Marjorie Taylor Greene's 'good Christian' abortion meltdown

[Old Trapper]

Already did, dipstick, as noted below. Other than bragging and acting like a supercilious twit, what have you posted to back up your claim that Jesus was a “Christian”? Is there scripture in your Bible? Do you wear magic underwear so you can only see this scripture in your head? Or will you prove to be as pusillanimous as the Trumpers on this forum?

Strange how the low IQ mind works. The "debate" was not over the faith of Christ, it was over the use of the term Rabbi which has two different meanings. One is as the administrator of the Temple (like a Pastor, or Priest), and the other is as a teacher like a Deacon. But hey, when fools like you find they are the butt end of a joke, and are losing, it is quite common for you to act like trump, and change the story.

 

[Phantasmal]

Yes, and it is where you will find no mention of Jesus as the Messiah, as a Rabbi, and where also abortions are legal. But you go with it girl.

Those women were Old Testament figures. Jesus is New Testament, but there’s no abortion mentioned and abortions were still legal because the characters in the NT were Jews for Jesus and they believed life started with the “breath of life”

 

[Old Trapper]

Those women were Old Testament figures. Jesus is New Testament, but there’s no abortion mentioned and abortions were still legal because the characters in the NT were Jews for Jesus and they believed life started with the “breath of life”

Strange is it not how you defend women acting as whores as long as they are not called whores. Of course, men are just whores.

Next you are wrong as is usual. Jewish law does not share the belief that life begins at conception, nor does it teach that the babe is a person. Under Jewish law, the babe does not gain full protection of the law until birth. In the Talmud (Yevamot 69b) it is stated that prior to 40 days before gestation the babe is “mere water.” The Talmud also teaches that the babe is part of its mother throughout the pregnancy, and dependent on her for its life.

 

[Old Trapper]

Those women were Old Testament figures. Jesus is New Testament, but there’s no abortion mentioned and abortions were still legal because the characters in the NT were Jews for Jesus and they believed life started with the “breath of life”

Strange is it not how you defend women acting as whores as long as they are not called whores. Of course, men are just whores.

Next you are wrong as is usual. Jewish law does not share the belief that life begins at conception, nor does it teach that the babe is a person. Under Jewish law, the babe does not gain full protection of the law until birth. In the Talmud (Yevamot 69b) it is stated that prior to 40 days after conception the babe is “mere water.” The Talmud also teaches that the babe is part of its mother throughout the pregnancy, and dependent on her for its life.

"Rav Ḥisda said: She immerses and partakes of teruma only until forty days after her husband’s death, when there is still no reason for concern, as if she is not pregnant then she is not pregnant. And if she is pregnant, until forty days from conception the fetus is merely water. It is not yet considered a living being, and therefore it does not disqualify its mother from partaking of teruma."

https://www.sefaria.org/Yevamot.69b.11?lang=bi

 

[Nordberg]

The queen of Qanon is outed. She is really stupid, in spite of what Trump said about her being smart. She sure as hell is not. She will not be happy after 1-6 pulls her into the committee jury box. The word is she was in phone contact with some insurrectionists. She is complicit.

 

[Phantasmal]

Strange is it not how you defend women acting as whores as long as they are not called whores. Of course, men are just whores.

Next you are wrong as is usual. Jewish law does not share the belief that life begins at conception, nor does it teach that the babe is a person. Under Jewish law, the babe does not gain full protection of the law until birth. In the Talmud (Yevamot 69b) it is stated that prior to 40 days after conception the babe is “mere water.” The Talmud also teaches that the babe is part of its mother throughout the pregnancy, and dependent on her for its life.

