No, science is supposed to be absolute. The only way it gets confirmed is by trial and error by man. It's how you learn to grind such tooling.
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No, science is supposed to be absolute. The only way it gets confirmed is by trial and error by man. It's how you learn to grind such tooling.
Dutch Uncle
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Says who? Science is a method of learning.
When you measure different grains of bullets and powder to obtain a particular shot over a particular distance, you are using science.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/scientific-method/
Says who? Science is a method of learning.
When you measure different grains of bullets and powder to obtain a particular shot over a particular distance, you are using science.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/scientific-method/
I am using trial and error (experiment) to obtain the science of consistency in accuracy. Pretty much what your chart shows.
Dutch Uncle
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You are using the scientific method to obtain accurate results. Why do some people think science is evil? It's a method of learning.
QP!
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With all the Conspiracy Theories brewing, and all this talk about the aftermath of the derailment and it's clean-up, people have lost sight of the ROOT CAUSE of the man-made disaster.
What if the derailment happened on a railroad bridge crossing the Ohio River? Well, the bridge would be destroyed and so would the Ohio River.
People need to shut up with the Conspiracy Theories and focus on how to prevent these derailments from happening again in the future.
Facts are facts- Obama put regulations in place to prevent accidents exactly like this one, AND TRUMP ENDED THEM DELIBERATELY- JUST TO ENTERTAIN HIS OBAMA HATING CULT BASE- BECAUSE OBAMA PUT THEM IN PLACE!
Trump campaigned to UNDO everything that OBAMA accomplished in his 8 years!
Yes, I want to see TRUMP face that town now, and blame everything on the Democrats and Joe Biden- and brag to them about how only he can fix things!
Good post but one key addition needed.
Trump also did what he did as he wanted to give huge cash wins to Corporations and his rich donors.
Capital Cost expenditures for things like R&D and Safety, pay off in the long term but most CEO's have short term Stock Incentive pay structures. Meaning doing R&D that MIGHT lead to company growth years from now, or spending lots of money on safety upgrades, to avoid FUTURE more expensive cleanups is not a priority for them.
Take that same cash, and buy back stock and pay out dividends and that CEO gets the win/win. His stock sores and he gets the dividends NOW. If an accident happens, or they are losing out in the future due to a lack of innovation, that is something for the next CEO to deal with. I, today's CEO, cashed out already.
And as it adds a short term boost to the Stock Market Trump loves it for that reason too.
So if you get to take over as CEO today, your goal is to cut as much as those type expenditures as you can, as they come right off the bottom line and impact profits, and plow that money into Stock Buybacks and dividends and 'cross your fingers' the consequences do not happen on your watch.
In prior decades, when CEO's were not treated like celebrities, in terms of pay, they made the most money at retirement after running a single company for decades and providing consistent growth. That meant R&D and Safety were key for them for long term gain as they could not focus on short term gains then wiped out later.
Geeko Sportivo
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There was no excuse for the train derailments. Set all this talk about Regulations aside, or Blaming Biden for being the president- BASICALLY STFU!
For decades, Defect Detector technology has been in use that report back to Train Control Centers. During all of these derailments, the defect detectors were doing their job, by reporting the defect alarms back to the Control centers.
The BIG QUESTION is why didn't the Control Centers act on the Alarms. This alarm information is critical and is always escalated to the highest levels of management. Management, evaluates the risks involved, and makes the decisions about what to do about them.
Did management fail to act on the warnings? PROBABLY! You can almost bet that some manager advised the Control Team to, assume the risk, and let the trains continue on so that they could meet a delivery or pick-up schedule, rather than taking the alarms seriously, and resolving the issue.
Or it could have been the fact that the train was already running outside of regulations, by being too long to fit onto the sidetracks used to get trains off of the main tracks for emergency repair reasons, etc. REGULATIONS ARE PUT THERE FOR A REASON- THEY ARE NOT THERE JUST TO PISS OFF THE RIGHT-WINGERS.
Here is the regulation that is the most needed- ACCOUNTABILITY. THERE HAS TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY built into the regulations for when things go wrong.
If we can't resolve this matter through regulations, because there is no accountability for errors and misjudgements, failures to act, etc. then LET THE FUCKING LAWSUITS BEGIN AND NEVER END.
Learn all about how Defect Technology works...
For decades, Defect Detector technology has been in use that report back to Train Control Centers. During all of these derailments, the defect detectors were doing their job, by reporting the defect alarms back to the Control centers.
The BIG QUESTION is why didn't the Control Centers act on the Alarms. This alarm information is critical and is always escalated to the highest levels of management. Management, evaluates the risks involved, and makes the decisions about what to do about them.
