It may not be a deterrent but it is 100% effective against recidivism.
My personal opinion is that it is a deterrent to most…but that just one guys opinion. My first statement here is absolutely true though.
Medieval America puts six to death .
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My personal opinion is that it is a deterrent to most…but that just one guys opinion. My first statement here is absolutely true though.
Why so upset? Your buddies and heroes in Hamas and Hezbollah believe in capital punishment, making women second class citizens, and demonizing gays.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Let's talk about those who were put to death and later found innocent. But that doesn't matter to you guys.Convicted murderer released in the '90s agrees to life sentence on 2 new murder charges
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — A convicted murderer who was run out of several Texas cities when he was released early from prison in 1993 pleaded guilty Monday to two new murder charges in a deal that allows him to serve life in prison and avoid the death penalty, over the objections of the victims' family members.
Raul Meza Jr., 63, served about a decade in prison for killing an 8-year-old girl in 1982 before he was released under laws at the time that gave him credit for good behavior behind bars.
He was charged in 2023 with killing 65-year-old Gloria Lofton in 2019, and 80-year-old Jesse Fraga, his roommate, in 2023. Meza pleaded guilty to capital murder in Lofton's death and to murder in Fraga's death. Meza will not be eligible for parole.
Convicted murderer released in the '90s agrees to life sentence on 2 new murder charges
A convicted murderer who was run out of several Texas cities when he was released early from prison in 1993 pleaded guilty Monday to two new murder charges in a deal that allows him to serve life in prison and avoid the death penalty, over the objections of the victims' family members. Raul...www.yahoo.com
Guess what if this POS had been put to death for killing the 8 year old....these 2 people would still be alive today
FACT
8 People Who Were Executed and Later Found Innocent - AvvoStories
It’d be nice to think our judicial system is totally infallible, but unfortunately, that’s just not the case. Innocent people are convicted of crimes they
stories.avvo.com
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
Rehabilitation doesn't work for the most part. Inmates willing to participate and better themselves should have the opportunity, but repeat offenders and those going through the motions to get out of prison just to commit more crimes (aka "career criminals") should be offed at the earliest opportunity. That sets an example that society will not tolerate those that won't learn from their mistakes and choose a life of crime.
Why Prisons Fail to Rehabilitate People
About 600,000 people leave prison each year, but two-thirds of those folks are likely to return.
prisonjournalismproject.org
Do Prison Rehabilitation Programs Really Work? - The Crime Report
A new study concludes that despite criticism of their cost-effectiveness, skill training and counseling programs in state correctional facilities are a “critical tool” in curbing recidivism.
thecrimereport.org
Commentary: So far, prison inmate rehab isn't working
California's prisons are supposed to be rehabilitating inmates, not merely warehousing them, but a new report from the state auditor says it's not effectively reducing recidivism among those released from the system.
calmatters.org
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
No system is perfect. We tolerate some 35,000+ people dying a year in auto accidents because the value of motor vehicles to society far, far, exceeds that loss. That a few people are put to death mistakenly is a similar, acceptable, loss to society especially if the mass of persons put to death for serious and repeated crime deserve it and that makes society better and safer.Let's talk about those who were put to death and later found innocent. But that doesn't matter to you guys.
8 People Who Were Executed and Later Found Innocent - AvvoStories
It’d be nice to think our judicial system is totally infallible, but unfortunately, that’s just not the case. Innocent people are convicted of crimes they
christiefan915
Catalyst
By definition an *accident* isn't a deliberate decision to kill someone.
In addition to innocent people being put to death, we also have the Innocence Project working to clear hundreds of wrongfully-convicted people, who luckily escaped being executed.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
That's fine, but it's all no reason to eliminate the death penalty.
Yakuda
Verified User
Do you know why it's not a deterrent?
christiefan915
Catalyst
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I think the death penalty is morally wrong. People are going to come back with "murder is morally wrong also" and that's true, but we'd be talking apples and oranges. A murderer should be punished but I have a problem with an individual deciding that the murderer should be put to death., instead of given life w/o parole.
volsrock1
Verified User
With POS like this in charge of in the Judicial SystemLet's talk about those who were put to death and later found innocent. But that doesn't matter to you guys.
8 People Who Were Executed and Later Found Innocent - AvvoStories
It’d be nice to think our judicial system is totally infallible, but unfortunately, that’s just not the case. Innocent people are convicted of crimes they
Fact check: Did Kamala Harris block evidence that would have freed inmates?
moon
Satire for Sanity
Same as in the US then. Your point ?
volsrock1
Verified User
Let's talk about those who were put to death and later found innocent. But that doesn't matter to you guys.
8 People Who Were Executed and Later Found Innocent - AvvoStories
It’d be nice to think our judicial system is totally infallible, but unfortunately, that’s just not the case. Innocent people are convicted of crimes they
No doubt John Wayne Gacy was guilty
volsrock1
Verified User
Nope..not even close
In 2023, 24 were executed in the United States
In Iran 1,153 people were executed in 2023
Do I have to list SA and other ME countries?
christiefan915
Catalyst
It's lazy to blame Harris for everything you hate about the Justice system. You guys loved it when the dept. was investigating Hillary and Hunter.
christiefan915
Catalyst
No doubt, and so was Ted Bundy. Your point?
Pro-Life, HAHAHAHAHAFive executions in six days. These primitives are not fit to govern a small toilet, let alone a state.
Six days of horror: America’s thirst for executions returns with a vengeance
Five executions, five states: a glut of judicial killing not seen in 20 years took place last week – and there was nothing random about itwww.theguardian.com
christiefan915
Catalyst
We're talking about the USA, and we're *supposed* to be better than SA. Why don't you compare the US to the UK, Canada, Italy, Spain etc.?
These are the countries the US is lumped in with:
"There are 65 sovereign states with a very high human development according to the 2021/2022 Human Development Report.
Of these:
- 14 (22%) maintain the death penalty in both law and practice: Singapore, Japan, the United States, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman, the Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Belarus, Malaysia, and Thailand.
Capital punishment by country - Wikipedia
volsrock1
Verified User
Is Dylan Roof a human?
christiefan915
Catalyst
I already said over and over I'm against the death penalty, so that also applies to Roof. Why single him out?