volsrock1
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NoIs Dylan Roof a human?
Nether was Hitler
They both gave up ... ALL THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS
NoIs Dylan Roof a human?
Actually, Moon, it isn't.Then the act of murder is repeated . That's no solution. Murder by government decree is still murder- cold-blooded murder. That's sick.
The death penalty is not a deterrent,
Let's talk about those who were put to death and later found innocent
By definition an *accident*
That's true if you believe that there is a 'legal ' taking of human life- a belief to which I do not subscribe.Actually, Moon, it isn't.
Murder is the illegal taking of a human life.
If the death is "by government decree"...it is not illegal...and not murder.
Charles Manson seemed to enjoy life in prison got married loved painting etcAnyone who supposes that life in prison without the chance of parole (the most frequently used alternative to capital punishment) is less gruesome or brutal or disgusting...has to think about that a bit longer.
There is no punishment I can think of that is excessively cruel than life in prison without the chance of parole. It is MUCH more humane to execute the individual.
So you think what Charles Manson feels is the standard we should use?Charles Manson seemed to enjoy life in prison got married loved painting etc
He looks in total agony
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Anyone who supposes that life in prison without the chance of parole (the most frequently used alternative to capital punishment) is less gruesome or brutal or disgusting...has to think about that a bit longer.
There is no punishment I can think of that is excessively cruel than life in prison without the chance of parole. It is MUCH more humane to execute the individual.
My position is more nuanced than that. Commit a murder, go to prison. Commit a second afterwards, go to Hell (be killed). Commit a violent crime, go to prison. Continue to commit violent crimes, go to Hell.That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I think the death penalty is morally wrong. People are going to come back with "murder is morally wrong also" and that's true, but we'd be talking apples and oranges. A murderer should be punished but I have a problem with an individual deciding that the murderer should be put to death., instead of given life w/o parole.
Then punish her for doing that.With POS like this in charge of in the Judicial System
Fact check: Did Kamala Harris block evidence that would have freed inmates?
At least you're consistent. I can appreciate that, even if I disagree.I already said over and over I'm against the death penalty, so that also applies to Roof. Why single him out?
I reduced your ..er....contribution. The rest of it was just you attempting to convince others that you are not just a blood-lusting psychopath.Kill the mutherfucker.
You are an idiot. That is taken completely out of context, something the Left loves to do because they can't argue the concept any other way.I reduced your ..er....contribution. The rest of it was just you attempting to convince others that you are not just a blood-lusting psychopath.
I don't agree it's a given that many lifers will kill guards or inmates. For guards, I looked for current stats but only found this one from 2013. Feel free to correct the math but it looks like 36 guards killed in a prison system with more than 2 million inmates.My position is more nuanced than that. Commit a murder, go to prison. Commit a second afterwards, go to Hell (be killed). Commit a violent crime, go to prison. Continue to commit violent crimes, go to Hell.
The death penalty should exist as a deterrent to those who choose to be career criminals. When you commit crimes on a continuing basis and deterrents like fines, jail time, and the like have had no effect, it's time we off you so you don't continue to be a huge negative burden on society.
Your version says you are fine with someone who has committed murder, then commits more murder after being punished, then goes to prison and murders another inmate or a guard in prison. I say, enough is enough. At some point we shouldn't tolerate your violence any longer. Kill the mutherfucker.
Remind me how many hostages did the Hamas terrorist just execute?Five executions in six days. These primitives are not fit to govern a small toilet, let alone a state.
Six days of horror: America’s thirst for executions returns with a vengeance
Five executions, five states: a glut of judicial killing not seen in 20 years took place last week – and there was nothing random about itwww.theguardian.com
Manson spent over 75% of his life in prisons. That's what he was accustomed to. He wasn't someone who was a success at life outside.Charles Manson seemed to enjoy life in prison got married loved painting etc
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Manson spent over 75% of his life in prisonsManson spent over 75% of his life in prisons. That's what he was accustomed to. He wasn't someone who was a success at life outside.
So, the death of 113, or 36, people at the hands of prisoners in prisons is an acceptable loss compared to the loss of say an equal number of murderers, rapists, or repeat violent career criminals being put to death for you hum? 113, 36, whatever the number of people who committed no crime should have to die because you are unwilling to kill those that murder, rape, or repeatedly commit violent crimes?I don't agree it's a given that many lifers will kill guards or inmates. For guards, I looked for current stats but only found this one from 2013. Feel free to correct the math but it looks like 36 guards killed in a prison system with more than 2 million inmates.
113 x .8 = 90.4 violent acts 90.4 x .62 = 56.05 homicides 56.05 x .65 = 36.4 guards killed by inmates.
- There were 113 correctional officer fatalities reported — the fatality rate was 2.7 per 100,000 FTEs (CI = ± 0.8);
- Assaults, violent acts and transportation-related fatalities accounted for 80 percent of all fatalities;
- Among fatal assaults and violent acts, 62 percent were due to homicides and 38 percent were due to suicides by self-inflicted gunshot wounds; and
- Of the homicides, 65 percent were committed by inmates and the remaining were committed by coworkers, strangers or personal relations of the correctional officer.
Then you're saying that it's okay for the state to kill a murdering prisoner but not for another prisoner to do it when the end result's the same.
A lot of death penalty advocates use the monetary argument to justify killing, i.e. it's cheaper to kill the guy than to lock him up for life. None of the above positions make sense to me. They are all "eye for an eye." I'm not trying to change anybody's mind, I'm just giving my reasons for not supporting capital punishment. And again, I believe the reason is that it's immoral.
It isn't murder it is legal killing. So do you think your preferred country killing its enemies is sick?Then the act of murder is repeated . That's no solution. Murder by government decree is still murder- cold-blooded murder. That's sick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenne...ff was one of 20,to have begun killing again.Sure it is. You can't commit more crimes if you are dead... except maybe voting Democrat...
What do you do in this scenario? Someone murders another and is sent to prison for life without parole. While in prison they murder someone. What's a fitting punishment for that? What if they were put to death instead of sent to prison?
There's Thomas Silverstein...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McDuff#:~:text=McDuff was one of 20,to have begun killing again.
Kenneth McDuff in Texas was in jail for murder he was released and ultimately killed many more people.