Madison Cawthorn Urges Fellow Conservatives to Leave College: 'I Am Proudly a Dropout

NiftyNiblick said:
Agreed. Education hopefully broadens the vistas of the mind as well as prepares us for worklife.
But we all need education of some sort regardless of our personal inclinations.

Most of us want to feel functional in some way, and capable of providing for ourselves and perhaps others.
People need access to the means of preparing for that. If they can acquire more than that, even better.
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Except that people act like the only learning in life, in this era of the internet, can occur in a classroom (while as a college student) and you have to get a certificate of some sort for it.
 
cawacko said:
That's a good story. This is totally random so feel free to ignore but it's on the brain. We're going to tomorrow to see one my best friends. He scored perfect on his LSAT and went to Harvard Law. He had Elizabeth Warren as a professor and was friends/classmates with Tom Cotton and the Castro twins from Texas among others. (I always give him sh*t for hanging out with a nobody like me.) So from an educational level he'd obviously be classified as pretty elite. But it's interesting to hear his perspective on it. He makes clear there were some real a*holes in his class so probably pretty obvious but being extremely smart doesn't necessarily translate to being a good person. And being so book smart doesn't necessarily translate into being good at all things.

So I almost feel a double standard personally where I would be appalled if my daughter doesn't go to a top ranked college, let alone not go to college, while saying I don't think college degrees are the end all be all of life. (especially in this time with the internet and so much information available that allows for life long learning) But maybe we'll see an emphasis return to trade schools and other avenues of skills for people for whom college isn't necessarily for them.
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The smart tact would to make them college courses

Round their eduction also


But make college affordable or free
 
cawacko said:
Except that people act like the only learning in life, in this era of the internet, can occur in a classroom (while as a college student) and you have to get a certificate of some sort for it.
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You need to am higher for these kids too
 
cawacko said:
Except that people act like the only learning in life, in this era of the internet, can occur in a classroom (while as a college student) and you have to get a certificate of some sort for it.
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Showing up is half of it. Getting your ass out of bed and into class is half the commitment.
The internet is an instrument of haff-ass-ism.
From my perspective, it's entertainment and possibly convenience, but certainly not education.
And the certificate, if legitimate, is proof that you did the work.
 
Can the Universities be fixed and saved, or not? THis is a current subject of conversation with the crowd I follow. The answer is not clear but all agree that they will not get on the road to reform anytime soon, they have no interest.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Showing up is half of it. Getting your ass out of bed and into class is half the commitment.
The internet is an instrument of haff-ass-ism.
From my perspective, it's entertainment and possibly convenience, but certainly not education.
And the certificate, if legitimate, is proof that you did the work.
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For example, there are college athletes that rarely go to class and have tutors basically do all their work for them and they are given (essentially worthless) diplomas. Yes they have a degree but didn’t learn sh*t. Then there are people who read and study a subject, and maybe that includes watching videos online, and actually learn something.

Learning is/should be a lifelong thing. Makes no sense to me the attempt to limit it to a college classroom.
 
cawacko said:
Learning is/should be a lifelong thing. Makes no sense to me the attempt to limit it to a college classroom.
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Makes no sense to ANYBODY to limit it to a college classroom. It is a lifelong process.

But if there's any opportunity to incorporate that college or career school classroom, it makes a real difference,
so we should be trying to give people that opportunity if we can.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Showing up is half of it. Getting your ass out of bed and into class is half the commitment.
The internet is an instrument of haff-ass-ism.
From my perspective, it's entertainment and possibly convenience, but certainly not education.
And the certificate, if legitimate, is proof that you did the work.
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This is how I feel about school … high school and college. You learn to get up and be where you’re supposed to be when you’re supposed to be there and be able to do what you’re supposed to do. Internet classes and the whole “working” from home gorp is ok for some unique jobs but it isn’t real life for most folks.

Internet classes, while convenient for testing knowledge are not as good preparation for the world of work as in person classes.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Agreed. Education hopefully broadens the vistas of the mind as well as prepares us for worklife.
But we all need education of some sort regardless of our personal inclinations.

Most of us want to feel functional in some way, and capable of providing for ourselves and perhaps others.
People need access to the means of preparing for that. If they can acquire more than that, even better.
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Amen, Brother Nifty, amen.
 
leaningright said:
This is how I feel about school … high school and college. You learn to get up and be where you’re supposed to be when you’re supposed to be there and be able to do what you’re supposed to do. Internet classes and the whole “working” from home gorp is ok for some unique jobs but it isn’t real life for most folks.

Internet classes, while convenient for testing knowledge are not as good preparation for the world of work as in person classes.
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To be clear, if one is in college I’d 100% prefer in person classes than online. My reference to the internet is that learning in life doesn’t have to stop because 1) you’ve got a degree or 2) you didn’t go to college - and the internet can play a role in that continual learning
 
guno said:
Cawthorn spent a single semester at Patrick Henry College in 2017 before dropping out with mostly D grades, according to a deposition obtained by The Washington Post. He was also reportedly rejected from the U.S. Naval Academy.
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Worth remembering that Patrick Henry "College" is a far right wing fake college. "Madison" was not even bright enough to get through that.

He has no business being in Congress. Deep down inside, even he knows the truth.
 
leaningright said:
This is how I feel about school … high school and college. You learn to get up and be where you’re supposed to be when you’re supposed to be there and be able to do what you’re supposed to do. Internet classes and the whole “working” from home gorp is ok for some unique jobs but it isn’t real life for most folks.

Internet classes, while convenient for testing knowledge are not as good preparation for the world of work as in person classes.
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You ignore the future, much work in the future will be remote its a great way to avoid traffic and cheaper office costs. Health care will be done by a robot visiting your home when the internet is more reliable and quantum computers are developed.
 
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