Marxism is the never-ending boogeyman of the right

[IBDaMann]

All one has to be is a petty drug dealer to know that you have to buy low and sell high!

... and ?

Are you telling me that drug dealers are economic geniuses?

Did you, or did you not, ask me for an example of a sound economic principle?

Yes, Bill Clinton did put us back to 0 debt during his presidency!

Nope, and you are a gullible moron. I'm sorry I had to be the one to splash you with the cold water. I really do pity you.

 

[IBDaMann]

1-6 and Charlottesville showed that Repubs and Nazis are indistinguishable. White supremacists are rightys. There are no boogiemen, but real threats to the American experiment.

Too funny. You must be talking about those staged photos that leftist activists generated and distributed to their gullible mind-slaves. Never let it be said that you aren't gullible.

 

[Taichiliberal]

He didn't reduce the debt to zero, he just got the debt reduced by a small amount. Your chart shows the growth rate by year, not the total debt owed.

For your education:


https://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/

https://potus-geeks.livejournal.com/1310438.html

 

[IBDaMann]

For your education:

For your education, T. A. Gardner is correct ... and you are a liar.

 

[IBDaMann]

Let me preface this by stating I don't agree with, nor do I endorse any of the political positions presented at the Charlottesville protests / riots.

In a nutshell, Charlottesville went something like this:

The neo-Nazis and other radical Right types got a permit to hold a protest. They did and it was non-violent. Then the radical Leftist types like Antifa, et al., showed up and illegally held a counter protest, to include clashing with the radical Right types. Things got violent, and the fact that the radical Left didn't have permits and ran protests and riots in an illegal manner ended up with persons being killed.

The radical Left was the real problem at Charlottesville. Had they not come, the radical Right would have held their protest then gone home and it would have been forgotten. But because the radical Left did show up and start all sorts of shit and violence, Charlottesville spun out-of-control and people died.

It's more complicated than that. Leftist activist groups (violent attack dogs of the Democrat Party) wanted to ensure there was violence and weren't going to let it fall to chance. It was the KKK that got the permit to gather and they fully intended to remain peaceful, and they were, even after they were violently attacked.

The leftist groups had violent people pretend to be KKK, Neo-NAZIs, White Supremacists, etc ... and were there specifically to be violent on cue.

What you should notice is that none of the "pretenders" were ever DOXed. That was agreed to as a condition for them to do it. Only KKK who were registered to gather were arrested and charged and their information made public. All of the pretenders were simply released and we will never know who they were.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

For your education:


https://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/

https://potus-geeks.livejournal.com/1310438.html

The deficit / surplus is the amount of money coming into the government that year versus spending. That isn't the national debt.

Clinton (and the Republican Congress) balanced the budget and got a surplus. They didn't eliminate federal debt.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

... and ?


Did you, or did you not, ask me for an example of a sound economic principle?


Nope, and you are a gullible moron. I'm sorry I had to be the one to splash you with the cold water. I really do pity you.

"Don't ever hit your Mother in the head with a shovel- It will make a dull impression on her mind". [Geeko Sportivo]

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

He didn't reduce the debt to zero, he just got the debt reduced by a small amount. Your chart shows the growth rate by year, not the total debt owed.

Let's see your chart that backs up your claim!

Next!

 

[IBDaMann]

Let's see your chart that backs up your claim! Next!

Now I'm getting a better insight into your gullibility. You were apparently taught that if someone produces "support" off the internet that it must be true. You are apparently one of those overly gullible morons that I was taught to mock/deride/ridicule precisely because you think that if it's on the internet then it must be true. You also apparently allowed yourself to be misled into believing that all information is on the internet such that if someone cannot point to where the internet declares said information to be true that it must be false.

When you wonder why you aren't getting anywhere in life, just reflect on what I have told you here and you will have a jump start on solving your problems.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Now I'm getting a better insight into your gullibility. You were apparently taught that if someone produces "support" off the internet that it must be true. You are apparently one of those overly gullible morons that I was taught to mock/deride/ridicule precisely because you think that if it's on the internet then it must be true. You also apparently allowed yourself to be misled into believing that all information is on the internet such that if someone cannot point to where the internet declares said information to be true that it must be false.

When you wonder why you aren't getting anywhere in life, just reflect on what I have told you here and you will have a jump start on solving your problems.

U B da Idiot!

 

[Libhater]

Nazis were right wing fascist!

Nazis were people who were a part of National Socialism, or socialists, which means that Nazis were indeed fascists. Try looking up
Hitler's companionship with and ideological makeup with the world's number one fascist....Mussolini, and then try to tell us that
Nazis were right wing fascists. Either grow up and accept the truth, or just keep being the uninformed idiot that you tend to be.

 

[ExpressLane]

They all have one thing in common. The ultimate blame lies on the Marxists and the Communists. It's been like this in the U.S. since the early cold war with Joe Mccarthy.

It's always some variant. Muh "cultural marxists" or "postmodern neomarxists" CRT "Marxists" seem to be the popular ones nowadays.

I'm not sure about others but for me, the moment I hear someone start talking about how the Marxists are infiltrating the so and so part of the american system, I sort of just look at them as an idiot.

It's sort of a fear mongering tactic I see used.

Call someone a socialist because of perhaps a certain viewpoint they have(healthcare).

Tie them to communism by using Lenin's quote about how communism is the goal of socialism.

Talk about how communism is a failed ideology that killed 500 trillion people with labor camps.

