Let's All Chant the New Mantra: "Fatherland, Socialism or Death"

Cypress said:
We said it from first grade on, and in those early years I didn't even have a clue what the words meant. I don't recall anyone sitting it out or mocking it. We we're indoctrinated from age 6, that its just something you did - the pledge
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The same here.

I have never been to Colorado, so maybe it is different there.
 
Darla said:
The same here.

I have never been to Colorado, so maybe it is different there.
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Clearly.

When I got to HS, they passed a law that it had to be played sometime during the day. They did do that. But if you were in the classroom you didn't get up. Shoot, my first year of HS there wasn't even a requirement for there to be a flag in each classroom.
 
Damocles said:
Clearly.

When I got to HS, they passed a law that it had to be played sometime during the day. They did do that. But if you were in the classroom you didn't get up. Shoot, my first year of HS there wasn't even a requirement for there to be a flag in each classroom.
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I don't think we did it in highschool either. Grade school definetly. Middle school, I don't remember
 
Cypress said:
I don't think we did it in highschool either. Grade school definetly. Middle school, I don't remember
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Flags were in the classrooms in Junior High (not middle school back then in our areas), but the pledge was never said. In HS, there were almost no flags in classrooms my first year and nothing was said. The next year they passed that law, they had to play the pledge, but nobody ever said it or stood, we just listened then got to larnin'.
 
Another "look how bad Chavez is" thread .. coming from people who supported the mass-murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

Funny how that works, isn't it?

The very same "recite the pledge stand and salute the flag conservative ideology super-patriot freaks " who are responsible for the worst president in American history and the horror of Iraq .. are whining that Chavez is making his citizens salute his ideology. The very same dummies who supported disaster and weren't smart enough to figure it out.

Isn't that special?

Here's what Chavez, nor his ideology have done .. they haven't even slightly considered invading a much smaller nation and murdering their people for profit.

As the bombs dropped over Iraq, blowing apart innocent people, women, children, and babies .. you could just feel the pride and esprit de' corp swelling up in the chests of the super-patriots. It was conservative ideology and all they believe is American at its finest.

In the face of the absolute failure of everything the right has said and done over the last 7 years .. they want to criticize a widely popular leader and what he's doing in his country that has the support of his people. A widely popular leader who has demonstrated that he believes in the right of his citizens to own a share on their country and who has used his nations wealth and resources for the advancement of the people who elected him.

I love it when the right posts shit like this. Posters like Danold can be counted on to demonstrate how failed and unintelligent the minons of the right are on a daily basis.
 
blackascoal said:
Another "look how bad Chavez is" thread .. coming from people who supported the mass-murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

Funny how that works, isn't it?

The very same "recite the pledge stand and salute the flag conservative ideology super-patriot freaks " who are responsible for the worst president in American history and the horror of Iraq .. are whining that Chavez is making his citizens salute his ideology. The very same dummies who supported disaster and weren't smart enough to figure it out.

Isn't that special?

Here's what Chavez, nor his ideology have done .. they haven't even slightly considered invading a much smaller nation and murdering their people for profit.

As the bombs dropped over Iraq, blowing apart innocent people, women, children, and babies .. you could just feel the pride and esprit de' corp swelling up in the chests of the super-patriots. It was conservative ideology and all they believe is American at its finest.

In the face of the absolute failure of everything the right has said and done over the last 7 years .. they want to criticize a widely popular leader and what he's doing in his country that has the support of his people. A widely popular leader who has demonstrated that he believes in the right of his citizens to own a share on their country and who has used his nations wealth and resources for the advancement of the people who elected him.

I love it when the right posts shit like this. Posters like Danold can be counted on to demonstrate how failed and unintelligent the minons of the right are on a daily basis.
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Yes, he is very good for that. I think he should get a raise, even.
 
blackascoal said:
Another "look how bad Chavez is" thread .. coming from people who supported the mass-murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

Funny how that works, isn't it?

The very same "recite the pledge stand and salute the flag conservative ideology super-patriot freaks " who are responsible for the worst president in American history and the horror of Iraq .. are whining that Chavez is making his citizens salute his ideology. The very same dummies who supported disaster and weren't smart enough to figure it out.

Isn't that special?

Here's what Chavez, nor his ideology have done .. they haven't even slightly considered invading a much smaller nation and murdering their people for profit.

As the bombs dropped over Iraq, blowing apart innocent people, women, children, and babies .. you could just feel the pride and esprit de' corp swelling up in the chests of the super-patriots. It was conservative ideology and all they believe is American at its finest.