Did management fail to act on the warnings? PROBABLY! You can almost bet that some manager advised the Control Team to, assume the risk, and let the trains continue on so that they could meet a delivery or pick-up schedule, rather than taking the alarms seriously, and resolving the issue.
Or it could have been the fact that the train was already running outside of regulations, by being too long to fit onto the sidetracks used to get trains off of the main tracks for emergency repair reasons, etc. REGULATIONS ARE PUT THERE FOR A REASON- THEY ARE NOT THERE JUST TO PISS OFF THE RIGHT-WINGERS.
Here is the regulation that is the most needed- ACCOUNTABILITY. THERE HAS TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY built into the regulations for when things go wrong.
If we can't resolve this matter through regulations, because there is no accountability for errors and misjudgements, failures to act, etc. then LET THE FUCKING LAWSUITS BEGIN AND NEVER END.
Learn all about how Defect Technology works...
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I am using trial and error to achieve those results. How else would I obtain results?
Don't ask me why some people think science is evil.
I wonder who developed the modern threading tool.
Dutch Uncle
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Duh. The scientific method.
What would you think of someone who lied about their results? You and I both know that it's not the brag, it's the results.
If a person claims their method of loading, choice of powder and bullets is superior, isn't it the scientific way to say, "Okay. Let's see it."?
Why shouldn't I ask you if some people think science is evil?
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IBDaMann
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Nope. Science is not the scientific method. The two are different things entirely.
Nope. You are gathering data.
You might be the stupidest poster online, Terry. Well, I suppose we all know what to expect from someone with only a brain stem. Nobody can claim to be surprised somehow.
IBDaMann
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Nope. Anecdotes are usually rumor or urban legend and are almost never first hand. Normally anecdotes are akin to tabloid material, i.e. missing enough details to prevent them from ever beng verified.
Personal experience is always first hand and usually has all the details.
Anecdotes are not science. Scientists and engineers use science, not anecdotes. Military, however, compile ALL anecdotes into doctrine, i.e. best practices, and apply it to everything, especially to duct tape and 550 cord.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
There really needs to be a lot more of Kent State action in America these days. Right now, around Georgia.
Dutch Uncle
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Agreed. The Capitol Police should have mowed down Trump's Traitors the moment they broke into the Capitol. Next time I hope they don't hold back....but you'll be safe at home, amirite, Matt? LOL
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
Agreed. The Capitol Police should have mowed down Trump's Traitors the moment they broke into the Capitol. Next time I hope they don't hold back....but you'll be safe at home, amirite, Matt? LOL
Newsflash, Dutchy: The "J6 Comittee" version of things is NOT the truth, fucktard.
You didn't get the memo?
I notice you seem to like violence. I don't like violence, that doesn't meant I don't know how or am afraid to do it. It just means I don't like it and won't unless necessary. If necessary, I absolutely will.
Do you not remember what you said you'd do if we got nuked? You didn't say "see what I could do for my neighbors", or "Make sure my neighbors are safe from looters", or "Make sure my neighbor's needs are met"...no...
You said: "I'd go hunting Trumpers". That's a sign of a sick mind, brah. Fuck the old lady nect door that needs things, you gotta hunt "Trumpers", huh?
You warped piece of white pine, you.
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Dutch Uncle
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I love conspiracy theories, Matt. So tell me what really happened.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
Reality will do that for you nicely, Dutchy, and then you'll realize (or maybe not) that you've been wrong for years.
Mayhaps you'll continue on into oblivion with your bullshit forever, like Thelma & Louise.
Dutch Uncle
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Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
You're headed for perdition, that ain't my call to make, but that's the path that I see that you're on.
Constantly bearing false witness against your neighbors, conniving (which God hates and has said he hates), I wouldn't want to be in your shoes, brah. Might get a little torchy.
Dutch Uncle
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I'm more optimistic than you. Probably because you're a bit dimwitted and also because I once had a glimpse.
Since you're not a Christian, Matt, why do you give a fuck?
Taichiliberal
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Over the years, our resident right wing wonks and MAGA mooks have claimed amateur "expertise" in the following fields: weaponry, international politics, auto mechanics, military tactics, history, sociology, religion, linguistics, etc. They do this when they either cannot produce valid documented source material from real experts to support their contentions. It gets to the point when they indirectly profess to know MORE than valid experts, much less people who may have invented/created the topic/product of discussion. After a point, trying to rationally and factually debate them is like banging your head against the wall ... it feels so good when you stop.