Libertarians...Quite Possibly the Stupidest People in the World....

Cypress said:
SF, you said anyone that responds to a poster who has you on IA, is a moron, a dipshit, and an idiot! What are you doing man? You're acting like a dipshit! :cof1:
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You are really having fun with this aren’t you? LOL. I am too, now. It is funny when you look at it this way.
 
Cypress said:
Right, so you admit that I never said, Friedman and his flunkies NEVER talked about civil liberties. So, you were wrong.

My point was, their whole ideology is rolling back the new deal, and Teddy Roosevelt's square deal. Take us back to the gilded age. That's what Grover Norquiest himself acknowledges.

You know as well as I do, that the libertarian movement is fundamentally about economics. It was a reaction to the New Deal. At its core.
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Most libertarians I know are the most technology savvy people on the board and the Ron Paul supporters show that as more than just anecdotal evidence. So do you really think they want to "take us back"?
Or are they advocating progressiveness in every aspect except with government growth?

If there is one group that has been solidly behind anti-technology, it would be the left, I'm still old enough to remember their rants in the 80's and 90's over machines replacing people's jobs and dehumanizing; and you see that sentiment creeping back with everything newish from SUV's to cell phones to antibiochemical to anti-Walmart. Leftist philosophy preaches stagnant change. You basically want the world to adapt to what you want and call that progress, rather than just let people adapt on their own and recognize that as being the only true progressiveness.
 
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Cypress said:
Right, so you admit that I never said, Friedman and his flunkies NEVER talked about civil liberties. So, you were wrong.

My point was, their whole ideology is rolling back the new deal, and Teddy Roosevelt's square deal. Take us back to the gilded age. That's what Grover Norquiest himself acknowledges.

You know as well as I do, that the libertarian movement is fundamentally about economics. It was a reaction to the New Deal. At its core.
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No, I was not wrong. My comment included a quote of yours to which I was responding. Anybody reading understood what I meant. You implied that he never seriously addressed these issues and only did so as a rhetorical device.

First off, the notion that there is some sort of real division between economic and social freedom is wrong. There is no division whatsoever. There's your rhetorical device.

Your implication that libs only concern themselves with, so called, economic freedom is wrong as well.

Friedman is libertarian-lite, dude. Norquist is just plain laughable as a representative of libertarianism. Yet, Friedman addressed more than just economics. Take a look at some real advocates of libertarianism and you will find plenty of talk about "social freedoms."
 
RStringfield said:
bac,provide the Friedman quotes in context. It's just a hit piece and many of these claims have already been shown to be untrue. He was not an "adviser to Pinochet." He had one meeting with him. He visited China more often.
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You're the libertarian .. can't you provide the quotes in context and how much "context" is needed for the bolded quotes.

No offense, but I was hoping that Warren, Damo, or someone who would engage in serious discussion would accept my offer ... not engage in "prove its".

You claim what I posted has been shown to be untrue .. When? Where?
 
blackascoal said:
You're the libertarian .. can't you provide the quotes in context and how much "context" is needed for the bolded quotes.

No offense, but I was hoping that Warren, Damo, or someone who would engage in serious discussion would accept my offer ... not engage in "prove its".

You claim what I posted has been shown to be untrue .. When? Where?
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Black I was going to but I actually have a lot of work to finish right now.

I'll get back on it soon. I'd like you take a look at my thread on Fascism as Political Attack and give me your opinion of my analysis.
 
blackascoal said:
You're the libertarian .. can't you provide the quotes in context and how much "context" is needed for the bolded quotes.

No offense, but I was hoping that Warren, Damo, or someone who would engage in serious discussion would accept my offer ... not engage in "prove its".

You claim what I posted has been shown to be untrue .. When? Where?
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The fact that he was an adviser has been shown to be untrue.

Okay bud, I will look up the quotes. I figured you would do nothing to support your argument, other than posting some obviously biased garbage.
 
Friedman was one of the heads of the gates commision that ended the draft in the US.

His ideas on inflation and the money supply have changed how central banks operate the world over and ended STAGFLATION.

His ideas were central to the changes in India and China which brought BILLIONS out of poverty.

He one a Nobel Prize in economics

This is what Liberals fight against. Pretty pathetic.
 
blackascoal said:
You're the libertarian .. can't you provide the quotes in context and how much "context" is needed for the bolded quotes.

No offense, but I was hoping that Warren, Damo, or someone who would engage in serious discussion would accept my offer ... not engage in "prove its".

You claim what I posted has been shown to be untrue .. When? Where?
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I'll have to look into it later. It's time for play time with the little ones. Today I'm going to read them the "House Constitution" we've been putting together...

j/k. We're going fishing. I even have a tent with a heater as it's kind of chilly.
 
Darla said:
A pm'd apology for calling me a slutty bimbo would end it. But I am not holding my breath.
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Would it work if I said, "I'm sorry he called you a slutty bimbo."? I'll do it if it will work. I'll even say, "I'm sorry she called you a drunken chimpanzee." to him...

Two of my favorites ignoring each other. It's unheard of!
 
RStringfield said:
The fact that he was an adviser has been shown to be untrue.

Okay bud, I will look up the quotes. I figured you would do nothing to support your argument, other than posting some obviously biased garbage.
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It's called civil debate .. I post something that supports my argument then you challenge that with support or clarity for your argument.

It's simple
 
LOL.............

Damocles said:
I'll have to look into it later. It's time for play time with the little ones. Today I'm going to read them the "House Constitution" we've been putting together...

j/k. We're going fishing. I even have a tent with a heater as it's kind of chilly.
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A tent with a heater...so momma finally agreed to go fishing...?...or do you really mean the wussie propane type of heater!
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