In the face of the absolute failure of everything the right has said and done over the last 7 years .. they want to criticize a widely popular leader and what he's doing in his country that has the support of his people. A widely popular leader who has demonstrated that he believes in the right of his citizens to own a share on their country and who has used his nations wealth and resources for the advancement of the people who elected him.

I love it when the right posts shit like this. Posters like Danold can be counted on to demonstrate how failed and unintelligent the minons of the right are on a daily basis.
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You can always tell when a lefty is trapped when he has to play the Iraq card. Obviously Iraq has nothing to do with this and for that matter nor do American kids get indoctrinated about Iraq one way or the other.
I never denied Chavez was popular, does that make this more legitimate to you? Was Bush's popularity when it was high make you feel justified in anything he did?

These kids are being indoctrinated, with learning hate towards individualism and having to be for Socialism or death.


You got any anything else in your hand red herring king? Maybe next time try an actual rebuttal.
 
Darla said:
Yes they do and Damo is FOS, like all righties he claims "no one is forced to say it".

Try being a kid and attempting to not say it.

I have.
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My teacher yelled at me and all the students in the classroom mocked.

Yeah, I know. I was just being a pussy. I need to be more of a man, then I'll have the ability to do not do "voluntary" things like that.
 
Damocles said:
Usually they play it over a sound system, you can choose to say it or not. Some of the students sit and simply mock people who say it. Depending on which school district you are from.
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Fuck you. The ones who are mocked are the ones who sit. I've never heard such bullshit in my life.
 
Watermark said:
Fuck you. The ones who are mocked are the ones who sit. I've never heard such bullshit in my life.
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I had an opposite experience. Thank you very much for assuming yours is the only experience that it is possible to have.

I said, "It depends on which school district you are in." I'll stick to that regardless of how much you cuss and emote on me.
 
Damocles said:
Portions of school teach you things such as that. I don't remember ever doing it once we were past 1st grade. I think it was so we would know the same things that we require from new citizens from other nations.

Nowadays there are places that require it be played daily. And personally I think they were made because of nationalism. But there is no requirement, and under current societal norms, nobody is mocked for not saying it.
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It's micheal Newdow. The ultra-right wingers go their panties in a twist because they believed their ability to force students to worship God in the pledge was being revoked, so in Mississippi "In God we trust" (omitting every other portion of the pledge, like the parts about liberty and other such trivial nonsense) was put on placards in ever single room in the state, and we were forced by threat of being beaten up and discriminated against by our teachers to worship God in the pledge on a daily basis.
 
Watermark said:
It's micheal Newdow. The ultra-right wingers go their panties in a twist because they believed their ability to force students to worship God in the pledge was being revoked, so in Mississippi "In God we trust" (omitting every other portion of the pledge, like the parts about liberty and other such trivial nonsense) was put on placards in ever single room in the state, and we were forced by threat of being beaten up and discriminated against by our teachers to worship God in the pledge on a daily basis.
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I said it and I can't remember anyone caring enough to bother making it an issue. Honestly it was just robotic repetition of something.

With Venezuela, you have the actual curriculum centered around their "chants". There's meat behind the words, you know?
If anything there is less religion in America than ever before, Venezuela is doing nothing but making more and more state control.
I actually expected you to come on this thread and berate BAC over his support for Chavez, I'm surprised.
 
And Dano I really don't care much what they do in hugolands schools. Seems like we should be more concerned with our own schools than Hugos...
 
Umm we had one yesterday about kids eating lunch on the floor. they come and go all the time WM.

LOL, I get harassed for giving a one liner or multiliner.
But then considering that the ones giving me the flack are.....
 
Damocles said:
Flags were in the classrooms in Junior High (not middle school back then in our areas), but the pledge was never said. In HS, there were almost no flags in classrooms my first year and nothing was said. The next year they passed that law, they had to play the pledge, but nobody ever said it or stood, we just listened then got to larnin'.
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While we did have flags in the classrooms when I was in Jr/Sr High School, we did not say the pledge, nor was it read or played over the loudspeaker. I do remember saying it when I was in elementary school for a few years, but even then it was not required that you stand.
 
uscitizen said:
Umm we had one yesterday about kids eating lunch on the floor. they come and go all the time WM.

LOL, I get harassed for giving a one liner or multiliner.
But then considering that the ones giving me the flack are.....
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I think his point was that people are allowed to decide what types of threads they wish to post. Others have the option to join in on the thread or ignore it.
 
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