London Apartment Tower ENGULFED in flames for a day but NO COLLAPSE!!!

Milagro said:
Watch the video and stop being so illogical. The internal floors and beams had already collapsed. The final demise of WT7 was the now unsupported outer walls falling down. If you look at the video closely you will see the penthouse collapsing first followed by the hollowed out shell of WT7.


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Unbeknownst to people like you .. the penthouse collapsing in on itself first is a classic example of controlled demolition. That's how it works. The outer walls collapse inward, bringing the building down on itself.

ANY universal symmetrical collapse requires all the supports to be blown away at the exact same time.
 
Milagro said:
You are totally impervious to reason and rationality so I bid you good day. I've come to the conclusion that there isn't a conspiracy theory around that you won't sign up to, no doubt you believed the Apollo landings were all faked as well.

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:0) C'ya .. don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
 
Can you point out the science / physics that says steel-frame structures can fall straight down
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As I explained briefly:

The Towers had no Interior structural framing as say, The NY Empire States Building*.

The Towers had ONLY an Exterior lattice frame [think of a 1500 feet tall Chinese finger trap] +
The floors were flat concrete slabs that connected the the exterior perimeter wall in a way that allowed for the building to sway [this is unusual].
The Emergency stair exits were all sheetrock enclosed [rather than masonry block or concrete]

As soon as the "concrete slabs connection to the exterior perimeter wall" failed ---it was a perfect storm!

If this was anticipated by the 911 Plane pilots ---that explains their enthusiasm to get both towers.

So did someone arson the Grenfell tower because they knew this weakness in the building design?


BTW, If the Eiffel Tower fell ---would is tip over?

BTW when has a tall building [even a factory chimney] ever fell down side-ways?

*The B-25 Empire State Building crash was a 1945 aircraft accident in which a B-25 Mitchell bomber, piloted in thick fog over New York City, crashed into the Empire State Building.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Empire_State_Building_crash
 
blackascoal said:
Lots of people know how it happened .. I know how it happened. WE did 9/11.

But most Americans .. like you good brother, aren't going to see what is so clearly right in front of their face.

Giant buildings cannot fall straight down into their own footprints at free fall speed. Where is the mystery? That's 3rd grade science.

Did they ever get around to showing you the photos from Pentagon cameras and from the gas station across the street? Nope? Why not?

Wanna' see something funny?

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That's the impact site where the 'plane' hit the Pentagon .. fully loaded big ass plane.

The walls are free of the smoke damage, soot & heat of the “intense” fire that supposedly took place within the building – at the hottest point! The furniture is in good condition — in its original place. Heat rises, especially any of the reported “thousands of degrees.” But, the upper offices are nearly untouched by any damage, whatsoever. In fact, on the top floor you can see a plastic computer monitor sitting on a cabinet after the impact .. untouched.

How about the war games that were going on the same day which confused scrambling fighter jets? Did Bin Laden plan that too to cover his tracks?

Did you know that the height of this building was about the same height as a 767? Yet the roof stayed intact until 40 minutes after the impact
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Who or what is "we"? I love to be in on a good secret as much as the next guy but I was definitely not in on this.

Generally there would be a motive for this to occur and we would know who did it.
 
blackascoal said:
Reinforced concrete was used in the construction of all 3 WTC buildings.
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Bullshit, the structural integrity was provided by exposed steel beams which were sprayed with a fire retardant. This is hopeless, come back when you've boned up on building construction.

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bhaktajan said:
As I explained briefly:

The Towers had no Interior structural framing as say, The NY Empire States Building*.

The Towers had ONLY an Exterior lattice frame [think of a 1500 feet tall Chinese finger trap] +
The floors were flat concrete slabs that connected the the exterior perimeter wall in a way that allowed for the building to sway [this is unusual].
The Emergency stair exits were all sheetrock enclosed [rather than masonry block or concrete]

As soon as the "concrete slabs connection to the exterior perimeter wall" failed ---it was a perfect storm!

If this was anticipated by the 911 Plane pilots ---that explains their enthusiasm to get both towers.

So did someone arson the Grenfell tower because they knew this weakness in the building design?


BTW, If the Eiffel Tower fell ---would is tip over?

BTW when has a tall building [even a factory chimney] ever fell down side-ways?

*The B-25 Empire State Building crash was a 1945 aircraft accident in which a B-25 Mitchell bomber, piloted in thick fog over New York City, crashed into the Empire State Building.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Empire_State_Building_crash
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The tower block in London was constructed with reinforced concrete beams not exposed steel beams like the World Trade Centre.

WT1 and WTC2 used cantilevered floors to maximize the floor space available, the structural integrity was provided by the steel exoskeleton.

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the World Trade Centre's perimeter exoskeleton supported the interior concrete floors in a way similar to the way a Trampoline frame is tied to the flexing jumping area.
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When the connections to the perimeter exoskeleton melted, the floor fell straight down by dint of it's own weight.
 
well, i'm more convinced now than ever that most of you morons are complete and total lemmings that would willingly walk in to the gas chambers if the government told you it was absolutely necessary for national security. that you can steadfastly put your blind moronic faith in the word of an entity that was never supposed to be trusted, viewed as a necessary evil upon it's creation, gives credence to the claim that freedom really is dead.
 
OBL admitted to the attack. He was a secret American agent who was in on the conspiracy. He died for his cause, a true American patriot.
 
bhaktajan said:
As I explained briefly:

The Towers had no Interior structural framing as say, The NY Empire States Building*.
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HAHAHA. No one believes that. Most skyscrapers have a central steel core that actually supports the building. That was the great insight that made skyscrapers possible.
 
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bhaktajan said:
As I explained briefly:

The Towers had no Interior structural framing as say, The NY Empire States Building*.

The Towers had ONLY an Exterior lattice frame [think of a 1500 feet tall Chinese finger trap] +
The floors were flat concrete slabs that connected the the exterior perimeter wall in a way that allowed for the building to sway [this is unusual].
The Emergency stair exits were all sheetrock enclosed [rather than masonry block or concrete]

As soon as the "concrete slabs connection to the exterior perimeter wall" failed ---it was a perfect storm!

If this was anticipated by the 911 Plane pilots ---that explains their enthusiasm to get both towers.

So did someone arson the Grenfell tower because they knew this weakness in the building design?


BTW, If the Eiffel Tower fell ---would is tip over?

BTW when has a tall building [even a factory chimney] ever fell down side-ways?

*The B-25 Empire State Building crash was a 1945 aircraft accident in which a B-25 Mitchell bomber, piloted in thick fog over New York City, crashed into the Empire State Building.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Empire_State_Building_crash
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That's completely silly .. AND, look no further than WTC 7 .. a completely different design .. to recognize just how silly your premise is. Your explanation for the collapse of WTC 7 is what?

:0) It's silly, and like most here, you're looking for excuses to fit the mindfuck inside your head, not looking for truth.

The Towers were built to withstand multiple plane crashes, but I guess you didn't know that either.


AND, regardless of how the building was constructed, it still must adhere to the dictates of science. Falling mass is falling mass, and unless you have some new science that determines that falling mass will just crash right through much greater mass, you've got nothing.

Start from here .. if in fact falling mass ALWAYS seeks the path of least resistance, everything you've been told about 9/11 is a lie.
 
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