MAGA logic

Yup. Now they have validation. Until trump throws them under the bus.

Trump already threw them under the bus within a week of his coup attempt. His failure to pardon any of them was the ultimate betrayal.

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The Proud Boy response:
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Doesn't seem to be. His ads tell everybody how tough he is on crime and attacks Democrats on crime. Still, murders continue to happen. Maybe governors have nothing to do with the crime rate.

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It appears the same for Presidents: Crime rose under Trump in 2020: https://www.axios.com/2021/09/27/us-2020-violent-crime-rate-rose-fbi-data
U.S. violent crime rate rose for first time in four years in 2020
By the numbers: There were an estimated 1,277,696 violent crimes and 6,452,038 property crimes in 2020.

  • The estimated rate of violent crime — such as murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault — was 387.8 offenses per 100,000 inhabitants, a 5.6% increase from 2019's rate.
  • The projected number of aggravated assaults increased by 12.1%, and murder and nonnegligent manslaughter offenses increased by 29.4%. That’s the highest single-year spike in killings in at least six decades.
  • The rate of property crimes like burglary, motor vehicle theft and arson was around 1,958.2 offenses per 100,000 inhabitants, an 8.1% decline from 2019.
 
BLM is an organization, and they clearly organized and led riots. MAGA is an idea, so it alone is not responsible for any riots. I can point to members of BLM or Antifa, I can't point to members of MAGA. Wearing a hat alone doesn't extend to membership.

Aside from that, BLM et al., are responsible for hundreds of violent riots. Ones you could associate with anything to do with MAGA could be counted on the fingers of one hand with some left over.

Another stupid ass MAGA parrot squawking the SOS....despite local law enforcement and DHS PROVING him wrong on every item.

But yet, the whole MAGA train connected to Jan. 6th can be excused and denied.

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Another stupid ass MAGA parrot squawking the SOS....despite local law enforcement and DHS PROVING him wrong on every item.

But yet, the whole MAGA train connected to Jan. 6th can be excused and denied.

:palm:

Fearmongers who support WSE terrorist ideology are as guilty as those who actually pull the trigger, IMO.
 
It appears the same for Presidents: Crime rose under Trump in 2020: https://www.axios.com/2021/09/27/us-2020-violent-crime-rate-rose-fbi-data
U.S. violent crime rate rose for first time in four years in 2020

Yeah, when we hear about things like trends in teen birth rates, crime, divorce, gas prices, inflation...we always want to blame some particular policy or politician when it is usually more complex.

People will blame crime on incarceration policies, bail, gun laws, etc. But if crime is increasing or decreasing, we usually find that same trend occurring in other states with different policies. Teen birth rates have been declining for years and people attribute that to sex education or lack thereof, abstinence... But, again, those same trends are occurring in every state regardless of policies.
 
Yeah, when we hear about things like trends in teen birth rates, crime, divorce, gas prices, inflation...we always want to blame some particular policy or politician when it is usually more complex.

People will blame crime on incarceration policies, bail, gun laws, etc. But if crime is increasing or decreasing, we usually find that same trend occurring in other states with different policies. Teen birth rates have been declining for years and people attribute that to sex education or lack thereof, abstinence... But, again, those same trends are occurring in every state regardless of policies.

It's always more complex. Only the fucking morons believe a President can wave a wand to fix the economy and bring world peace.
 
Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
Imagine if ashli babbit had been black

That hallway would be named Ashley Babbitt Way....with her statue on a bench right outside the door....

No stupid, if the insurrectionists had be predominantly black, Babbit would have never had the opportunity to get that close. Most likely she and her cohorts would have met a phalanx of SWAT cops and such outside the building. It would not have gone well for them. And POS like you would have been cheering for the cops. You know it, I know it, and the little trolls that sail with you know it.
 
Doesn't seem to be. His ads tell everybody how tough he is on crime and attacks Democrats on crime. Still, murders continue to happen. Maybe governors have nothing to do with the crime rate.






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lets explore......what state.....we can compare statistics and see how they stack up against some of the really sick blue places like Chicago and that city in California with the prosecutor who doesn't prosecute......
 
Yeah, when we hear about things like trends in teen birth rates, crime, divorce, gas prices, inflation...we always want to blame some particular policy or politician when it is usually more complex.

I know......complex like putting fucking idiots in charge of government........don't we have a thread around here somewhere........something like "these idiots are in office"?........
 
Teen birth rates have been declining for years and people attribute that to sex education or lack thereof, abstinence... But, again, those same trends are occurring in every state regardless of policies.
Unwanted pregnancies declined across the board when Obama was in office, due in large part to access to affordable contraception.

Abortions continued a years long drop, but significantly under Obama.

Sometimes common sense policy is indeed to blame for certain social issues.
 
lets explore......what state.....we can compare statistics and see how they stack up against some of the really sick blue places like Chicago and that city in California with the prosecutor who doesn't prosecute......

You have to compare states or cities. Murder should look at the state since it is under state law and prosecutors are enforcing state law.

I am in Texas.
 
Unwanted pregnancies declined across the board when Obama was in office, due in large part to access to affordable contraception.

Abortions continued a years long drop, but significantly under Obama.

Sometimes common sense policy is indeed to blame for certain social issues.

Most of those trends started before Obama--in the early 1990s and have continued after he left office. Anyone can afford a condom, so it is not lack of affordable birth control. Most unwanted pregnancies choose not to use contraception.
 
I know......complex like putting fucking idiots in charge of government........don't we have a thread around here somewhere........something like "these idiots are in office"?........

Government idiots are not usually responsible for societal trends. If government could fix our problems we would have done so years ago.
 
You have to compare states or cities. Murder should look at the state since it is under state law and prosecutors are enforcing state law.

I am in Texas.

Counties too. Agreed on the reasoning about differing state laws, prosecutors, LEOs, legislators, etc. There's also other factors driving violent crime such as poverty, unemployment, drugs, etc.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm

https://hotcore.info/babki/violent-crime-map.htm
 
Government idiots are not usually responsible for societal trends.

dude, do you really think that refusing to even charge people with shoplifting, that releasing people who have committed violent assault without bond, that letting people enter the country claiming asylum and releasing them telling them that sometime in the next five to ten years they will have a hearing to see if they are eligible will have no effect on societal trends?........government may not usually be responsible, but irresponsible government certainly is........
 
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