"Rav Ḥisda said: She immerses and partakes of teruma only until forty days after her husband’s death, when there is still no reason for concern, as if she is not pregnant then she is not pregnant. And if she is pregnant, until forty days from conception the fetus is merely water. It is not yet considered a living being, and therefore it does not disqualify its mother from partaking of teruma."

https://www.sefaria.org/Yevamot.69b.11?lang=bi

Lol, you just want to argue with someone. The “breath of life” doesn’t mean conception, it is the first breath a child takes after they are born, so we agree, so I am not wrong.

[FONT=&quot]“Yahveh God formed the man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living nefesh” (the first breath). Life began for human being when God breathed breath into him (Genesis 2.7).
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I’m surprised that as a man who studied scripture you weren’t familiar with the phrase.

I also don’t understand why you are comparing MTG to Tamar, and Rahab?

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[Old Trapper]

Lol, you just want to argue with someone. The “breath of life” doesn’t mean conception, it is the first breath a child takes after they are born, so we agree, so I am not wrong.

[FONT="]“Yahveh God formed the man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the [B]breath of life [/B]and the man became a living nefesh” (the first breath). Life began for human being when God breathed breath into him (Genesis 2.7).
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I’m surprised that as a man who studied scripture you weren’t familiar with the phrase.

I also don’t understand why you are comparing MTG to Tamar, and Rahab?

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As to Greene, I wasn't comparing her to anything. Don't believe I have even mentioned her.

As to the "breath of life", do you know what "fetal breathing" is? It can be detected as early as 10 weeks after conception. That is the beginning if one wants to use that standard. I prefer conception, and the growth of cells following the plan in the babes DNA. And the "breath of life" is not limited to man, or Adam. In Genesis 6:17 we read "Behold, I, even I am bringing the flood of water upon the earth, to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life, from under heaven; everything that is on the earth shall perish."

But I am not surprised that those who have never studied scripture do not know what it says.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Lol, you just want to argue with someone. The “breath of life” doesn’t mean conception, it is the first breath a child takes after they are born, so we agree, so I am not wrong.

[FONT="]“Yahveh God formed the man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the [B]breath of life [/B]and the man became a living nefesh” (the first breath). Life began for human being when God breathed breath into him (Genesis 2.7).
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I’m surprised that as a man who studied scripture you weren’t familiar with the phrase.

I also don’t understand why you are comparing MTG to Tamar, and Rahab?

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He's trying to play Doctor with you.

He claims to have multiple degrees including a doctorate in Bible study. From what I've seen, he earned it by never missing Sunday school for a couple years.

 

[Phantasmal]

He's trying to play Doctor with you.

He claims to have multiple degrees including a doctorate in Bible study. From what I've seen, he earned it by never missing Sunday school for a couple years.

His argument is confusing. This is a thread about MTG, and he starts rambling about whores in the Old Testament. My reading of the Old Testament is based on Jewish scholars and he claims I don’t know what I’m talking about because their interpretations don’t agree with him. I basically agree with him and he comes back and tells me I do not know what I’m talking about.

He can argue with himself. I have no idea what point he’s trying to make, he’s all over the place.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

His argument is confusing. This is a thread about MTG, and he starts rambling about whores in the Old Testament. My reading of the Old Testament is based on Jewish scholars and he claims I don’t know what I’m talking about because their interpretations don’t agree with him. I basically agree with him and he comes back and tells me I do not know what I’m talking about.

He can argue with himself. I have no idea what point he’s trying to make, he’s all over the place.

More than "confusing". IMO, he's "off".

Smart people go nuts just like anyone else. Look at Tesla, Kaczynski and Bundy. Kaczynski was an award winning math professor. Bundy was highly intelligent. Intelligent enough to escape from authorities not once but twice not to mention over 30 murders.

We also all age with some of the nuttiest among us in the white, male 75 year old demographic. Like smart people, no group of human beings are free of mentally ill members and JPP seems to be a magnet for a specific demographic which I suspect included Old Trooper.

Kinda spooky for me too since I fit that demographic but with 10 years still to go. Is it preventable or am I condemned to be a 75 year old asshole?

 

[Lionfish]