are not elected through the normal primary and caucus process. Instead, these delegates are automatically designated as delegates by party rules and include elected officials and party committee members. As of May 2, Clinton had 260 pledged superdelegates, while Obama had only 241. Thus, Obama was ahead of Clinton by only 78 delegates.
On May 6, Indiana and North Carolina held their primaries. Clinton won Indiana by 50.6 percent to 49.4 percent, and Obama won North Carolina by 56.1 percent to 41.6 percent.[7] The two candidates were fighting over 187 delegates—72 in Indiana and 117 in North Carolina.[8]
Under Democrat Party rules for these two states, Clinton and Obama split the delegates according to the proportion of their vote totals. As a result, Clinton walked away with 37 delegates from Indiana and 48 from North Carolina.[9] Obama fared better, winning 34 delegates in Indiana and 67 in North Carolina.[10] Obama’s thin victory was a disappointment for the Clinton campaign, which had hoped to use a big victory in those two states to mount a successful comeback.[11] At the conclusion of the Indiana and North Carolina primaries, Obama had captured a total of 1,575 regular delegates to Clinton’s 1,422, increasing his lead to 153 in regular delegates.[12]
If Barack Obama had been disqualified from the Indiana ballot, however, Clinton would have won all 72 of the delegates in Indiana instead of just 34. She also would have had a new total of 1,497 regular delegates, compared to Obama’s new total of 1,541—a difference of only 44 delegates[13]—and with the addition of the superdelegates, her deficit would have been reduced to a mere 25 delegates.
With six primaries left totaling 217 delegates, Obama’s lead would have been in dire jeopardy.[14] Instead, on May 10, Obama took the lead in superdelegates with 275 to Clinton’s 271,[15] and he never relinquished it.[16] Obama won the Democratic nomination for President soon thereafter and went on to win the presidency.
The above narrative is typical of American politics: two candidates vying for the nomination (and campaign funds) in a very close race. Yet the story did not end with President Obama’s election. Rather, revelations of election fraud and abuse by election and local political party officials continue to cast a pall over the nomination process in Indiana.
http://www.heritage.org/research/re...sidential-campaign-a-case-study-in-corruption
Virginia Primary 2012
For those who would deny the possibility of such events triggering seismic shifts in campaign momentum, one need only look to the curious circumstances of the 2012 Virginia Republican presidential primary. Virginia, like Indiana and many other states, requires a certain number of signatures by registered voters in each congressional district with a total of 10,000 signatures statewide for a candidate to qualify for the ballot.[46] Four of the Republican presidential candidates had trouble reaching the 10,000 mark, including former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, a resident of Virginia.[47] Just before the deadline, the Gingrich campaign submitted 11,000 signatures.[48]
The Republican Party of Virginia (RPV) reviewed the ballot petitions and the voter signatures to ensure their validity. Unlike what occurred in St. Joseph County, the RPV review was thorough and accurate. It determined that up to 1,500 of the signatures were invalid forgeries, thereby disqualifying Gingrich from the ballot because he had fallen below the 10,000-signature threshold. [49] The Virginia Attorney General prosecuted the ballot petition signature gatherer responsible for the forged signatures, Adam Ward, who eventually pleaded guilty to 36 counts of voter fraud and perjury.[50]
As a result of the RPV’s review, Newt Gingrich was not allowed to run for the Republican nomination for President in his home state. The consequences of being kept off the ballot are seen in Gingrich’s performance before and after the scandal. Gingrich carried only two states during the primaries, South Carolina and Georgia, the state he had represented as a Congressman.[51] South Carolina’s primary election was well before Virginia’s, and the Georgia primary was the same day as Virginia’s.[52] Following his Georgia win, Gingrich did not win another primary, and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney ultimately won the Republican nomination for President.
Speaker Gingrich and his campaign staff spoke out against the Virginia primary system, angry that he had been excluded. Campaign director Michael Krull said, “Only a failed system excludes four out of the six major candidates seeking access to the ballot.”[53] Gingrich had a large base of support in Virginia and was leading Romney in polls before being kicked off the ballot.[54] While nothing is certain, had Gingrich been on the ballot in Virginia, and had he won the state, it is possible that his winning both Georgia and Virginia on the same day might have changed the momentum of what was a heated contest among a large number of candidates.
In a challenge to Virginia’s ballot qualification requirement, a federal lawsuit was filed, seeking a court order for Gingrich and the other Republican candidates to be placed on the ballot. Although the suit was unsuccessful, the fact that Speaker Gingrich was excluded from the ballot demonstrates how a secure electoral system addresses fraud.
http://www.heritage.org/research/re...sidential-campaign-a-case-study-in-corruption
For those who would deny the possibility of such events triggering seismic shifts in campaign momentum, one need only look to the curious circumstances of the 2012 Virginia Republican presidential primary. Virginia, like Indiana and many other states, requires a certain number of signatures by registered voters in each congressional district with a total of 10,000 signatures statewide for a candidate to qualify for the ballot.[46] Four of the Republican presidential candidates had trouble reaching the 10,000 mark, including former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, a resident of Virginia.[47] Just before the deadline, the Gingrich campaign submitted 11,000 signatures.[48]
The Republican Party of Virginia (RPV) reviewed the ballot petitions and the voter signatures to ensure their validity. Unlike what occurred in St. Joseph County, the RPV review was thorough and accurate. It determined that up to 1,500 of the signatures were invalid forgeries, thereby disqualifying Gingrich from the ballot because he had fallen below the 10,000-signature threshold. [49] The Virginia Attorney General prosecuted the ballot petition signature gatherer responsible for the forged signatures, Adam Ward, who eventually pleaded guilty to 36 counts of voter fraud and perjury.[50]
As a result of the RPV’s review, Newt Gingrich was not allowed to run for the Republican nomination for President in his home state. The consequences of being kept off the ballot are seen in Gingrich’s performance before and after the scandal. Gingrich carried only two states during the primaries, South Carolina and Georgia, the state he had represented as a Congressman.[51] South Carolina’s primary election was well before Virginia’s, and the Georgia primary was the same day as Virginia’s.[52] Following his Georgia win, Gingrich did not win another primary, and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney ultimately won the Republican nomination for President.
Speaker Gingrich and his campaign staff spoke out against the Virginia primary system, angry that he had been excluded. Campaign director Michael Krull said, “Only a failed system excludes four out of the six major candidates seeking access to the ballot.”[53] Gingrich had a large base of support in Virginia and was leading Romney in polls before being kicked off the ballot.[54] While nothing is certain, had Gingrich been on the ballot in Virginia, and had he won the state, it is possible that his winning both Georgia and Virginia on the same day might have changed the momentum of what was a heated contest among a large number of candidates.
In a challenge to Virginia’s ballot qualification requirement, a federal lawsuit was filed, seeking a court order for Gingrich and the other Republican candidates to be placed on the ballot. Although the suit was unsuccessful, the fact that Speaker Gingrich was excluded from the ballot demonstrates how a secure electoral system addresses fraud.
http://www.heritage.org/research/re...sidential-campaign-a-case-study-in-corruption