LINCOLN, the CIVIL WAR and SLAVERY

[Judy Johnstone]

Slavery played a role, but it wasn't the cause of the war. If America never had slavery, the war likely still would have happened.

If slavery didn't exist,there would never been a war.
This pretending slavery had nothing to do with it,is classic Confederate sympathizers bullshit

 

[Judy Johnstone]

That was an effort to gain public support which he did not have.
It was a meaningless thing as it freed zero slaves since it only pertained to a different country.

What different country?

 

[Celticguy]

What different country?

CSA.

 

[Judy Johnstone]

CSA.

Never existed,they tried but were defeated humiliated and only by grace,the treasonous rebels weren't hanged as they certainly should have been!

 

[BattleofHodow]

According to southerners in 1860-61, and not to 20th Century apologists, what was the reason for secession, again?

The North was quite hypocritical, because Northerners also financed & benefited from slavery.

 

[Celticguy]

Never existed,they tried but were defeated humiliated and only by grace,the treasonous rebels weren't hanged as they certainly should have been!

It did exist but was conquored in bloody fashion.

 

[Judy Johnstone]

It did exist but was conquored in bloody fashion.

Sorry you have to win your racist revolution first!

 

[Judy Johnstone]

I have yet to see one Confederate sympathizer who isn't a
Republican Trump supporter

 

[BattleofHodow]

I have yet to see one Confederate sympathizer who isn't a
Republican Trump supporter

What do you think of Jewish bankers Lehman brothers financing the Southern slave trade so heavily?

 

[Celticguy]

Sorry you have to win your racist revolution first!

Lincoln acknowledged it by entering into negotuations immediately. It was faithless but done.

 

[Minister of Truth]

The North was quite hypocritical, because Northerners also financed & benefited from slavery.

But did they ratify Articles of Secession over slavery?

 

[Minister of Truth]

Lincoln acknowledged it by entering into negotuations immediately. It was faithless but done.

There were negotiations taking place prior to the 1860 Election, and the south still seceded. It wasn't enough to pass an amendment protecting slavery where it already existed. They wanted to be able to extend slavery into the territories. The Republican Party Platform called for abolishing slavery in the territories (call it the 19th Century Containment Plan), however, and that is why the south seceded from America before Lincoln even took office.

 

[Celticguy]

There were negotiations taking place prior to the 1860 Election, and the south still seceded. It wasn't enough to pass an amendment protecting slavery where it already existed. They wanted to be able to extend slavery into the territories. The Republican Party Platform called for abolishing slavery in the territories (call it the 19th Century Containment Plan), however, and that is why the south seceded from America before Lincoln even took office.

They wanted new states to decide for themselves.
As a state's right.

 

[Minister of Truth]

They wanted new states to decide for themselves.
As a state's right.

Not true. They didn't want new states to be able to decide at all. That's why they engaged in typical Democratic Party tactics in Kansas, to stuff the ballot boxes, and when that failed, to try to get the federal government to recognize the government in Lecompton (which Buchanan tried to back).

 

[Mason Melchizedek]

What do you think of Jewish bankers Lehman brothers financing the Southern slave trade so heavily?

I don't think they post at JPP or are Trump supporters

 

[Mason Melchizedek]

Lincoln acknowledged it by entering into negotuations immediately. It was faithless but done.

You'll say anything to try to sell your bs

 

[Celticguy]

You'll say anything to try to sell your bs

In otherwords, you cant refute and you find your position undefendable. Dont feel badly, lots of people were subject to the Lincoln mythology. But the truth is there for those with eyes to see.

 

[Mason Melchizedek]

In otherwords, you cant refute and you find your position undefendable. Dont feel badly, lots of people were subject to the Lincoln mythology. But the truth is there for those with eyes to see.

You're just another anti-American pro-treason
Confederate sympathizer

 

[Celticguy]

You're just another anti-American pro-treason
Confederate sympathizer

And since you cant refute, you collapse into silly aspersions.
I accept your surrender.

 

[Minister of Truth]

And since you cant refute, you collapse into silly aspersions.
I accept your surrender.

You can't support a pro-CSA stance without being anti-American. It's the same as being pro-Soviet or pro-Third Reich. One does not need to address a specific pro-CSA argument to truthfully point out that the perspective is anti-American.