Libertarians are extemely retarded. Here's why.

AssHatZombie said:
Libertarians trust fascism now.

They bleat on about how pure and right and just the wants and desires of corporations and banks are. How free market and perfect they all are.

Meanwhile they straight up ignore fascism, and the rise of internationalist fascism which puts the needs of large multinational corporations above any regular citizen anywhere.

Tyranny is tyranny, whether under a state seal or a corporate logo.

wake up.

And bitcoin is bullshit too.
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The avenue from Libertarianism and chaos/anarchy...is very broad...and there are no side streets. Go down the avenue of Libertarianism...and the only place you end up will be chaos and anarchy. True civilization and reasonable society cannot be had with Libertarianism.
 
Frank Apisa said:
The avenue from Libertarianism and chaos/anarchy...is very broad...and there are no side streets. Go down the avenue of Libertarianism...and the only place you end up will be chaos and anarchy. True civilization and reasonable society cannot be had with Libertarianism.
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it's half the story, like all forms of extremism.
 
Frank Apisa said:
The avenue from Libertarianism and chaos/anarchy...is very broad...and there are no side streets. Go down the avenue of Libertarianism...and the only place you end up will be chaos and anarchy. True civilization and reasonable society cannot be had with Libertarianism.
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Agree with that. Libertarians think no government is the best government.
 
BidenPresident said:
Agree with that. Libertarians think no government is the best government.
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so do communists apparently.

According to Marx's theory of historical materialism, societies pass through six stages — primitive communism, slave society, feudalism, capitalism, socialism and finally global, stateless communism.

It's still dumb even when communists do it.
 
AssHatZombie said:
so do communists apparently.

According to Marx's theory of historical materialism, societies pass through six stages — primitive communism, slave society, feudalism, capitalism, socialism and finally global, stateless communism.

It's still dumb even when communists do it.
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What communists?
 
BidenPresident said:
Where did Marx say that?
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1. Primitive communism
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Stone Ages- humans live primitively w/ no social classes, private property.
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2. Feudalism
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Society controlled by land-owning aristocracy, who exercise power over peasants.
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1. Primitive communism
Stone Ages- humans live primitively w/ no social classes, private property.

2. Feudalism
Society controlled by land-owning aristocracy, who exercise power over peasants.

3. Capitalism
Bourgeoisie rule over proletariat because they own the means of production, distribution and exchange whilst proletariat sell themselves as labour. Marx saw this as exploitation.

4. Socialism
workers' organisations form dictatorship of the proletariat to rule on their behalf. Food, goods, services distributed according to need

5. Communism
Govt withers away- no need. Classless and stateless society w/ co-operation replacing competition. 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'.

https://quizlet.com/136632548/karl-marxs-5-stages-of-communism-flash-cards/
 
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1. Primitive communism
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1. Primitive communism
Stone Ages- humans live primitively w/ no social classes, private property.

2. Feudalism
Society controlled by land-owning aristocracy, who exercise power over peasants.

3. Capitalism
Bourgeoisie rule over proletariat because they own the means of production, distribution and exchange whilst proletariat sell themselves as labour. Marx saw this as exploitation.

4. Socialism
workers' organisations form dictatorship of the proletariat to rule on their behalf. Food, goods, services distributed according to need

5. Communism
Govt withers away- no need. Classless and stateless society w/ co-operation replacing competition. 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'.

https://quizlet.com/136632548/karl-marxs-5-stages-of-communism-flash-cards/
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Just someone saying it. No reference to Marx.
 
BidenPresident said:
Just someone saying it. No reference to Marx.
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so are you saying marx never said government would disappear?

this 5 stages of marxism thing is a ubiquitious interpretation.

Is it just to keep libertarians on board?

communism is oligarchical collectivism, like libertarianism.

in other words back to stage 1. feudalism. revolution means 360 degrees.
 
BidenPresident said:
Just someone saying it. No reference to Marx.
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Withering away of the state" is a Marxist concept coined by Friedrich Engels referring to the idea that, with realization of socialism, the social institution of a state will eventually become obsolete and disappear as the society will be able to govern itself without the state and its coercive enforcement of the law.


Contents
1 Origin of the phrase
2 Interpretations
3 See also
4 References
5 Further reading
Origin of the phrase
The phrase stems from Friedrich Engels,[1] who wrote in part 3, chapter 2 of Anti-Dühring (1878):

The interference of the state power in social relations becomes superfluous in one sphere after another, and then ceases of itself. The government of persons is replaced by the administration of things and the direction of the processes of production. The state is not "abolished", it withers away. (German: Der Staat wird nicht „abgeschafft“, er stirbt ab., lit. 'The state is not "abolished", it atrophies.')[2][3]

A related quote from Engels comes from Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State (1884):

The society which organizes production anew on the basis of free and equal association of the producers will put the whole state machinery where it will then belong—into the museum of antiquities, next to the spinning wheel and the bronze ax.[4][5][6]

Interpretations
Although Engels first introduced the idea of the withering away of the state, he attributed the underlying concept to Karl Marx, and other Marxist theorists—including Vladimir Lenin—would later expand on it.[1][4] According to this concept of the withering away of the state, eventually a communist society will no longer require coercion to induce individuals to behave in a way that benefits the entire society.[1][2] Such a society would occur after a temporary period of the dictatorship of the proletariat.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withe... of the state,coercive enforcement of the law.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Withering away of the state" is a Marxist concept coined by Friedrich Engels referring to the idea that, with realization of socialism, the social institution of a state will eventually become obsolete and disappear as the society will be able to govern itself without the state and its coercive enforcement of the law.


Contents
1 Origin of the phrase
2 Interpretations
3 See also
4 References
5 Further reading
Origin of the phrase
The phrase stems from Friedrich Engels,[1] who wrote in part 3, chapter 2 of Anti-Dühring (1878):

The interference of the state power in social relations becomes superfluous in one sphere after another, and then ceases of itself. The government of persons is replaced by the administration of things and the direction of the processes of production. The state is not "abolished", it withers away. (German: Der Staat wird nicht „abgeschafft“, er stirbt ab., lit. 'The state is not "abolished", it atrophies.')[2][3]

A related quote from Engels comes from Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State (1884):

The society which organizes production anew on the basis of free and equal association of the producers will put the whole state machinery where it will then belong—into the museum of antiquities, next to the spinning wheel and the bronze ax.[4][5][6]

Interpretations
Although Engels first introduced the idea of the withering away of the state, he attributed the underlying concept to Karl Marx, and other Marxist theorists—including Vladimir Lenin—would later expand on it.[1][4] According to this concept of the withering away of the state, eventually a communist society will no longer require coercion to induce individuals to behave in a way that benefits the entire society.[1][2] Such a society would occur after a temporary period of the dictatorship of the proletariat.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withe... of the state,coercive enforcement of the law.
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Not interested in wiki. Clearly you know nothing about Marx and his writings.
 
This withering away of the state cannot happen with computers, 5g, censorship and injected nanobots, and a.i. controlled by fascists.

and a tyrant is a tyrant whether under state seal or corporate logo.

ideology is bullshit.
 
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