Althea
Althea told me...........
Koby never went to college. If Floyd were white, he'd be alive.
LeBron James: New Voting Rights Group
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Darth Omar
Russian asset
You know this how, exactly lol?
BartenderElite
Verified User
Oh, bull. Since you can't, I will - he 100% does not say that about a white player.
And no - the country would not be torn apart if Floyd was white. Not sure if you're paying attention much on the protests, but must of the problem is unequal treatment under the law for minorities, which is no doubt an issue.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
He ‘assumes’ something based on Lebron’s race while ‘they’ assume something based on Floyd’s race. I fail to see the distinction. Making assumptions based on race is either racism or it isn’t.
I assume by ‘minorities’ you mean blacks or Hispanics. I don’t think Jews or Asians are very well represented in crime statistics.
Do blacks commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes given their percentage of the population?
Yes or no.
BartenderElite
Verified User
Oh, dear. You're going to try to make the case that they deserve unequal treatment under the law.
No, thanks - I'm not gonna play.
You insist on keeping your ears plugged up. Fortunately, most of America is listening - and big change is happening. We've seen that throughout history - many progressing, but a few who insist the status quo is fine.
You can ridicule it w/ "woke," but it's just people catching up w/ history, and working for equality.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Ok, blacks do commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes given their percentage of the population.
How does that factor into any discussion on alleged systemic racism regarding cop behavior or in our system of justice?
BartenderElite
Verified User
Not much.
I'm amazed that you & others are so positive there isn't systemic racism. Do you really think so many minorities can be making that up, or exaggerating about it?
I showed you once that blacks are pulled over more - a lot more. There are all kinds of stats like that. Blacks are profiled in a way that whites can't relate to. I know whites hate to hear that, but as I said the other day, most whites are at a breaking point after 2 weeks of protest. Imagine a lifetime of getting pulled over for doing nothing, or frisked for doing nothing, or being pushed down on the pavement for doing nothing. Imagine not being able to walk to the store at night without some fear of being stopped, frisked and possibly harassed.
Black parents speak about "the talk" they have to have with their children. This is universal in certain areas. They have to instill into their kids, hard, to behave perfectly when they're stopped or pulled over. Or they might die.
cawacko
Well-known member
As for the argument that George Floyd would be alive if he were white, Tony Timpa says hi. 32 year old unarmed white male who in 2016 the Dallas police killed by putting their knee on his back for 13 minutes while he suffocated to death. There’s video of it and you can hear the cops mocking him.
It never made national news of course. So therefore the perception is put out in public that police only kill unarmed black men which is far from the truth. (Police do Fvxk with, bully and harass black people at a far higher level.)
It never made national news of course. So therefore the perception is put out in public that police only kill unarmed black men which is far from the truth. (Police do Fvxk with, bully and harass black people at a far higher level.)
BartenderElite
Verified User
My own 2 cents is that Floyd was just a trigger - the straw that broke the camel's back. People bring race into what happened, but there is no indication that racism was involved. Sometimes, a bad cop is just a bad cop.
But I just think that video was all too familiar for the black community.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
That's exactly right.
The first I heard of the term "white privilege" was in the sociology class that we had to take in nursing school. I was brought up by our parents to be grateful for the blessing to live in this country, and to be cognizant of its failures for some of our neighbors as well. We were well off, but I lived in poverty for the first decade of my adult life by my own (poor!) choices. I saw first-hand the difference in how I was treated by store ppl, cops, etc. than our black neighbors... even though none of us were any richer than anyone else. I remember my friend at work being pulled over 4-5 times because the muffler had fallen off her old beater, while I got pulled over just once because mine was missing too. She got two tickets. I just got a friendly reminder that cars need mufflers. Guess which one of us was white?
So when that "white privilege" thing came up in sociology, it put a name to what life had taught me and what it teaches every person of color in this country. It's not a myth or a "woke" thing or some libtard guilt trip thing. It is real.
The people who most deny that privilege exists are terrified because in their hearts they know that it does -- and they are terrified that they will lose that privilege as America becomes less white.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
Yes they do, thanks for admitting that.
I would think that everyone -- no matter what their race -- would be interested in curbing the brutality of some police officers. Instead, we have idiots who blame the victims, and we have law makers who are trying to make videoing LEOs a crime.
cawacko
Well-known member
My understanding is this Minnesota cop had multiple prior complaints against him. He never should have been on the streets. So it's technically possible it was racially motivated but it's 100% true he was a bad cop.
No question this was the trigger because it was so egregious. It's true, black people have been harassed by cops for a long time. I saw a high school friend get pulled over for driving while black. That was an eye opener to me.
As far as the killing of unarmed black men by cops the WaPo put out (although they've changed the number a couple of times) that it was 10 killed last year. Think about it. Based on everything we've heard would you believe the number is that low? Not in any way suggesting it is acceptable but that certainly belies the narrative we are being told. Since this thread is about LeBron he tweeted out something to the extent of 'we are literally being hunted down and killed on the streets'. Look up the leading list of killers of (young) black men and you won't see the cops on it.
So reform of the police is necessary and black people do get profiled and mistreated at a highly disproportionate rate. But the story being told about police killing unarmed black people is not an accurate one.
- Narrowing the window for voting in advance. Especially on Sundays, where blacks would go after church.
-Fewer voting machines and fewer precincts in black districts.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
I’d say any parent who doesn’t have ‘the talk’ with their kids could be doing a better job of parenting. Particularly, if one of their kid’s behavior is apt to bring them in contact with law enforcement. The talk would start with ‘absolutely under NO CIRCUMSTANCES do you resist arrest’.
Just think, if no one ever resisted arrest. The cop problem would all but disappear. If you resist arrest, you give that bad cop a perfect opportunity to be a bad cop. If Floyd simply wouldn’t have resisted arrest this thread wouldn’t exist.
But since you eliminated crime statistics [the closest thing to science in this] I don’t want to play anymore.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
To be less diplomatic—it’s a lie.
So you think bad cops should be allowed to stay cops?
Darth Omar
Russian asset
No lol?
They should be removed. Chauvin was apparently a known quantity with a record but he was still on the force. But that implicates local Democrats and takes the focus off the preferred narrative.
My point is bad [even poorly trained] cops should get less opportunity to demonstrate how bad or poorly trained they are. Less resisting arrest would be helpful in that regard.
Almost invariably, these things start with the victim resisting arrest.
Agreed.