Kid Rock for Senate.....

SmarterthanYou said:
wrong. try to understand. wanting to keep what I earn is NOT greed. come on, say it with us.
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Yes it is.

When the amount you're contributing individually is so miniscule while cumulatively, it helps so many needy people, especially children who are not at fault, avoid malnutrition and homelessness, crying foul is greedy.

If you cannot stand the idea of the paltry few dollars a year of the modest amount of taxes you pay annually, going to do good for people in need, then that is the very definition of greed.

You are greedy. Right-wingers are greedy. The Republican Party is greedy. Conservatism as an ideology is based on greed.

Everything about the political right is based on and rooted in greed.

Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable, but the truth often does that to shitty people.

Either change or learn to live with your shortcomings.
 
Nomad said:
Yes it is.

When the amount you're contributing individually is so miniscule while cumulatively, it helps so many needy people, especially children who are not at fault, avoid malnutrition and homelessness, crying foul is greedy.

If you cannot stand the idea of the paltry few dollars a year of the modest amount of taxes you pay annually, going to do good for people in need, then that is the very definition of greed.

You are greedy. Right-wingers are greedy. The Republican Party is greedy. Conservatism as an ideology is based on greed.

Everything about the political right is based on and rooted in greed.

Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable, but the truth often does that to shitty people.

Either change or learn to live with your shortcomings.
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The very definition of greed is the parents of those kids demanding someone else be forced to do what it THEIR responsibility.

It isn't the kid's fault his/her parents are pieces of shit that won't provide for their own. However, it also doesn't make it my responsibility as a taxpayer to pick up for what they are supposed to do for THEIR kids. It's simple. If I didn't produce them, those kids aren't my responsibility nor can I be held accountable because those that should be doing their job aren't doing it.

The Liberal ideology is nothing more than support irresponsibility. Sorry if that hurts but promoting such things should hurt.
 
CFM said:
The very definition of greed is the parents of those kids demanding someone else be forced to do what it THEIR responsibility.

It isn't the kid's fault his/her parents are pieces of shit that won't provide for their own. However, it also doesn't make it my responsibility as a taxpayer to pick up for what they are supposed to do for THEIR kids. It's simple. If I didn't produce them, those kids aren't my responsibility nor can I be held accountable because those that should be doing their job aren't doing it.

The Liberal ideology is nothing more than support irresponsibility. Sorry if that hurts but promoting such things should hurt.
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So you don't want to house them, feed them, nor educate those kids but when they end up in jail you will be paying $60,000+ per year in New York..

You're gonna pay up front or on the back end, but you will pay.......
 
Bill said:
So you don't want to house them, feed them, nor educate those kids but when they end up in jail you will be paying $60,000+ per year in New York..

You're gonna pay up front or on the back end, but you will pay.......
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Sad and pitiful argument.

Feed them bread and water while in prison. Put them in tents. That's cheap and what they deserve for doing what they did to end up in prison.

Build a tall, metal fence around where they're located and electrify it with 100,000 volts. Cuts the cost of guards.

Interesting how your post mentions those that aren't the parents of those kids paying while you don't mention those actually responsible for their own kids. Typical Liberal mentality. Place the costs on those that have no responsibility paying it and ignore those that do.
 
CFM said:
Sad and pitiful argument.

Feed them bread and water while in prison. Put them in tents. That's cheap and what they deserve for doing what they did to end up in prison.

Build a tall, metal fence around where they're located and electrify it with 100,000 volts. Cuts the cost of guards.

Interesting how your post mentions those that aren't the parents of those kids paying while you don't mention those actually responsible for their own kids. Typical Liberal mentality. Place the costs on those that have no responsibility paying it and ignore those that do.
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Sure it is, & it is the reality & you know it...

We, as a society (that includes you until you leave) have obligations to our fellows, if we like it or not.. Although helping some kid may cost all of us, all of us do get a return........

Educating them etc is an investment. Something to think about.. Certainly more productive than more ways to make their lives miserable..
 
