Locally caught fish are full of dangerous chemicals called PFAS, study finds

NY as well. They were burning old firefighting equipment and other PFA waste.

They have developed a fairly easy way to break down PFA with heat recently.

With all contaminants, stocked fish are safer than native fish as the exposure time of the former is a fraction of that of the latter.

ThatOwlWoman said:
It's a serious problem even up here in the "wilderness." A lot of the homes near the airport, which used to be an Air Force base, have contaminated wells. They also use PFAS as a fire-fighting foam. That's how it came to contaminate the soil and water in that area, from routine crash drills where the foam was dispersed. Lake Superior fish is generally considered safe, but many inland lakes' fish are not.

We have truly shit in our nest.
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PostmodernProphet said:
I believe there was also a connection with insulation in electric transformers......the type you see every mile or so on all the electric poles around the country......

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Great. They appear to be ubiquitous and are even in things like shampoos, water-resistant fabrics, food packaging.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7784712/
 
leaningright said:
Lol…bullheads. Ok. Whatever you say.
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If it makes you feel like a man to call them catfish, have at it. I don't eat bottom feeders for obvious reasons.

But I was offering a play on words for the moron who doesn't understand anything about pollutants in our environment, and fishing.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
They look like channel cats to me.
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They're long dead and faded, but you're probably correct. Or just catfish. Our channel cats are very black with white underbelly. I've caught them over 10 lbs by accident while fishing for lakers.

Easiest fish in the world to catch. Their sense of smell is amazing.

But my bolded text makes it obvious that I was playing around with Dippity Do
 
Althea said:
If it makes you feel like a man to call them catfish, have at it. I don't eat bottom feeders for obvious reasons.

But I was offering a play on words for the moron who doesn't understand anything about pollutants in our environment, and fishing.
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Well, bullheads are bait unless a person is starving. Those are all channel cat (which some people won’t eat … but then I eat a lot of things most people won’t eat) except for two, which are blue cat.
 
Althea said:
They're long dead and faded, but you're probably correct. Or just catfish. Our channel cats are very black with white underbelly. I've caught them over 10 lbs by accident while fishing for lakers.

Easiest fish in the world to catch. Their sense of smell is amazing.

But my bolded text makes it obvious that I was playing around with Dippity Do
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Lol…it wasn’t obvious to me. And you are correct…they are very easy to catch at the right times.
 
I've often wondered at the fact that people prefer "wild caught" fish to farmed when there's likely MORE undesirable chemicals in the wild caught than even in something GMO created......

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Althea said:
If it makes you feel like a man to call them catfish, have at it. I don't eat bottom feeders for obvious reasons.
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But I was offering a play on words for the moron who doesn't understand anything about pollutants in our environment, and fishing.
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No, halibut? Oh, man, you’re missing out!
 
leaningright said:
Well, bullheads are bait unless a person is starving. Those are all channel cat (which some people won’t eat … but then I eat a lot of things most people won’t eat) except for two, which are blue cat.
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Channel cat are delicious. Skinning them is a bitch but once you get past that, it's all good. My late husband used to nail them to a tree and use pliers to skin them.

Bullheads are just nasty.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I've often wondered at the fact that people prefer "wild caught" fish to farmed when there's likely MORE undesirable chemicals in the wild caught than even in something GMO created......

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You need to research farmed fish. I’ll still take wild over farmed, especially salmon and I don’t eat tilapia at all.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Channel cat are delicious. Skinning them is a bitch but once you get past that, it's all good. My late husband used to nail them to a tree and use pliers to skin them.

Bullheads are just nasty.
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I’ve learned to fillet them with an electric fillet knife if they’re under 4 lbs or so. Quick and …. easy after a lot of practice and a few screw ups. But yes, we love channel cat. We mostly eat it the old fashioned way (fried) but so use it in Étouffée and Indian curry. One year I smoked several fillets and they were really good, but we ate them so often we kind of burned out on them.
 
signalmankenneth said:
CNN —
Fish caught in the fresh waters of the nation’s streams and rivers and the Great Lakes contain dangerously high levels of PFOS, short for perfluorooctane sulfonic acid, a known synthetic toxin phased out by the federal government, according to a study of data from the US Environmental Protection Agency.

The chemical PFOS is part of a family of manufactured additives known as perfluoroalkyl and polyfluoroalkyl substances, or PFAS, widely used since the 1950s to make consumer products nonstick and resistant to stains, water and grease damage.

Called “forever chemicals” because they fail to break down easily in the environment, PFAS has leached into the nation’s drinking water via public water systems and private wells. The chemicals then accumulate in the bodies of fish, shellfish, livestock, dairy and game animals that people eat, experts say.

“The levels of PFOS found in freshwater fish often exceeded an astounding 8,000 parts per trillion,” said study coauthor David Andrews, a senior scientist at Environmental Working Group, the nonprofit environmental health organization that analyzed the data. The report was published Wednesday in the journal Environmental Research.

In comparison, the EPA has allowed only 70 parts per trillion of PFOS in the nation’s drinking water. Due to growing health concerns, in 2022 the EPA recommended the allowable level of PFOS in drinking water be lowered from 70 to 0.02 parts per trillion.

“You’d have to drink an incredible amount of water — we estimate a month of contaminated water — to get the same exposure as you would from a single serving of freshwater fish,” Andrews said.

“Consuming even a single (locally caught freshwater) fish per year can measurably and significantly change the levels of PFOS in your blood,” Andrews said.

Chemicals in the PFAS family are linked to high cholesterol, cancer and various chronic diseases, as well as a limited antibody response to vaccines in both adults and children, according to a report by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine.

“This is an important paper,” said toxicologist Linda Birnbaum, former director of the National Institute for Environmental Health Sciences and the National Toxicology Program.

“To find this level of contamination in fish across the country, even in areas not close to industry where you might expect heavy contamination, is very concerning. These chemicals are everywhere,” she said.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/17/health/freshwater-fish-pfas-contamination-wellness/index.html

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I quit eating fresh water fish decades ago.
 
Phantasmal said:
You need to research farmed fish. I’ll still take wild over farmed, especially salmon and I don’t eat tilapia at all.
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I definitely avoid it. Sometimes it winds up in fish dishes that I eat when I order off a menu somewhere. Fish tacos from my favorite Mexican restaurant come to mind. I do eat those once on a while.
 
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