Use #3 to undermine any position they have for that reason.


Why is the nationalist right hallucinating a ‘communist enemy’?

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...y-nationalist-right-trump-us-bolsonaro-brazil

Trained Marxists started BLM which stated goal is destruction of the nuclear family unit.


“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.”

 

[BidenPresident]

Nazis were people who were a part of National Socialism, or socialists, which means that Nazis were indeed fascists. Try looking up
Hitler's companionship with and ideological makeup with the world's number one fascist....Mussolini, and then try to tell us that
Nazis were right wing fascists. Either grow up and accept the truth, or just keep being the uninformed idiot that you tend to be.

Hitler was just like FDR. A socialist trying to give social security benefits.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Trained Marxist stated BLM which stated goal is destruction of the family unit.

Trained Marxists

The problem with describing BLM, Antifa, and like-minded movements as Marxist is that they hold little in common with, and much in opposition to, the ideas that we find in Marx’s writing.

For Marx, capitalism was a stage of human development that must be gone through before we can achieve something better. It was nothing like the robbing of the poor by the rich or the black and brown by the white. Peoples had always conquered and enslaved other peoples, but that was not the essence of historical change. Production took that role.

 

[ExpressLane]

Trained Marxists

The problem with describing BLM, Antifa, and like-minded movements as Marxist is that they hold little in common with, and much in opposition to, the ideas that we find in Marx’s writing.

For Marx, capitalism was a stage of human development that must be gone through before we can achieve something better. It was nothing like the robbing of the poor by the rich or the black and brown by the white. Peoples had always conquered and enslaved other peoples, but that was not the essence of historical change. Production took that role.

So the BLM originators were lying to us.

 

[IBDaMann]

U B da Idiot!

I greatly appreciate your immediate follow-ups confirming everything I write. Thanks again for your continued support.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

So the BLM originators were lying to us.

Key difference in Marxist socialism versus communism is the means of achieving them. In communism, a violent revolution in which the workers rise up against the middle and upper classes is seen as an inevitable part of achieving a pure communist state. Socialism is a less rigid, more flexible ideology. Its adherents seek change and reform, but often insist on making these changes through democratic processes within the existing social and political structure, not overthrowing that structure.

 

[IBDaMann]

The problem with describing BLM, Antifa, and like-minded movements as Marxist is that they hold little in common with, and much in opposition to, the ideas that we find in Marx’s writing.

Incorrect. BLM and ANTIFA are direct Marxist creations.

The Words of the Communist Manifesto, 1888 Official English Version

In depicting the most general phases of the development of the proletariat, we traced the more or less veiled civil war, raging within existing society, up to the point where that war breaks out into open revolution, and where the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie lays the foundation for the sway of the proletariat.

For Marx, capitalism was a stage of human development that must be gone through before we can achieve something better.

Incorrect. For Marx, "capitalism" was a slur he coined for "sound economic principles" which he so greatly despised. Marx was, himself, a lazy good-for-nothing who felt the world owed him a life of luxury for free while he sat around all day insulting those who provided him support. Marx was not competitive as a worker of any sort and he swore to himself that he would never lift a finger to add any value to society. He just hated humanity and was hoping to make some cash off his book(s).

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Now I'm getting a better insight into your gullibility. You were apparently taught that if someone produces "support" off the internet that it must be true. You are apparently one of those overly gullible morons that I was taught to mock/deride/ridicule precisely because you think that if it's on the internet then it must be true. You also apparently allowed yourself to be misled into believing that all information is on the internet such that if someone cannot point to where the internet declares said information to be true that it must be false.

When you wonder why you aren't getting anywhere in life, just reflect on what I have told you here and you will have a jump start on solving your problems.

Geekio just doesn't get the difference between getting a budget that has a surplus and the overall debt owed.

 

[IBDaMann]

Key difference in Marxist socialism versus communism is the means of achieving them. In communism, a violent revolution in which the workers rise up against the middle and upper classes is seen as an inevitable part of achieving a pure communist state. Socialism is a less rigid, more flexible ideology. Its adherents seek change and reform, but often insist on making these changes through democratic processes within the existing social and political structure, not overthrowing that structure.

Totally incorrect. Both socialism and communism begin the same way, i.e. with a popular uprising of the people leading to a socialist revolution. The shift to socialism is considered critical within Marxism because a central oligarchy is needed to plan and build the people's society. Marx then claimed that at a certain point, the central oligarchy would no longer be needed and the society would transition from socialism to communism. This is why his book was called the Communist Manifesto and not the Socialist Manifesto.

Socialists, however, do not believe this last part should ever happen. Socialists believe that once an oligarchy does all the work required to bring (their) order to society, it would be stupid to allow the masses to just ruin it all and to plunge the society back into chaos.

Communists, however, HATE concentrations of wealth and power. They want no government and no oligarchy. They want the Utopia spelled out in the Communist Manifesto but cannot abide any socialist oligarchy seizing the reins of control because they will never step down and will only continue to tighten the thumbscrews of oppression.

As a result, socialists and communists are irreconcilable enemies. You might have been taught that they are both on the same team and that capitalists are the common enemies but that is simply not true. Both socialists and communists see the other as their true enemy #1 while viewing capitalism as a common blight that they would like to eliminate, but if either were given the choice to eliminate the other by strengthening capitalism, they would jump at the chance in a heartbeat.

Hitler was a socialist. Guess who were the first of the "enemies" he sought to eliminate.