Kabbalah

AssHatZombie said:
But why is she visiting Israel, and why are "legitimate kabbalists" feeling the need to distance themselves from here? Her "form" of kabbalism is from judaism, THAT'S why she WAS IN ISRAEL and that's why they feel compelled to distance themselves. DUH.
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Kabbalism began there, it is however more inclusive then Judaism. There are Kabbalists of every religion.
 
Damocles said:
Kabbalism began there, it is however more inclusive then Judaism. There are Kabbalists of every religion.
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No. It actually didn't begin there. It is believed the jews picked it up during one of the babylonian captivities and worked it into their priestly books of oppression and insanity.

Regardless, Madonna's version must be the jewish one, or she wouldn't be over in israel acting all retarded about it.

Oh yeah, and it's more inclusive than judaism is that noahide underlings are welcome to prostrate themselves before the ascended masters.
 
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Yeah Value something that you never really had ?
It is called ideology.
The great American myth.
Political talking points, etc...

what about my freedom to buy cheap Chinese goods and hire illegal aliens ?
donate money to the Jews, Join the Shriners, etc...
 
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uscitizen said:
Yeah Value something that you never really had ?
It is called ideology.
The great American myth.
Political talking points, etc...

what about my freedom to buy cheap Chinese goods and hire illegal aliens ?
donate money to the Jews, Join the Shriners, etc...
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Freedom is real.

What about the traditional good faith effort of citizens hiring fellow citizens instead of destroying our borders and immigration laws to placate foreign powers and lower our standard of living?

Why do you place such a premium on selling out americans?
 
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AssHatZombie said:
Freedom is real.

What about the traditional good faith effort of citizens hiring fellow citizens instead of destroying our borders and immigration laws to placate foreign powers and lower our standard of living?

Why do you place such a premium on selling out americans?
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But that is not freedom, freedom is to hire whomever I want to.

freedom is selling out whomever one wants to.
borders restrict our freedoms.
 
uscitizen said:
But that is not freedom, freedom is to hire whomever I want to.

freedom is selling out whomever one wants to.
borders restrict our freedoms.
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It is not freedom to imprison another through either slave wages or direct slavery.

Harming another may be an exercise in personal freedom, but it does not promote or increase freedom in any way.
 
uscitizen said:
But that is not freedom, freedom is to hire whomever I want to.

freedom is selling out whomever one wants to.
borders restrict our freedoms.
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But in a society, all individuals look for alliances to enable their survival. You may get away abusing social trust, and ignoring historical alliances for a while. But then the world will shift against you and populations will mistrust the benevolency of your rule, then you'll be out on your ass.
 
Damocles said:
It is not freedom to imprison another through either slave wages or direct slavery.

Harming another may be an exercise in personal freedom, but it does not promote or increase freedom in any way.
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Yes what type and level of freedom ?
total personal freedom will impinge on others freedom.
 
Hence, you incentivize right action. Nobody has said that government is unnecessary, they simply disagree on the amount of force brought to bear by government.
 
uscitizen said:
and which groups that force is brought to bear on.
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Pretty much. Hence we have political parties, ideologies, differences of opinions, beautiful argument, and work to promote the society we feel will do the best job of giving us the freedoms we so richly deserve and should consistently be vigilant of.
 
Damocles said:
Pretty much. Hence we have political parties, ideologies, differences of opinions, beautiful argument, and work to promote the society we feel will do the best job of giving us the freedoms we so richly deserve and should consistently be vigilant of.
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and still keep losing freedoms.....
 
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