Into the Night
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Trolling. You are done.
Mental Illness is not to blame for gun violence
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Trolling. You are done.
How is it a cliche fallacy, explain yourself.
In fact, explain all of these fallacies...I don't think you can.
I think you'll invent some bullshit fallacy for this post so you don't have to be held to account for yours.
Really, so the NRA and gun nuts don’t support extending background checks? Or that the shooter in Georgia bought the weapon he used that very day?
Into the Night
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They infringe on an individual's right inherent right to defend himself, giving a government the ability to give permission to exercise that right.
We have high crime rates WITH fully funded cops.
Crime doesn't increase or decrease because of police, it increases and decreases because of the economy.
In poorer economic times, crime will rise...but when the economy is doing well, crime declines.
So if you really want to reduce crime, then fucking pay people more money so they aren't desperate enough to commit a crime.
Cops do not really prevent crime.
What they do is punish the people who commit crimes AFTER THE FACT.
Where in the Second Amendment does it say an individual has a “inherent right to defend himself?”
You haven't saved a single person yet, and you're going to shoot your eye out.
Into the Night
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The NRA isn't the government nor the Constitution of the United States nor any inherent right. It matters not what they support.
There is nothing wrong with buying and shooting a gun on the same day of purchase. There is plenty that is wrong with conducting background checks.
No, you're a liar.
So mild that 500K died from it in a year.
30M have been tested positive for COVID. That is about 10% of the population, and several of your "very fine people" on JPP have said they've already been infected.
You're a liar who was completely wrong about everything last year.
Try to follow the thread.
How is it not?
How so?
When I read those amendments, I come to a completely different conclusion than you do.
So now it comes down to a quesiton of credibility.
Do you have credibility when it comes to the conclusions you reach about the 2A and 4A? Well, let's see...
You have multiple socks on JPP that you link to in your own signatures.
You spread lies about COVID
You predicted Trump would win, and when he didn't, accused the system of being fraudulent.
So...what credibility do you have that establishes your interpretation of the 2A and 4A as the objective standard when you're not even honest about the IDs you use on JPP?
How would a fake ID beat a background check?
Do you know what goes into a background check? Without using Google, tell me right now what you think a background check entails.
Well, you and the guy I was responding to should probably check notes.
Are we having difficulties processing?
Ah, the NRA is the driving force behind blanket opposition to any kind of gun legislation to include extending background checks, and they are also a leading proponent of the argument that mental health is the leading cause of gun violence. The oppose vehemently the very instrument that would aid considerably preventing weapons from falling into the hands of one mental ill. Last week in Georgia illustrated the hypocrisy
OK, follow the thread Sparky because every single thing I referenced in my post were the reasons SmarterThanYou gave for his guns in his post.
So you've just given up now because you have no argument to make, but you need to have your pathetic voice heard.
Into the Night
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The right does not come from a piece of paper.
You have the inherent right to defend yourself and your interests, simply because you are living breathing thing. Every animal has that right to defend itself and it's interests with every means it chooses.
The 2nd amendment:
This amendment discusses two rights, both inherent, and both related.
The right of a State to defend itself, simply because it is a State. States organize militias (armies) for this purpose. These troops are led by the governor of that State and are formed from the people of that State.
The federal government also has this right. It has formed a national militia as a result (the National Guard).
The right of an individual to defend themselves and their interests. They have that inherent right as a law of nature, not because of the 2nd amendment. The 2nd amendment is a directive to the federal government and to the States: HANDS OFF
This amendment specifically prohibits the federal government (and the States as well) from infringing on any of these rights of self defense. The States agreed to this when they joined the Union.
In any nation, no matter how oppressive, the right to self defense is still there. It cannot be taken away by any government. It is indeed justifiable to defend yourself and your interests from such oppression, and to use every means to do so.