MAGA logic

Flash said:
Can you relate being softer on crime to a higher crime rates?
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how can you deny it........look at what is happening in California where cities have decided not to prosecute shoplifting........gangs are stripping shore shelves and businesses are leaving........
 
Flash said:
I did not contradict myself. I just gave a few examples to demonstrate blue states do not necessarily have a higher violent crime rate to refute your claim. I can also give some examples to show higher rates in blue states. The overall conclusion is that there is not a correlation between party control and violent crime rate.

Some of the factors that are correlated are population density in the Northeast but not the Pacific area. Some try to attribute everything to partisan explanations because is it simpler to do.
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Why are you trying to reason with an insane person?
 
AssHatZombie said:
he values his ideology over reality.

concepts over people.
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he needs to go read this thread......

PostmodernProphet said:
since no link was provided I looked it up.....



https://abcnews.go.com/US/voter-fraud-charge-dismissed-florida-arrest/story?id=91858299

therefore, even though 19 people in 19 different localities committed the fraud, since each of them only did it in one voting precinct only the prosecutor in charge of that locality can bring charges........note to Flash.......do you see what I meant about state v local prosecutors?.......

obviously not a DeSantis fail.........its a blue city soft on crime fail...
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AssHatZombie said:
he values his ideology over reality.

concepts over people.
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^^^
Sez the antisemitic constantly labeling as globalists and socialists those he opposes.

Why do you refuse to label what a globalist is? Are you afraid it will apply to every Republican leader, especially Trump, who has business interests outside the US?

Is it really a mystery why the globalist Trump refused to disclose his tax returns? Sure, they passed IRS scrutiny but if revealed, would they pass your scrutiny, Fredo?

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/06/trump-foreign-business-interests/
Trump continued to hold more than $130 million in foreign assets in a revocable trust
Check out Trump’s foreign interests in the countries below:

Argentina | Azerbaijan | Bermuda | Brazil | Canada | China | Dominican Republic | Georgia | India | Indonesia | Ireland | Israel | Mexico | Panama | Philippines | Qatar | Russia | Saudi Arabia | Scotland | South Korea | St. Martin | St. Vincent | Turkey | United Arab Emirates | Uruguay |
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https://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/trumps-10-foreign-deals-with-close-to-power/
resident Donald Trump’s business deals span the globe. Trump-branded skyscrapers, golf courses and hotels stretch from Dubai to Azerbaijan to the Philippines. Government ethics experts have strongly criticized Trump’s refusal to divest ownership of any of his businesses. But they point to his ongoing foreign deals with those connected to power as the most troubling.

Trump’s Byzantine business structures and his lack of disclosures – he has released neither his tax returns nor details of his foreign deals – make it difficult to get a full picture of the incoming president’s business relationships.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
^^^
Sez the antisemitic constantly labeling as globalists and socialists those he opposes.

Why do you refuse to label what a globalist is? Are you afraid it will apply to every Republican leader, especially Trump, who has business interests outside the US?

Is it really a mystery why the globalist Trump refused to disclose his tax returns? Sure, they passed IRS scrutiny but if revealed, would they pass your scrutiny, Fredo?

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/06/trump-foreign-business-interests/
Trump continued to hold more than $130 million in foreign assets in a revocable trust


https://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/trumps-10-foreign-deals-with-close-to-power/
resident Donald Trump’s business deals span the globe. Trump-branded skyscrapers, golf courses and hotels stretch from Dubai to Azerbaijan to the Philippines. Government ethics experts have strongly criticized Trump’s refusal to divest ownership of any of his businesses. But they point to his ongoing foreign deals with those connected to power as the most troubling.

Trump’s Byzantine business structures and his lack of disclosures – he has released neither his tax returns nor details of his foreign deals – make it difficult to get a full picture of the incoming president’s business relationships.
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but trumps is pro tariff DESPITE his personal dealings. he can actually do whats good for the country as a whole.

policy matters.
:truestory:

meanwhile, dems are pro insider trading.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
the LA prosecutor who doesn't prosecute was elected by the citizens of LA.......the same is true of all the rest of them, elected by the people who live in the city or county where they are supposed to do their job......mayors are the executive arm of local government, along with the city council.........they hire the police chiefs, handle the budgets that defund the police, set the policies, create the sanctuary cities......crime is NOT a state issue.......it is a local issue.......
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And how many prosecutors are in LA? Hundreds. One example tells us nothing. Compare the actual crime rate.

And, look at long-term trends:

Violent crime rate per 1,000:

2020: 6.5
2010: 4.8
2000: 5.5
1990: 9.4

Change in Murders 2020-2021

Los Angeles: 13.7%
New York: 3.6%
Houston: 16.3%

I believe in being tough on crime. I just don't believe increases are due to partisan politics.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
how can you deny it........look at what is happening in California where cities have decided not to prosecute shoplifting........gangs are stripping shore shelves and businesses are leaving........
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Following the pandemic there has been increased crime in almost every state and large city. What accounts for that increased crime rate where they did not elect a liberal prosecutor or quit prosecuting shoplifters?
 
Flash said:
Following the pandemic there has been increased crime in almost every state and large city. What accounts for that increased crime rate where they did not elect a liberal prosecutor or quit prosecuting shoplifters?
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give an example (cities only, since we agree its not state issue).....let's look....
 
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