Bill said:
Sure it is, & it is the reality & you know it...

We, as a society (that includes you until you leave) have obligations to our fellows, if we like it or not.. Although helping some kid may cost all of us, all of us do get a return........

Educating them etc is an investment. Something to think about.. Certainly more productive than more ways to make their lives miserable..
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The reality is you support their parents being irresponsible. No mention of their job to provide for their own kids.

I don't have an obligation to someone else's kid because his/her parents are irresponsible.

If their own parents don't think they're a good investment, you can't convince me it's a good me. Think about it. If the ones that know them the best don't think they're a good investment, what do you have to prove they are?
 
CFM said:
The reality is you support their parents being irresponsible. No mention of their job to provide for their own kids.

I don't have an obligation to someone else's kid because his/her parents are irresponsible.

If their own parents don't think they're a good investment, you can't convince me it's a good me. Think about it. If the ones that know them the best don't think they're a good investment, what do you have to prove they are?
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No I don't, believe what you wish :dunno:

I mentioned the kids.. As you noted, it's the fucked up parents, not them.. If nothing is done for the kids they will be our problem, & sadly thats that!
 
Bill said:
No I don't, believe what you wish :dunno:

I mentioned the kids.. As you noted, it's the fucked up parents, not them.. If nothing is done for the kids they will be our problem, & sadly thats that!
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Things have been done for kids like this and they still become fucked up parents like the ones that had them.

You also mentioned that society should do for them. Aren't their parents part of society? When are they going to do what you say society should do? What you really mean is that those of us in society that aren't their kids should be forced to do for them because the ones that should, also part of society, aren't. Why don't you just say that you support irresponsibility and be done.
 
CFM said:
Things have been done for kids like this and they still become fucked up parents like the ones that had them.

You also mentioned that society should do for them. Aren't their parents part of society? When are they going to do what you say society should do? What you really mean is that those of us in society that aren't their kids should be forced to do for them because the ones that should, also part of society, aren't. Why don't you just say that you support irresponsibility and be done.
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Nothing or no person is going to be perfect..

You keep harping on the screwed up parents, you need to let that be & do what is in the best interest of the kids, even if the parents can't or wont..

They got a responsibility, I/we get that, you are 100% correct- but don't punish the kids because of it.......
 
Bill said:
Nothing or no person is going to be perfect..

You keep harping on the screwed up parents, you need to let that be & do what is in the best interest of the kids, even if the parents can't or wont..

They got a responsibility, I/we get that, you are 100% correct- but don't punish the kids because of it.......
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I agree. No one is perfect. However, that doesn't mean the rest of us should get the cost.

I am doing what's in the best interest of kids. MINE.

Don't punish the rest of us because those parents won't do their job. I have no responsibility to their kids. They do. If they won't do their job, it's not my problem. It's theirs. If you wish to take on their responsibility, do so just do it with YOUR money. MY money stays with MY family.
 
CFM said:
I agree. No one is perfect. However, that doesn't mean the rest of us should get the cost.

I am doing what's in the best interest of kids. MINE.

Don't punish the rest of us because those parents won't do their job. I have no responsibility to their kids. They do. If they won't do their job, it's not my problem. It's theirs. If you wish to take on their responsibility, do so just do it with YOUR money. MY money stays with MY family.
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I already told you how it becomes your problem..... Anyway I have said what I have to say, you have a fun night...........
 
Bill said:
I already told you how it becomes your problem..... Anyway I have said what I have to say, you have a fun night...........
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No, you've shown you support irresponsible parents being irresponsible by enabling them to do so.

I'll have a responsible night knowing that I provide for my children. That, alone, makes me superior to the irresponsible ones and those that enable the irresponsible ones to be that way.

I told you how you can solve the problem you think is someone else's concern. Why aren't you willing to do for those kids what you want the rest of us to be forced to do? You claim you care. Since they aren't my responsibility, I don't give a shit. If their parents don't, why should I.
 
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